OT: MIchigan Sports Thread: UM wins Natty Championship

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newfy

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This is the current mock draft, no idea why the Jags would do this:
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I don't understand it either but Walker is the favorite to go first now. Whatever, I would be very happy with Hutch and I have to think he's someone the Lions wouldn't pass on if the Jags do.

It obviously has a lot to do with his combine, but I also think his combine really made teams go back and review the tape on him. He rarely actually rushed the passer, and has multiple position versatility.

With that being said, if he goes first, it really seems like theyre trying to be the smartest in the room and wouldnt be surprised if it blows up. The Jags are a team that is seriously mismanaged. I actually have a sneaky feeling theyre gonna take Icky first.

They probably share my opinion that Hutchinson is a good to very good NFL player, but does not have the ceiling of other prospects, even in a relatively weak year for a top 5 pick.

But the Lions will take him, and they'll throw a parade over how happy they are to draft him, and he will be a B+ guy for the next decade...

...while teams after them find and develop guys that become All Pros and perennial Pro Bowlers. It's the Lions Way.

I dont understand this logic. Hutchinson has everything to be a pro bowler with a fairly high floor. Hes more athletic than Thibodeaux with more production against better players. Hes also on a really steep development curve whereas Thibodeaux seems to have levelled out.

If Hutchinson wasnt a big, white guy I really doubt anyone would question his upside or athleticism considering he just had something like the 13th highest RAS score ever for a d end out of 1000+ players at the combine. Elite production at a football factory school in a really strong conference never gets this kind of disrespect come draft time
 
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It obviously has a lot to do with his combine, but I also think his combine really made teams go back and review the tape on him. He rarely actually rushed the passer, and has multiple position versatility.

With that being said, if he goes first, it really seems like theyre trying to be the smartest in the room and wouldnt be surprised if it blows up. The Jags are a team that is seriously mismanaged. I actually have a sneaky feeling theyre gonna take Icky first.



I dont understand this logic. Hutchinson has everything to be a pro bowler with a fairly high floor. Hes more athletic than Thibodeaux with more production against better players. Hes also on a really steep development curve whereas Thibodeaux seems to have levelled out.

If Hutchinson wasnt a big, white guy I really doubt anyone would question his upside or athleticism considering he just had something like the 13th highest RAS score ever for a d end out of 1000+ players at the combine. Elite production at a football factory school in a really strong conference never gets this kind of disrespect come draft time
To begin, I tend to care very little for combine stats. Anybody can have a superb or awful weekend; just ask the Raiders after all the times they chased a wide out with the best 40 time.

And read through the finer details in the reviews. The trend seems to be, "high floor, great motor, but some questions about athleticism and ceiling".






Again, it's not that he isn't a good player. But is he a surefire game changer at the next level to select at #1 or #2 overall? I have my doubts.
 

newfy

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To begin, I tend to care very little for combine stats. Anybody can have a superb or awful weekend; just ask the Raiders after all the times they chased a wide out with the best 40 time.

And read through the finer details in the reviews. The trend seems to be, "high floor, great motor, but some questions about athleticism and ceiling".






Again, it's not that he isn't a good player. But is he a surefire game changer at the next level to select at #1 or #2 overall? I have my doubts.

I hear what youre saying. My point is that questions about athleticism just seem like BS to me. He mopped Thibodeaux's ras score and wouldve had the highest in the draft last year. Like I said, if hes not a big, white dude no one brings that up at all.

With that being said, I'm not saying hes Myles Garret or anything. You cant compare number one in one draft to other drafts and maybe in a typical year he doesn go this high obviously. But in this years draft, the questions about him seem BS. In this draft he seems like a no brainer to me. I wish there was a Joe Burrows available but you can only draft whose available. I dont see anyone in this draft worth taking over Hutchinson

High level production as soon as he was moved to full time edge this season, game tape against a bunch of really good linemen (Including dominating Wirfs pretty good 2 or 3 years ago), an absolutely freakish ras score at the combine, really high motor and leadership. What else can you ask for?

Sewell would go first overall in this draft so if pretending to switch their drafts will help you accept it then maybe do that lol. Hutchinson at 7 last year and Sewell 2 this year and everyone is ecstatic
 

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I'm excited for the potential this offense has. Looks to be very well-rounded.
Defense still needs a ton of work. Hopefully they can still find some useful guys here
 

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