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So 5 of the next 6 games, all at home:

Penguins
Hurricanes
Jets
Leafs
and
Oilers

Not only losing these 5, but looking bad doing it, and I don't know what is going to happen.
 
Dr Jan Itor said:
So 5 of the next 6 games, all at home:

Penguins
Hurricanes
Jets
Leafs
and
Oilers

Not only losing these 5, but looking bad doing it, and I don't know what is going to happen.
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We'll probably just blame it on Fleury being injured and not change anything
 
Some interesting changes by the coach today, I guess this will be popular around here.

Boldy removed from the 1st PP unit, Gaudreau in. Rossi to the 4th line.



 
Nothing is going to change if all you're doing is rotating the same 10 guys that can't score with each other into different iterations.

I feel bad for Boldy. Second most skilled player we have and he gets to play with a rotating cast of bottom sixers.

Guerin setting Evason up for failure, Evason setting the team up for failure.
 
Boldy hasn't produced much lately, so I can understand Evason. Boldy still has a lot to learn. He should join Zuccarello and Kaprizov on the ice after practice, let the experienced guys teach him.
 
Dr Jan Itor said:
So 5 of the next 6 games, all at home:

Penguins
Hurricanes
Jets
Leafs
and
Oilers

Not only losing these 5, but looking bad doing it, and I don't know what is going to happen.
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I mean what can we do other than just keep shuffling and hope something changes? We’re not going to trade to bring in guys if we’re already that far behind the 8-ball. I think maybe you write it off as a lost season and trade UFAs Gaudreau and Dumba.
 
Webster said:
Boldy hasn't produced much lately, so I can understand Evason. Boldy still has a lot to learn. He should join Zuccarello and Kaprizov on the ice after practice, let the experienced guys teach him.
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Boldy hasn't been given anyone to work with either, yet still has 11pts, only 5pts off Zucc's passenger points.
 
Wonder when the fleury injury status is coming or to be accurate, like when they tell us how long he'll be out this time? He is such a good goalie...
 
So Fleury is on injury reserve now. Anyone have a clue as to when or how he got hurt? Our goaltending was one of the few things actually working for cripes sakes! Son of a B!

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Dr Jan Itor said:
So 5 of the next 6 games, all at home:

Penguins
Hurricanes
Jets
Leafs
and
Oilers

Not only losing these 5, but looking bad doing it, and I don't know what is going to happen.
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Heat will certainly increase on Dean.

I thought Boldy made quite a few uncharacteristic errors out there last night, both on and off the PP. I was hoping that Rossi would be a guy who he can pair with in place of Fiala, but that isn't working out very well to date, as Rossi was one of the others who had a bad game last night. He's still very young, but there's no time like the present for him to start showing some improvement. So far, there's no there, there.
 
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Question from someone who never played and found hockey in his late 40s, so basically a casual fan. I’ve been following the Wild going back to Mike Yeo and Fletcher. Those guys are gone, significant players are gone, Fenton came and went, and it is still some of the same stuff happening like struggles with the power play etc. My question is this, how does Darby Hendrickson and Bob Woods keep their jobs through all of this change? Usually in other sports when a coaching change is made, they bring in different assistants? If Hendrickson was that good, after 12 years, wouldn’t he be a head coach somewhere? Could that be part of the problem? Not looking to get flamed for this, but am genuinely curious. The assistants must have a lot to say?
 
Roman Maroni said:
Question from someone who never played and found hockey in his late 40s, so basically a casual fan. I’ve been following the Wild going back to Mike Yeo and Fletcher. Those guys are gone, significant players are gone, Fenton came and went, and it is still some of the same stuff happening like struggles with the power play etc. My question is this, how does Darby Hendrickson and Bob Woods keep their jobs through all of this change? Usually in other sports when a coaching change is made, they bring in different assistants? If Hendrickson was that good, after 12 years, wouldn’t he be a head coach somewhere? Could that be part of the problem? Not looking to get flamed for this, but am genuinely curious. The assistants must have a lot to say?
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The turnover in coaching staff isn't that large when there is a new head coach. Like in the NFL a new head coach might bring in a new O, D, and special team coordinator; but the positional (RB, QB, LB, etc.) coaches will (mostly) stay the same. For the NHL the new head coach (offseason hire) might bring a bench coach with him, but it's not a whole entourage that follow them from place to place.

To put it in a (basic) business setting terms:
CEO = GM
Upper management = Head coach and Associate coach
Middle management = position coaches
9-5 workers = players.

When there is turnover at the top (GM/head coach) or bottom (players) the middle management pretty much stays the same.

Darby might just prefer the stability of staying where he is instead of moving every couple of years chasing the brass ring of head coaching jobs. MN keeps paying him (I'm guessing fairly) to do his thing. He (probably) likes his job. He (probably) likes where he lives. So there isn't a need for him to do anything except show up, punch his timecard, and do his job.

I don't think he's good at his job. But in fairness I only see a very small portion (6 mins of PP time a game) of what he actually does for his job. It's also on the players on the ice to execute. The PP has the same setup but has a completely different flow just by changing from Spurgeon to Addison on the point.
 
Wabit said:
The turnover in coaching staff isn't that large when there is a new head coach. Like in the NFL a new head coach might bring in a new O, D, and special team coordinator; but the positional (RB, QB, LB, etc.) coaches will (mostly) stay the same. For the NHL the new head coach (offseason hire) might bring a bench coach with him, but it's not a whole entourage that follow them from place to place.

To put it in a (basic) business setting terms:
CEO = GM
Upper management = Head coach and Associate coach
Middle management = position coaches
9-5 workers = players.

When there is turnover at the top (GM/head coach) or bottom (players) the middle management pretty much stays the same.

Darby might just prefer the stability of staying where he is instead of moving every couple of years chasing the brass ring of head coaching jobs. MN keeps paying him (I'm guessing fairly) to do his thing. He (probably) likes his job. He (probably) likes where he lives. So there isn't a need for him to do anything except show up, punch his timecard, and do his job.

I don't think he's good at his job. But in fairness I only see a very small portion (6 mins of PP time a game) of what he actually does for his job. It's also on the players on the ice to execute. The PP has the same setup but has a completely different flow just by changing from Spurgeon to Addison on the point.
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This is a great analogy. Do we put it in the positivity thread? lol
 
TaLoN said:
Boldy hasn't been given anyone to work with either, yet still has 11pts, only 5pts off Zucc's passenger points.
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Boldy played with our best players on the PP, but he got demoted.

Anyway, I don't pay attention to stuff like this anymore, and I advise @Idlerlee to do the same. Zuccarello is on pace for 82 points, and he leads the team in assists. He's of great value to the team and contributes more than his salary would suggest. Off the ice as well, for example Evason said he had no idea what a great leader Zuccarello is. So he's just fine.
 
Webster said:
Boldy played with our best players on the PP, but he got demoted.

Anyway, I don't pay attention to stuff like this anymore, and I advise @Idlerlee to do the same. Zuccarello is on pace for 82 points, and he leads the team in assists. He's of great value to the team and contributes more than his salary would suggest. Off the ice as well, for example Evason said he had no idea what a great leader Zuccarello is. So he's just fine.
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Who does he play with 5v5?
Boldy is a better overall player than Zucc... and Zucc is not playing well at all anymore. Zucc is showing his age right now.
 
Roman Maroni said:
Question from someone who never played and found hockey in his late 40s, so basically a casual fan. I’ve been following the Wild going back to Mike Yeo and Fletcher. Those guys are gone, significant players are gone, Fenton came and went, and it is still some of the same stuff happening like struggles with the power play etc. My question is this, how does Darby Hendrickson and Bob Woods keep their jobs through all of this change? Usually in other sports when a coaching change is made, they bring in different assistants? If Hendrickson was that good, after 12 years, wouldn’t he be a head coach somewhere? Could that be part of the problem? Not looking to get flamed for this, but am genuinely curious. The assistants must have a lot to say?
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Hendrickson is a local guy, and more of a cheerleading, pick up and feed the pucks to players in practice type guy. He knows where all the bodies are buried in town, which can be useful to a new coaching staff coming in. As long as he isn't a character problem, you can always use a guy like that. To help run a practice, and bench, sometimes you just need guys, not hockey geniuses...no offense to Darby. If i had to guess, he is not doing a lot of X and O's, and will be more of a helping hand rather than a designer of the practices and skill work.

As i like to say, he's the guy who lets everyone know where the bathrooms are.
 
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Webster said:
Boldy played with our best players on the PP, but he got demoted.

Anyway, I don't pay attention to stuff like this anymore, and I advise @Idlerlee to do the same. Zuccarello is on pace for 82 points, and he leads the team in assists. He's of great value to the team and contributes more than his salary would suggest. Off the ice as well, for example Evason said he had no idea what a great leader Zuccarello is. So he's just fine.
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I still like him. Just not a fan of the implication that the franchise is beholden to him.
 
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TaLoN said:
Who does he play with 5v5?
Boldy is a better overall player than Zucc... and Zucc is not playing well at all anymore. Zucc is showing his age right now.
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I agreed with you on Zucc right now. But I don't think Deano playing him 21-22 minutes per game, help him or the team in any way.
 
fredrikstad said:
I agreed with you on Zucc right now. But I don't think Deano playing him 21-22 minutes per game, help him or the team in any way.
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Then maybe it's time for him to move down the lineup
 
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