Player Discussion Matt Beleskey
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eh, is he though? He never potted 30 in a year...Beleskey has (fluke or not). I'd have a tough time saying he is much better (even if I do think he is marginally better)
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I rather have Beleskey on the 3rd line and Lou on the 1st line.
Regulation+playoffs I guess?, 30 goals in around 80 games.
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Beleskey had a great game last night. Seems he's been getting better every game of late. May Matt Mehleskey RIP. Would love to see him pot one soon to get his confidence up.
I didn't even know he was playing til sometime in the second period. He started the season uneven,got hot and now is stone cold.
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Those that aren't sure probably need to make peace with the fact that the Beleskey we're seeing now is the Beleskey he's going to be for the next 4 or 5 years. He hits, he battles along the boards and he puts up 40 points. There won't be a break out from this mould and I'm fine with it 
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Those that aren't sure probably need to make peace with the fact that the Beleskey we're seeing now is the Beleskey he's going to be for the next 4 or 5 years. He hits, he battles along the boards and he puts up 40 points. There won't be a break out from this mould and I'm fine with it
I never expected him to match last year. It was his best year ever, so to match it on a new team that plays defense first would be a miracle. Having said that, I'm ok with what he is delivering. They could use another one.
how can you not like him, guy wanted to be here and took less to come here.
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The fact that Beleskey gets 10000x the criticism of Hayes is one of the most ridiculous things going on this board. Hayes some fortuitous points and people can't read past the stat sheet.
Beleskey has EASILY been the better of the two. It's not even close to anyone who actually observes the game beyond a boxscore.
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He's done it far more recently than Lucic, that's for sure. 30 goals in 80 games last year.
I'm not going to argue whether Lucic is the better player or not because it's basically splitting hairs IMO (Beleskey would have his numbers with Lucic's linemates and PP time), but I have a problem with people saying he is MUCH better than Beleskey. I don't really think that is the case, especially when you factor in the nights Lucic is a complete and total passenger and contrast that with Beleskey not taking a shift off.
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I see that some here have said that BEleskey played well last night, but honestly I didn't see that at all.
I found him soft and rarely finishing his checks. Yes, he's made some good, solid plays this year but not so the last 2-3 games.
I found him soft and rarely finishing his checks. Yes, he's made some good, solid plays this year but not so the last 2-3 games.
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Well, considering he made key plays on two game winning goals the past 3 games, I think your comment is a little off...
Is it really that silly if it all occurred in under 82 games still? (Answer: no it isn't)
30 goals in 80 games. If you like guys that don't score in the playoffs then cool beans, but that's a 30 goal season
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It's all pretty straight forward, it seems. Lucic is the better player, but plays beneath himself. Belesky is the inferior player, but he plays to his ceiling consistently. Lucic's expensive contract is inflated and will continue to increase. Belesky's reasonably priced contract is cost controlled.
They're very different types of assets. The only commonality is.....? They rack up a ton of hits? Occasionally overlap in goal scoring? Have both played on Krecji's wing?
I'm glad we got Lucic off the books, but I miss him as a player. I'm glad we signed Belesky, and I hope he does well, even if I think he would make a better rugby player.
They're very different types of assets. The only commonality is.....? They rack up a ton of hits? Occasionally overlap in goal scoring? Have both played on Krecji's wing?
I'm glad we got Lucic off the books, but I miss him as a player. I'm glad we signed Belesky, and I hope he does well, even if I think he would make a better rugby player.
Not 35 by my standards. He played in 105 games.
Breaking news: 30 goals in 80 games is 30 goals in 80 games. You can argue it all you want it's just not gonna be a good argument. Youd have a point if he played 80 and then played the playoffs on top of it but he didn't and you don't. He played less than a full regular season in total if you combine all of his games and he still potted 30. If anything the argument would be he's more impressive than a standard 30 goal guy because in the playoffs things tighten up and he still managed a combined 30 in 80.
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Yes, because playoff scoring against playoff (= better) teams is overrated. I agree that they are different "seasons", but you can't just ignore it.
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brings more what exactly? Not goals or points or hits. So what exactly is he bringing more of?
You are wrong. There is a reason why they separate stats from the regular season and post season. The number of games is irrelevant. It's what they do in the regular season where players get the moniker of having hit a certain milestone, ie: 30 goal scorer, 100 point player, 300 goals scored, etc etc. Your way just flies in the face of how stats are read and tallied. Look at any top scoring list for any season ever in the NHL; none of them combine regular season + playoff seasons.
Fact: Lucic has scored 30 goals in a season. Beleskey has not.
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