Matt Murray

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Murray reads and tracks the puck better. I have to say the structure of our defense looks good but Murray has made 10 bell saves often in every game.
In 8 games played samsonov has faced 214 shots and in 7 Murray had faced 234
We don't have to make a decision yet of course, a long way to go and lots could change but at this point, I take Murray as well.

The best part about Murray is that he was literally ran out of Ottawa and they actually paid us to take him… LOL
I was thinking today that this looks like it's on it's way to maybe becoming the best trade Dubas has ever made. But is it even correct to call it a trade when they just gave him to us, no they even gave us more assets to take him?

Like taking candy from a baby. :)
 
TBF If this keeps up, I wouldn't be opposed to letting Matt Murray play out his last year here.

With Muzzin LTIRetired and the bottom six seeing an influx of ELC prospects(Knies, steeves) and cheap UFAs (connor brown, andreas johnsson anyone?), I think a 1A and 1B scenario for one more year could be optimum.

It doesn't look like Woll or Petrulezzi are ready, and I'd prefer Kallgren as 3rd stringer, not backup.

If Samsonov got around $4M, I think that would be workable.

Then again, there are some interesting UFA G the Leafs could go after as back-up, like Talbot or Reimer.

Samsonov is younger and at least so far better than Both those guys.

Keep Samsonov
 
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Murray reads and tracks the puck better. I have to say the structure of our defense looks good but Murray has made 10 bell saves often in every game.
In 8 games played samsonov has faced 214 shots and in 7 Murray had faced 234

I disagree I don't think Murray has made 10 saves every, I mean there has been a couple the one at the end of the Minnesota game sticks out.

But he's not doing that every game, he doesn't have to.

Matt Murray has been fantastic but so has the defense
 
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The way Murray is playing, it’s giving the players, coaching staff and fans so much confidence. I don’t think I have been this confident in our goalie when an opposing shot is taken since early 2000s with guys like Cujo and Belfour in net. Hope Murray can keep this up.
 
I disagree I don't think Murray has made 10 saves every, I mean there has been a couple the one at the end of the Minnesota game sticks out.

But he's not doing that every game, he doesn't have to.

Matt Murray has been fantastic but so has the defense
The defensive structure of the team is great, but the blue line is injured bad and Murray has been the difference on several nights.
10 bell saves its a subject of interpretation so I won't argue that with you, you have your opinion on what it is and I have mine.
That said Murray has had to endure more rubber that samsonov this far

Shots Against per 60:
Murray - 33.38
Samsonov - 28.09
High Danger Shots Against per 60:
Murray - 8.74
Samsonov - 8.40
Average Shot Distance:
Murray - 33.25
Samsonov - 35.12
(All game states)
 

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There were Toronto fans that felt at that time of the trade that (whether Murray succeeds or not), Toronto did not extract enough in terms or retention and or picks.

I wonder if they have changed their position?
I haven't, not sure why anyone would.
Happy he's here though, he's been great. Better than anyone would have expected.
 
Like i said since the begginning of the summer

Its hard for a good goalie or even an elite goalie to look good in front an awful team defensive side of the puck... # murray, gibson, demko,

And an okay goalie can look great in front of a pretty good defensive team # nedeljkovic or Campbell

I think its the season than a lot of people will understand how good leafs are become defensivly since 3 year and maybe with a goalie who are able to make a key save when his team need it can make all the differenfe of the world in playoff
 
Regardless of injuries, those can happen to anyone, goalies or players.

Murray and Samsonov give me confidence in net for this team that I haven’t felt in a very long time. As a bonus, we changed our goalie coach that was long overdue just in time.

For me, this team has needed solid goaltending in the playoffs to get over the hump. Having confidence in your tender while playing is a hell of a thing. When we’re constantly chasing, it can and does affect the teams game. Especially when the goalie lets in extremely deflating goals.

I really hope that Murray and Samsonov can step in this playoffs and play their heart out. Murray is a home town boy, and part of me has to think there’s a sense of pride there inside him to have another go at the cup, at home.
 
I haven't, not sure why anyone would.
Happy he's here though, he's been great. Better than anyone would have expected.
Yeah I still feel like we should have squeezed more out of Ottawa for it...but overall happy with having him on the team regardless. Still feel like we should have either gotten more back with him, or they should be retaining more. But it is what it is at this point and as long as he is performing on the ice then all that is secondary.
 
I haven't, not sure why anyone would.
Happy he's here though, he's been great. Better than anyone would have expected.

At the time, my initial feeling was the trade could be a disaster if and only if Murray did not perform given how there were so few options available (if any were available at all) in both the short term and long term.

At the time, I also felt the retention was fair given the going rate for goalies in the Market.

While it is early in the season, I feel a lot better. Murray could be the goalie the Leafs have been needing to get them over their playoff failures.
 
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Yeah I still feel like we should have squeezed more out of Ottawa for it...but overall happy with having him on the team regardless. Still feel like we should have either gotten more back with him, or they should be retaining more. But it is what it is at this point and as long as he is performing on the ice then all that is secondary.

On one hand I would agree that I had expected a bit more to the deal - like a 2nd or a bit more retention.

That said folks in general get too caught up in the isolated details rather than the bigger picture..the front office clearly wanted part of their goaltending locked in before the start of free agency, and they did (while getting paid to do so) and so far seems to be working out excellently.

Ottawa was (and is still) a terrible team. It's not surprising he had some issues with them lol
 
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On one hand I would agree that I had expected a bit more to the deal - like a 2nd or a bit more retention.

That said folks in general get too caught up in the isolated details rather than the bigger picture..the front office clearly wanted part of their goaltending locked in before the start of free agency, and they did (while getting paid to do so) and so far seems to be working out excellently.

Ottawa was (and is still) a terrible team. It's not surprising he had some issues with them lol
Oh yeah I definitely don't think it is the end of the world, he is more then worth his cap hit we are covering if he is healthy and performing the way he is. Just my initial feelings were that we likely could have screwed Ottawa more in the situation they were in as they were pretty desperate to clear him out.
 
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The goalie with whom I have been the most impressed is Kevin Woodley After the trade last summer he gave a detailed analysis of Murray, (and a less detailed one on Samsonov), on both TSN and Sportsnet. Woodley provided a great deal of insight into why Murray had struggled and why he was optimistic for his future.

If you can find the podcasts, they are well worth a listen.
 
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I'd be careful breaking out the champagne and platitudes to Dubas for his "genius" trade.

Remember that Murray has a concerning injury history, including a missed stretch already this season. And while I am mostly confident he can play at or near this current level, let's see how things look if he goes through a rough patch first?

The Leafs have a history of being a goalie graveyard. Bringing in pretty good goalies that played pretty well until, for various reason, they didn't.
 
There were Toronto fans that felt at that time of the trade that (whether Murray succeeds or not), Toronto did not extract enough in terms or retention and or picks.

I wonder if they have changed their position?

It was a huge risk taking on Murray who hasn’t been good in like 4 years. Not necessarily a move a team looking to win makes. After he got injured after game 1 I’m sure more people were losing it
 
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