OT: MIchigan Sports Thread: UM wins Natty Championship

jaster

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But if the Tigers "become the Lions", baseball wouldn't be bad at all: Even a 3 win-season sparked enough interest (coupled with "Hard Knocks"-coverage at an ideal moment), which has been intensified after the late 8-2 streak. The Lions practically evolved into a "hot ticket" within two years.

Moreover, the "Chris Illitch does not spend any money"‐narrative is simply not true; it is particularly surprising to find the fairytale in the Red Wings subforum of all virtual places. The Tigers did not spend any money this year, which I find disappointing as well, but players like Baez, Ed. Rodriguez, Pineda and Barnhart weren't cheap last year - they just didn't help the Tigers much. Unfortunately, the exact same thing is true for the Verlander trade. Illitch won't have any reason not to sign off a notable payroll next year, so I will give him that time.

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The Baez debacle proved, at least at that time, that Ilitch was not willing to spend what is necessary to build a winner. He had a chance, an opportunity that fell right in his lap, and he passed. He put an internal cap on spending which has resulted in the Tigers overspending on mediocre players, and having one of the worst contracts in baseball. Just because the Tigers aren't last in payroll doesn't mean that Ilitch is willing to truly spend. Like others have pointed out, he's saved big bucks by having some kind of internal cap and intentionally not going after top guys, even ones that reportedly wanted to come here. Maybe that will change in the future, but it's been rough to watch to-date.

And when I said the Tigers would become the Lions, I was talking more about the history of the Lions, in my lifetime at least, more than just the status of the Lions today (which is better, but to be clear the Lions still haven't won a damn thing).
 

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The Baez debacle proved, at least at that time, that Ilitch was not willing to spend what is necessary to build a winner. He had a chance, an opportunity that fell right in his lap, and he passed. He put an internal cap on spending which has resulted in the Tigers overspending on mediocre players, and having one of the worst contracts in baseball. Just because the Tigers aren't last in payroll doesn't mean that Ilitch is willing to truly spend. Like others have pointed out, he's saved big bucks by having some kind of internal cap and intentionally not going after top guys, even ones that reportedly wanted to come here. Maybe that will change in the future, but it's been rough to watch to-date.

And when I said the Tigers would become the Lions, I was talking more about the history of the Lions, in my lifetime at least, more than just the status of the Lions today (which is better, but to be clear the Lions still haven't won a damn thing).
I think it's more accurate to say the Tigers have become the Minnesota Twins...minus the Twins drafting acumen.
 

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And that's season is over. Michgans goalie really lost that game with three soft goals.
 
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It is always nice to see U-M wind up as a bridesmaid again in another sport.
 

jaster

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Eric Portillo is a very frustrating goalie
Is he ever. I won't miss him one bit. I said to my wife, mid-season, that whenever Michigan's season comes to an end it will be due to Portillo. He's a back-breaking goalie. Has talent, no question, can make some huge stops on initial shots. Once there is a rebound, or the attacking team just maintains possession? All bets are off. He gets out of position quick and is just swimming all over the place. Quinnipiac banked two pucks off of him and into the net because he was out of position, and damn near got a third, and then he let in a laughable goal that a beer league goalie routinely stops, and that.... was just the perfect encapsulation of Erik Portillo. Most frustrating starting goalie I've seen in Ann Arbor in my 30 years of watching Michigan hockey (my memories go back to Steve Shields).

Quinnipiac-Minnesota shapes up to be a pretty good game. The speed and talent of Minnesota vs the defense and structure of Quinnipiac.
 

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Is he ever. I won't miss him one bit. I said to my wife, mid-season, that whenever Michigan's season comes to an end it will be due to Portillo. He's a back-breaking goalie. Has talent, no question, can make some huge stops on initial shots. Once there is a rebound, or the attacking team just maintains possession? All bets are off. He gets out of position quick and is just swimming all over the place. Quinnipiac banked two pucks off of him and into the net because he was out of position, and damn near got a third, and then he let in a laughable goal that a beer league goalie routinely stops, and that.... was just the perfect encapsulation of Erik Portillo. Most frustrating starting goalie I've seen in Ann Arbor in my 30 years of watching Michigan hockey (my memories go back to Steve Shields).

Quinnipiac-Minnesota shapes up to be a pretty good game. The speed and talent of Minnesota vs the defense and structure of Quinnipiac.
I'm not surprised Portillo turned back into a pumpkin. He's looked good the previous few games but he has not had that "it" factor at all this year. Along with you, I think you can add Buffalo fans to the list of people that won't miss him (especially with Devon Levi coming up).

The best 2 teams made it. Quinnipiac has been in a league of their own this year with consistent play. The title game could be a classic.
 

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Why are the Lions offering a huge contract to Bridgewater? If we are going for a QB, I'd rather go for Lamar.
 
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Is this the nadir of the last Tigers decades? The MLB team is in shambles: The roster offers very little talent and already scares fans from coming to Comerica Park. I thought the starting pitching would become the backbone of a Tigers resurrection to relevance, but almost every pitcher struggles right now (except for their rule 5 pick and hopefully Manning).

The worst contract of the league will finally end, but the next highest contract among the Tigers roster figures to be horrible as well. I have a hard time finding any veteran player with trade value. Unfortunately, the prospect group looks average at best. The Tigers picked the worst possible situation to find themselves without a TV deal after Bally Sports' bankruptcy.

Avila has left a sunken ship. Although he only made a few non-defensible decisions (like trading JD Martinez early for a lousy return and drafting Jobe over Mayer/Lawlar), almost all his defensible decisions backfired: The top prospect acquired for Verlander was always injured, the consensus #1 players from the 2018 and 2020 draft seem to have only a fraction of the value the 2019 #1 pick has, trading Paredes for A. Meadows has turned into as much of a disaster as the top three FA signings (Zimmermann, Baez and Rodriguez) have or likely will. It may be unfair, but at some point, results matter - and I do not like the results for the Tigers at all.

Gruß,
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Why are the Lines ne offering a huge contract to Bridgewater? If we are going for a QB, I'd rather go for Lamar.
I don't think any rumors of numbers have come out yet, but a "huge" contract offer to Teddy is surely a small fraction of the contract Lamar is looking for, and doesn't also include multiple first round picks.
 

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Is this the nadir of the last Tigers decades? The MLB team is in shambles: The roster offers very little talent and already scares fans from coming to Comerica Park. I thought the starting pitching would become the backbone of a Tigers resurrection to relevance, but almost every pitcher struggles right now (except for their rule 5 pick and hopefully Manning).

The worst contract of the league will finally end, but the next highest contract among the Tigers roster figures to be horrible as well. I have a hard time finding any veteran player with trade value. Unfortunately, the prospect group looks average at best. The Tigers picked the worst possible situation to find themselves without a TV deal after Bally Sports' bankruptcy.

Avila has left a sunken ship. Although he only made a few non-defensible decisions (like trading JD Martinez early for a lousy return and drafting Jobe over Mayer/Lawlar), almost all his defensible decisions backfired: The top prospect acquired for Verlander was always injured, the consensus #1 players from the 2018 and 2020 draft seem to have only a fraction of the value the 2019 #1 pick has, trading Paredes for A. Meadows has turned into as much of a disaster as the top three FA signings (Zimmermann, Baez and Rodriguez) have or likely will. It may be unfair, but at some point, results matter - and I do not like the results for the Tigers at all.

Gruß,
BSHH

No. No it's not. Look back at the Tigers history from like 1993-2004.

That team that lost 119 games in 2003 was hideous.
 

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