Proposal: Mcdavid to Toronto

[A1LeafNation]

For that package then... Edm hangs up the phone and burns it

Probably needs tweeking but disgruntled McDavid for Marner is a great base for a trade.

 

[wonton15]

The offers in here make it seem like McDavid has Holland at gunpoint and only wants to goto Toronto. They're terrible.

If he was truly available, there would be like 25 teams in the phone queue with stronger offers.

 

[Ciao]

Uhhh.... Even if they were equal which they are not. Mcdavid has a way better contract. Would have to be a significant add from Toronto to get this done.

You think leafs wouldn't trade matthews for mcdavid? Straight up?

My god you leaf fans are so delusional.

Toronto most certainly does

I'm not even getting into whether it's a straight up, for a package, or whatever, because it's just not happening.

All I'm saying is that if McDavid Is going to the Leafs then Matthews is going in the other direction, regardless of what other assets might be involved. Neither team does this.

 

[TopT]

I'm not even getting into whether it's a straight up, for a package, or whatever, because it's just not happening.

All I'm saying is that if McDavid Is going to the Leafs then Matthews is going in the other direction, regardless of what other assets might be involved. Neither team does this.

once again, Toronto most CERTAINLY does, Matthews is not worth even close to McD

 

[sens13]

I'm not even getting into whether it's a straight up, for a package, or whatever, because it's just not happening.

All I'm saying is that if McDavid Is going to the Leafs then Matthews is going in the other direction, regardless of what other assets might be involved. Neither team does this.

The fact you even had to write this cleary shows how much you overrate him.

 

[rocketdan9]

Probably needs tweeking but disgruntled McDavid for Marner is a great base for a trade.

No its not. No way

Pure greed. It would take AM34 in a package imo

 

[Legion34]

The offers in here make it seem like McDavid has Holland at gunpoint and only wants to goto Toronto. They're terrible.

If he was truly available, there would be like 25 teams in the phone queue with stronger offers.

As of July 1 this year he has a full NMC. Mcdavid controls where he goes. If he goes anywhere.

there would not be a bidding war. There would be. I want to be X……

 

[sens13]

Probably needs tweeking but disgruntled McDavid for Marner is a great base for a trade.

LEAFS HOMER ALERT.

You know there's something called potential right? high end prospects?
If you don't even understand that concept maybe you should follow another sport.

If some team would offer multiple high end prospects/picks/roster players why would edm even want marner?

 

[Legion34]

I'm not even getting into whether it's a straight up, for a package, or whatever, because it's just not happening.

All I'm saying is that if McDavid Is going to the Leafs then Matthews is going in the other direction, regardless of what other assets might be involved. Neither team does this.

Mcdavid has a full NMC at the end of the year. He and Matthews have the same agent group and they are friends. It wouldn’t go like that


Mcdavid may want to stay. He may ask out to go to NYR or Columbus. Who knows.

but he has total control

 

[rocketdan9]

As of July 1 this year he has a full NMC. Mcdavid controls where he goes. If he goes anywhere.

there would not be a bidding war. There would be. I want to be X……

Edmonton doesnt have to "honor" his choice of destination. His contract still has a long way to go

 

[Eternal Leaf]

The offers in here make it seem like McDavid has Holland at gunpoint and only wants to goto Toronto. They're terrible.

If he was truly available, there would be like 25 teams in the phone queue with stronger offers.

100% agree.

I think the best time for Mcdavid to ask out is in his second-last season on that contract (2024-25). This is assuming he wants to go to a specific team. He can begin applying pressure on the GM and get what he wants. The reason is, he will have a full NMC by then and he can threaten to walk away for free in a year.

If he just wants out like Eichel did then he could put in a request today.

From Edmonton's perspective, if they made up their mind to rebuild, now would be the best time. The NMC isn't activated yet. They can easily ship him anywhere for a massive haul and essentially handpick the pieces they want.

 

[Natey]

To Leafs: Connor Mcdavid

To Oilers: Mitch Marner
Petr Mrazek
Nick Robertson
1st round pick 2022
1st round pick 2023

Matthews for Puujavri, Koskinen, 1st Round Pick 2022, 1st Round Pick 2023, and Raphael Lavoie.

 

[A1LeafNation]

No its not. No way

Pure greed. It would take AM34 in a package imo

Edmonton can ask, but Leafs probably counter with Marner and wait on a different team to come up with a better package than Marner+

 

[A1LeafNation]

Matthews for Puujavri, Koskinen, 1st Round Pick 2022, 1st Round Pick 2023, and Raphael Lavoie.

McDavid is the disgruntled player who wants out in this trade scenario, not Matthews.

 

[GOilers88]

Probably needs tweeking but disgruntled McDavid for Marner is a great base for a trade.

It's really not, no.

 

[rocketdan9]

IF Leafs get bounced again in the 1st round.

AM34 for McDavid type trade could make sense.... if EDM wants to part ways

Change of scenery for both players.

If McDavid is traded, I also see Drai traded also.

Oilers would look like different/new team

 

[Yackiberg8]

who's the 100 point 23 year old? marner has hit 90 once like 3 years. Calling him perennial 100 point scorer is just showing your bias.

Not to mention if oilers were to trade mcdavid they will be looking for high end prospects.
Not heavily overpaid soft wingers.

Perennial ~95 point player.

 

[Suntouchable13]

Edmonton can ask, but Leafs probably counter with Marner and wait on a different team to come up with a better package than Marner+

You keep forgetting that at 10.9M Marner doesn't carry THAT much value. Why would EDM want an overpaid Marner for a disgruntled McDavid that is at least paid fairly? They can find better offers that include way better players than Marner.

 

[Legion34]

Edmonton doesnt have to "honor" his choice of destination. His contract still has a long way to go

Ya and he goes full Dubois. The idea that they hold the best player in the league hostage makes no sense.

players can easily force themselves to where they want to go now. Eichel didn’t just end up in Columbus. Fox ends up on the rangers. Dubois ends up in Winnipeg where he wanted to be.

laine ends up with his Finnish GM.

Going the whole year with an open trade request is not going to happen


This is all hypothetical. But If he asked out and wanted to go to TO. He would be there. If he stated the year. It wouldn’t last long.

same goes for if he wanted to go to Boston. But this is the Toronto thread.

 

[Natey]

McDavid is the disgruntled player who wants out in this trade scenario, not Matthews.

Doesn't matter. It's still a ridiculous offer.

He's signed for 4-more years. He's not going to stop showing up to work.

 

[Legion34]

You keep forgetting that at 10.9M Marner doesn't carry THAT much value. Why would EDM want an overpaid Marner for a disgruntled McDavid that is at least paid fairly? They can find better offers that include way better players than Marner.

again NMC. It all depends on where he would want to go if he asked out.

 

[Natey]

If this was a few years ago and Toronto still had pieces like Kapanen and Johnsson to ADD to Marner. MAYBE you could use Marner as a base. Maybe.

 

[A1LeafNation]

You keep forgetting that at 10.9M Marner doesn't carry THAT much value. Why would EDM want an overpaid Marner for a disgruntled McDavid that is at least paid fairly? They can find better offers that include way better players than Marner.

I think he does provide value and waiting on an example of a better offer.

No one has provided one yet...they just keep throwing out words with nothing to back it up.

 

[GOilers88]

I think he does provide value and waiting on an example of a better offer.

No one has provided one yet...they just keep throwing out words with nothing to back it up.

You haven't really provided one either. You just keep saying a deal around Marner for McDavid.

Which is a shitty base, but what's the rest of your actual offer? There's almost no salary difference here so it's not like Edmonton even really gains any capspace to start.

 

[rocketdan9]

IF Leafs get bounced again in the 1st round.

AM34 for McDavid type trade could make sense.... if EDM wants to part ways

Change of scenery for both players.

If McDavid is traded, I also see Drai traded also.

Oilers would look like different/new team

Doesnt mean... Edm has to take 50 cents on the dollar type return

Rangers could offer Lafreniere, Zibanejad, Lindgren, Miller, Othmann and three 1sts. Which would easily beat that Leafs offer

Unless AM34 is the main piece