Player Discussion Marner
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Can’t deny that, matty will have a down year similar to Ovi putting in a 30 something season amongst his 50 something seasons. Thankfully we have Stolarz, William, Knies and Mich they will do the heavy lifting this year
Only 56 games... in his career? Thus must be while Matthews was injured? Technically, he is
without him when they are on separare lines too.
And when he is not wjth Matthews, he was with the other Leaf #1 center, 11 million dollar Tavares. Oh no poor Marner had to play with Tavares when Matthews was hurt!
Dont look at the players some other great players play with every game. Like Kaprizov, Aho or someone like Hall in 2018.
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Honestly, I am at a point where I could careless what they do individually in the regular season.
Any of the Leafs could score 80 goals in the regular season but if they all collectively choke again in the first round, it really means nothing.
Well it would be great to win a Cup. But if all we get is an entertaining season where we earn 100 points I’m happy and upbeat most of the winter
He is desperate for a contract, of course hes playing every shift like its his last right now.. he wants to stay here. And no way he signs one with a limited no trade. Thing with Nylander is even when hes hardly trying he is producing. Marner needs to give 110% effort and even still hes not really generating scoring chances for his line.
Leafs have also learned that once Marner gets that NMC... there is nothing that will get him to waive. We are stuck with him for certain.
It does, Marner is too slow to play with fellow slow players Tavares and Patches.
They both can facilitate just fine without him let’s not act like they need him to generate offense
They can’t play Domi and Matthews together right now. We don’t have enough capable centers. Its been talked about at length an almost every podcast / radio show. Everyone loves the idea until you start trying to put lines together and it’s brutal. There just isn’t enough depth. You want to put a Knies - Matthews - Domi line together, they might be great offensively but they will be brutal defensively.
You want to keep Marner and Knies together as a pairing? Who the hell is centering that line? Without another center it’s just not possible. I think the leafs want to create 3 lines, but they need the next Ryan O’Reilly acquisition. Once they have that I think they role with these lines.
McMann - Matthews - Domi
Knies - xxx - Marner
Patches - Tavares - Nylander
Those are three balanced lines. My gut says Scott Laughton will be a maple leaf by the end of this year. Unless Fraser Minten proves he’s ready by the trade deadline
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I've said this may times. Individual accomplishments are a nice cherry on top of the cake when the team has playoff success. But when the team keeps failing year after year, it's just empty calories which highlight the fact that there is no cake.
Do we have less capable centers than last season?
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True, but Willy is also a great set up guy and Matty seems to play at least as well without Mitch.
I would say yes. Holmberg is considerably worse than he was last year and that seems to be the issue and we don’t have Dewer, Jarnkrok or Minten available. So I’d say yes, we are in a much worse spot Center wise than we were last year and no one to fill that 3 C role at the minute until Dewer at the very least is 100% healthy.
Right now we have Domi, Matthews Tavares, Kampf at center. I don’t know how you can look at that group of 4 and be like, we are going to move Domi to the wing and be okay while our next two replacements are currently injured. You need one of Dewer or Minten to be healthy at the very least and even if you’re hell bent on moving Domi to the wing and those two aren’t the solution, Jarnkrok has to be healthy
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Does decent with Domi Burt Infact Domi last year most even strength assets next to only McDavid. Nylander seems they wanted him to show he can run a line. So really nothing to exotic for someone like Confucius to not realize it's more a Captain then a marner.
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I'd really like to see the Leafs give Marner a shot at C ...he can more than handle the defensive side of it, and that can slide JT to #3C in overmatch situations.
Knies - Matthews - Domi
McMann - Marner - Nylander
Pacioretty - Tavares - Robertson
Lorentz - Kampf - Reaves/Homberg
that 3rd line should overmatch most 3rd lines in the league.
I'd honestly prefer the below, as Marner and Nylander both 'want/need' the puck on their stick a lot
Pacioretty - Tavares - Nylander
McMann - Marner - Robertson
Knies - Matthews - Domi
McMann - Marner - Nylander
Pacioretty - Tavares - Robertson
Lorentz - Kampf - Reaves/Homberg
that 3rd line should overmatch most 3rd lines in the league.
I'd honestly prefer the below, as Marner and Nylander both 'want/need' the puck on their stick a lot
Pacioretty - Tavares - Nylander
McMann - Marner - Robertson
I wouldn't even consider engaging in an extension discussion until after the playoffs. I agree fully, in the playoffs when checking is tighter his game isn't really effective. All I'm saying is he's shown a bit more fight this year and he isn't just letting guys bully him around in scrums and altercations after the whistle.
I wouldn't pay him more than Nylander unless he goes on some great playoff run that warrants it.
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So happy we have Marner keeping that +1 going and making that 10.9m while our team has no C depth and Willy and Payches are keeping the reanimated corpse of the former captain JT going for now. Soon he will look like, and we may as well slap some skates on a robotic Chuck E Cheese.
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Lmao now we’re blaming players for the lack of center depth? That’s strictly on the GM and the organizations inability to draft and develop centermen. That has nothing to do with the players. GM’s are responsible for putting together a competitive roster not the players.
Completely agree with that. My whole point was saying that even if they want to do it, right now with the injuries it’s not even a consideration. Not that they can’t ever do it. It just makes the rest of the lineup weaker and unbalanced right now. But once Dewar is healthy or Minten tbh I’d love to see them go to 3 lines with each big boy driving their own line.
Mitch is more than capable, we saw it two years ago with Tavares - O’Reilly - Marner. That line was money in their short sample size.
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We need less delusions and more solutions. We need less play to get paid and more play to get laid. We need less we gotta do's and more men showing up in their big boy shoes.
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