Proposal: Mcdavid to Toronto

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Hockey 4 Life

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From the leafs the most they could offer while still remaining competitive would be this.

Marner/ Nylander
Liljegren/ Sandin
Knies
Niemela
Amirov/ Robertson
2022 1st
2023 1st.

I believe that's the best offer the leafs could table and I have my doubts that it would be enough.
 

A1LeafNation

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You haven't really provided one either. You just keep saying a deal around Marner for McDavid.

Which is a shitty base, but what's the rest of your actual offer?

Waiting for another shitty based offer that is better than a young 90 point player.
 

GOilers88

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Waiting for another shitty based offer that is better than a young 90 point player.
You still haven't put a real proposal together. Just that a McDavid/Marner swap is a good idea. It's not, at least if you're Edmonton. I'd much rather see Nylander in place of Marner, but you need to add a lot to that.
 

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In order for the Oilers to even TALK to the TML about Mcdavid, this would be the starting offer:

Austin Matthews
Morgan Rielly
Nick Robertson
2023 1st round pick

We're discussing a top 5 player of ALL TIME here.
 

A1LeafNation

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You still haven't put a real proposal together. Just that a McDavid/Marner swap is a good idea. It's not, at least if you're Edmonton.

I do think Marner is a competitive base.

I'd do something like Marner + Robertson + Sandin + 1st ...and wait for a team to make a better offer...which is possible.
 

A1LeafNation

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In order for the Oilers to even TALK to the TML about Mcdavid, this would be the starting offer:

Austin Matthews
Morgan Rielly
Nick Robertson
2023 1st round pick

We're discussing a top 5 player of ALL TIME here.

Swap Matthews and Rielly for Marner and Sandin and wait for a team to offer better.
 

sens13

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Mcdavid has a full NMC at the end of the year. He and Matthews have the same agent group and they are friends. It wouldn’t go like that


Mcdavid may want to stay. He may ask out to go to NYR or Columbus. Who knows.

but he has total control
Lol then the Oilers will trade him before his nmc.

Why do you think they will wait until nmc kick in?

Please give us your amazing reasoning.
 

Aashir Mallik

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You think leafs wouldn't trade matthews for mcdavid? Straight up?

My god you leaf fans are so delusional.
No most think Matthews for mcdavid doesn’t get it done. We’d have to add an add maybe something signifant and I personally don’t believe it would be a net positive

it would cost like
Matthews + Nylander

or
Matthews + Rielly

for

Mcdavid + Something back from same position ie Kassian or Something


We lose our 1D or a 1W and a 1C for another 1C who’s better but makes our lineup even more top heavy
 
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GOilers88

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I do think Marner is a competitive base.

I'd do something like Marner + Robertson + Sandin + 1st ...and wait for a team to make a better offer...which is possible.
Yeah I don't see how this is any good for Edmonton. I think they could do better without having to take on another 10+ million dollar contract for a player who has his own playoff issues and plays the same soft game they currently suffer from.
 

A1LeafNation

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Wouldn’t get it done.

Yeah I don't see how this is any good for Edmonton. I think they could do better without having to take on another 10+ million dollar contract for a player who has his own playoff issues and plays the same soft game they currently suffer from.

That's fine, if the Leafs miss out, it is what it is, but I don't think Leafs should offer more than this.

I also don't think teams will offer much better....but who knows.
 

sens13

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Best part about this is that this whole idea came from an awesome mod!

He thought marner/1st/sandin was more than a fair package.

Does Hf not check the bias of mods or can anyone just be one?
 
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ML19

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Swap Matthews and Rielly for Marner and Sandin and wait for a team to offer better.

If there isn't a better offer, the Oilers just say no. They don't even consider making that trade for more than 3 minutes. There's no comparison between Marner & Mcdavid.
Marner in 383 games has scored 383 points 1.00 ppg (111 goals)
McDavid in 442 games has scored 627 points 1.41 ppg (214 goals)

Sandin, Robertson, & a 1st don't add any real value
 
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Legion34

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Lol then the Oilers will trade him before his nmc.

Why do you think they will wait until nmc kick in?

Please give us your amazing reasoning.

because then he demands out again? IFFFFF the player wants to be traded. You work something out with the team he wants to go to. This happens all the time.

1.) Mcdavid isn’t being traded unless he asks out with 4 years left That’s career suicide and the ownership wouldn’t allow it.
2.) a team isn’t trading for a player who has full control without knowing he wants to be there.

makes no sense. It doesn’t happen.

lets just say Buffalo trades power and 2 firsts for Mcdavid. He goes there and says I want to go to Toronto (because this is a TO thread. We can use Columbus if you prefer)

Now you have to hope you get better value than power and 2 first from Toronto.

you don’t trade for a guy walking into a NMC without knowing he wants it.
 

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A trade won’t be required. In 4 years McDavid is a UFA.
 

sens13

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because then he demands out again? IFFFFF the player wants to be traded. You work something out with the team he wants to go to. This happens all the time.

1.) Mcdavid isn’t being traded unless he asks out with 4 years left That’s career suicide and the ownership wouldn’t allow it.
2.) a team isn’t trading for a player who has full control without knowing he wants to be there.

makes no sense. It doesn’t happen.

lets just say Buffalo trades power and 2 firsts for Mcdavid. He goes there and says I want to go to Toronto (because this is a TO thread. We can use Columbus if you prefer)

Now you have to hope you get better value than power and 2 first from Toronto.

you don’t trade for a guy walking into a NMC without knowing he wants it
Pretty wishful thinking from you.

I have a question.

Why would McDavid want to go to the leafs when they haven’t even won a round in 20 years?

I get the home factor but wouldn’t he want to to go a real contender?

it looks like there going to play tb or panthers this year and I don’t think you’d have many non leaf fans say that they would win that series.
 

GoLeafsGo96

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The Oilers wouldn't want Matthews - I really don't understand why people aren't getting this. No - that doesn't mean they would want Marner. Both guys would walk at the end of their deals and trading McDavid means the Oilers are straight rebuilding. They could take Marner/Matthews to flip, but why bother? Just trade McDavid for futures.

They would want the largest package of 1sts/former firsts prospects in history.
 

ML19

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This is essentially me saying

Barzal
Mayfield
Aatu Raty
2023 first

for Mcdavid

It's an embarrassing offer.
 

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Matthews for RNH and 2 1sts....
get real

You think leafs wouldn't trade matthews for mcdavid? Straight up?

My god you leaf fans are so delusional.
there is no point, we are trying to add to the team not break even
McDavid, Hyman and Kassian for
Mathews, Nylander, Kerfoot

McDavid>Mathews
Nylander>Hyman
Kerfoot>Kassian
$$$ are close
Leafs get tougher to play against Oilers get more balanced scoring!
yuck

You high sir?

It would have to include AM34. No matter which way you slice it
no to moving Auston+++ for McDavid

No its not. No way

Pure greed. It would take AM34 in a package imo
no no interest

Matthews for Puujavri, Koskinen, 1st Round Pick 2022, 1st Round Pick 2023, and Raphael Lavoie.
Oilers don't have a player in the Marner tier for a counter to make sense
unless its Matthews for Drai which I would not do as a Leafs fan.

In order for the Oilers to even TALK to the TML about Mcdavid, this would be the starting offer:

Austin Matthews
Morgan Rielly
Nick Robertson
2023 1st round pick

We're discussing a top 5 player of ALL TIME here.
I just puked in my mouth

Man I literally have ZERO interest in trading for Mcdavid
in 26-27 I expect him to come to Toronto as a UFA
Marner and Auston will resign in 24 and 25
I say keep our assets and wait a few yrs and get him for free
 
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Hitemwith4

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Before every on HF rips on the fans remember this is just the opinion of one or a few fans (this time its leafs, another thread was NYI) and doesnt represent the entire fan base. And dont forget fans dont make trades
 
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