Player Discussion Matt Beleskey

[Fossy21]

You are wrong. There is a reason why they separate stats from the regular season and post season. The number of games is irrelevant. It's what they do in the regular season where players get the moniker of having hit a certain milestone, ie: 30 goal scorer, 100 point player, 300 goals scored, etc etc. Your way just flies in the face of how stats are read and tallied. Look at any top scoring list for any season ever in the NHL; none of them combine regular season + playoff seasons.

Fact: Lucic has scored 30 goals in a season. Beleskey has not.

All of this is true, but playoff stats exist too, albeit separately. And if goals scored is so much more important than any other stat as some seem to claim in here, Beleskey scored more goals this last playoff than Looch ever did in a playoff run, and that includes two SCF runs (i.e. 6 and 9 more games than Matt had when he scored eight).

 

[Mount Kramer Cameras]

Whichever way you slice it, Beleskey's 8 goals in 16 PO games last year was fairly impressive. I guess you could say it's a fact that he has scored 8 goals in the post-season and Lucic has not, but it wouldn't mean much. For what it's worth I think we're comparing very similar players at this moment in time. Beleskey will never match up to peak-Lucic, but then not many did.

 

[Paddington]

I, for one, think Beleskey has been fine. He brings energy and hits a bunch. He's a 3rd liner. He isn't going to light the world on fire. One thing I will concede is that the Bruins could use some more goals out of him but, like I said, he's a 3rd liner. I expect hot and cold from the 3rd line. The thing is, when guys are cold, I look to see if they are doing other things to help their team and Matt does those things.

 

[PB37]

All of this is true, but playoff stats exist too, albeit separately. And if goals scored is so much more important than any other stat as some seem to claim in here, Beleskey scored more goals this last playoff than Looch ever did in a playoff run, and that includes two SCF runs (i.e. 6 and 9 more games than Matt had when he scored eight).

Beleskey had an awesome playoff run last season. If he can duplicate that again here in Boston, it would definitely change the tone of some of his naysayers.

FYI ( not related to your post or directed to you ): Kings fans are pretty happy with Lucic, calling him a game changers and a must re-sign. The only trepidation is what he's going to demand and if the Kings can fit him under the cap. They're pretty happy with their end of the deal, but we definitely came out on top in terms of assets and we signed a guy who can duplicate some of Lucic's qualities for a cheaper price tag.

Question: If Eriksson moves on in the offseason, would you like to see Lucic resign here?

 

[Rancid McGoiter]

Question: If Eriksson moves on in the offseason, would you like to see Lucic resign here?

Yes. There's always a place for Looch in Boston...price being right of course.

 

[CDJ]

You are wrong. There is a reason why they separate stats from the regular season and post season. The number of games is irrelevant. It's what they do in the regular season where players get the moniker of having hit a certain milestone, ie: 30 goal scorer, 100 point player, 300 goals scored, etc etc. Your way just flies in the face of how stats are read and tallied. Look at any top scoring list for any season ever in the NHL; none of them combine regular season + playoff seasons.

Fact: Lucic has scored 30 goals in a season. Beleskey has not.

Nah, he has

Yes or no did he or did he not score 30 goals in 80 total games (less than 82 even) last year?

(Psssst the answer is yes)

*this denotes goals counting as the thing that happens when the puck goes in the net, we may be talking about something different*

 

[22Brad Park]

Nah, he has

Yes or no did he or did he not score 30 goals in 80 total games (less than 82 even) last year?

(Psssst the answer is yes)

*this denotes goals counting as the thing that happens when the puck goes in the net, we may be talking about something different*

Lucic is a lazy bigmouth .Give me Beleskey everyday all day over him.

 

[Shaun]

mediocre player being paid like a mediocre player. don't see the problem.

 

[jdz]

mediocre player being paid like a mediocre player. don't see the problem.

We get it, you think the team is average. The schtick is getting old now.

Its not like we can have an embarrassment of riches with guys like Loui skating round on the 3rd line every year. We don't have a fountain of youth.

Beleskey brings a lot of toughness and battle factor to a team that sorely needs it. It isn't a coincidence that he seems to assist on gamewinners. He's the one winning battles where others are tired and give up.

 

[CharasLazyWrister]

At no time have a stated I don't like the trade...but you have no clue as to what we could of gotten for Lucic if we had kept him and dealt him at the trade deadline.

And lets keep in mind that unless Sweeney does a great job drafting with those 1st rounder picks they are still not worth anything right now. And you need to look no further then his first draft and all the question marks by a lot of people out there.

You're right I have no idea and neither do you.

Is this where you tell me I'm wrong and you just know that they could have gotten more?

They got a ton. Can't we be happy with that? Nope, got to make up some theoretical ******** about how we could have gotten more at the deadline, of which there will never be any proof.

 

[CharasLazyWrister]

I, for one, think Beleskey has been fine. He brings energy and hits a bunch. He's a 3rd liner. He isn't going to light the world on fire. One thing I will concede is that the Bruins could use some more goals out of him but, like I said, he's a 3rd liner. I expect hot and cold from the 3rd line. The thing is, when guys are cold, I look to see if they are doing other things to help their team and Matt does those things.

Thank you.

Once again, the key for some of you around here is watching the game and looking past the G-A-P stat to judge players' values.

 

[Caper Bruins fan]

Beleskey had an awesome playoff run last season. If he can duplicate that again here in Boston, it would definitely change the tone of some of his naysayers.

FYI ( not related to your post or directed to you ): Kings fans are pretty happy with Lucic, calling him a game changers and a must re-sign. The only trepidation is what he's going to demand and if the Kings can fit him under the cap. They're pretty happy with their end of the deal, but we definitely came out on top in terms of assets and we signed a guy who can duplicate some of Lucic's qualities for a cheaper price tag.

Question: If Eriksson moves on in the offseason, would you like to see Lucic resign here?

Yes !

 

[Patrice Krejci*]

mediocre player being paid like a mediocre player. don't see the problem.

We get it, you think the team is average. The schtick is getting old now.

Its not like we can have an embarrassment of riches with guys like Loui skating round on the 3rd line every year. We don't have a fountain of youth.

Beleskey brings a lot of toughness and battle factor to a team that sorely needs it. It isn't a coincidence that he seems to assist on gamewinners. He's the one winning battles where others are tired and give up.

For real, why bother coming here to post if you're just going to be a bummer. Does it really make you feel that much better? I think he just likes complaing.

 

[Shaun]

We get it, you think the team is average. The schtick is getting old now.

Its not like we can have an embarrassment of riches with guys like Loui skating round on the 3rd line every year. We don't have a fountain of youth.

Beleskey brings a lot of toughness and battle factor to a team that sorely needs it. It isn't a coincidence that he seems to assist on gamewinners. He's the one winning battles where others are tired and give up.

For real, why bother coming here to post if you're just going to be a bummer. Does it really make you feel that much better? I think he just likes complaing.

not allowed to give an opinion unless its positive? read my posts from 10-13 **** was a lot more fun and entertaining back then

 

[13Hockey]

Bruins leaders in Even Strength Points

1. Krejci 14
2. Loui 11
3. Beleskey 10
4. Marchand 10
5. Hayes 9

And Beleskey does it in less ice time he has been very good this season

Beleskey is 2nd on the team in points per 60 minutes Even strength behind only Krejci

Beleskey is also 2nd on the team in 1st assist even strength only behind Krejci

 

[Patrice Krejci*]

not allowed to give an opinion unless its positive? read my posts from 10-13 **** was a lot more fun and entertaining back then

Yawn, all the same. Your opinion is welcome but I think EVERYONE knows exactly what you're going to say now. Why not bring something new to the table or at least offer your idea on how to fix it. The crew of the negative posters have one thing in common, none of you ever say how to fix the situation you spend so much time dumping on. And saying not trading Seguin or dougie is an answer. You hate this current team, how would you fix it? I'll wait.

 

[jdz]

not allowed to give an opinion unless its positive? read my posts from 10-13 **** was a lot more fun and entertaining back then

Repeated posts of "this team is average" or "so and so is mediocre" ad nauseum may be opinions and may even be correct in some places, but it's just pointless repeating it and adding nothing constructive to the discussion.

Teams that win heaps of games and blow out other teams are fun to follow. I've been there too. Doesn't really mean you have to repeat how bored and uninspired you are at every opportunity. This team has it's weaknesses, some glaring, but they're also one of the highest scoring in the league, and have the best powerplay. If you're bored by that and will only enjoy 2010-2013 type seasons then I got nothin for ya.

 

[Patrice Krejci*]

Repeated posts of "this team is average" or "so and so is mediocre" ad nauseum may be opinions and may even be correct in some places, but it's just pointless repeating it and adding nothing constructive to the discussion.

Teams that win heaps of games and blow out other teams are fun to follow. I've been there too. Doesn't really mean you have to repeat how bored and uninspired you are at every opportunity. This team has it's weaknesses, some glaring, but they're also one of the highest scoring in the league, and have the best powerplay. If you're bored by that and will only enjoy 2010-2013 type seasons then I got nothin for ya.

+1. No one expected this to be some amazing season by the bruins. However there are a few bright spots, Colin Miller, Krejci proving he can still play, Vatrano playing his heart out, and the return of somewhat Dallas Loui. It's been cool to watch some of the changes if we falter or not.

 

[CDJ]

Big hit, fought the bigger tougher guy, drew the penalty that leads to a goal

Big fan

 

[Mount Kramer Cameras]

You can tell a lot about a guy by the way in which he takes a few crushing punches to the face, and he took it pretty well

 

[CharasLazyWrister]

I get that Marchand ran into him.

But, how is the dive by Hank not even mentioned? Like...it's a pro-ref agenda. How about no agendas?

 

[chizzler]

Had a good game today. Coming along nicely.

 

[13Hockey]

Beleskey turned the whole game around with that hit

 

[catsmasher]

He's doing all the little things unlike Hayes who's been a complete zero

 

[LouisSleigher]

Guy is a classic lunch-pail Bruin, and I mean that as a compliment.