Player Discussion Marner

[Confucius]

He’s a career over point a game player with and without Matthews so why are we sticcin them together spread the offense

Maybe Mathews needs the help

 

[Gabriel426]

Maybe Mathews needs the help

Well MM not helping AM much sofar this season, lol.

 

[Confucius]

Well MM not helping AM much sofar this season, lol.

Can’t deny that, matty will have a down year similar to Ovi putting in a 30 something season amongst his 50 something seasons. Thankfully we have Stolarz, William, Knies and Mich they will do the heavy lifting this year

 

[Antropovsky]

"Mitch Marner has 16 goals, 52 assists and a plus-minus of +16 in 56 games without Auston Matthews in his career"​

Only 56 games... in his career? Thus must be while Matthews was injured? Technically, he is
without him when they are on separare lines too.

And when he is not wjth Matthews, he was with the other Leaf #1 center, 11 million dollar Tavares. Oh no poor Marner had to play with Tavares when Matthews was hurt!

Dont look at the players some other great players play with every game. Like Kaprizov, Aho or someone like Hall in 2018.

 

[Gabriel426]

Can’t deny that, matty will have a down year similar to Ovi putting in a 30 something season amongst his 50 something seasons. Thankfully we have Stolarz, William, Knies and Mich they will do the heavy lifting this year

Honestly, I am at a point where I could careless what they do individually in the regular season.
Any of the Leafs could score 80 goals in the regular season but if they all collectively choke again in the first round, it really means nothing.

 

[Confucius]

Honestly, I am at a point where I could careless what they do individually in the regular season.
Any of the Leafs could score 80 goals in the regular season but if they all collectively choke again in the first round, it really means nothing.

Well it would be great to win a Cup. But if all we get is an entertaining season where we earn 100 points I’m happy and upbeat most of the winter

 

[Antropovsky]

Yes, playoffs is the obvious retort, and with good reason. We've seen encouraging signs from Marner every year during the regular season but you should know by now that it means nothing. Pumping this guys tires during the regular season only shows how gullible you are, best to drink your koolaid quietly.

He is desperate for a contract, of course hes playing every shift like its his last right now.. he wants to stay here. And no way he signs one with a limited no trade. Thing with Nylander is even when hes hardly trying he is producing. Marner needs to give 110% effort and even still hes not really generating scoring chances for his line.

Leafs have also learned that once Marner gets that NMC... there is nothing that will get him to waive. We are stuck with him for certain.

 

[Gabriel426]

Well it would be great to win a Cup. But if all we get is an entertaining season where we earn 100 points I’m happy and upbeat most of the winter

Cup or whatever for me.

 

[arso40]

It's frustrating seeing how good Matthews/Domi were last year and having Berube basically avoid them ever being together this season

If we can get a center at the deadline, we should reunite Matthews/Domi and let Marner play with the new acquisition. Spreads out the talent and will give us 3 really good lines

Knies - Matthews - Domi
Patches - Tavares - Nylander
McMann - XXX - Marner

If they get someone like Gourde that L3 suddenly becomes an elite matchup line that can score

Even swap Nylander and Marner doesn’t matter

 

[Antropovsky]

Even swap Nylander and Marner doesn’t matter

It does, Marner is too slow to play with fellow slow players Tavares and Patches.

 

[arso40]

He had a great game vs Boston, I thought he was the best player on the ice by a mile on both ends of the ice. He looks far more engaged physically this season, maybe it was the pressure getting to him or maybe culture change with Berube ? But I like his game so far, not the playoffs but I can't recall ever seeing Mitch engage with guys physically after the whistle and throw shots. Also Matthews coming to his defence vs Suter the other day was nice to see, that kind of stuff was unheard of from this team.

I gave him a lot of shit, i'll also give him credit where it's due. We all want the Leafs and Mitch to succeed for this team. Really hoping he can consistently play like that.


Willy and Auston are both shoot first guys, Marner is a great set up guy

They both can facilitate just fine without him let’s not act like they need him to generate offense

 

[francis246]

It's frustrating seeing how good Matthews/Domi were last year and having Berube basically avoid them ever being together this season

If we can get a center at the deadline, we should reunite Matthews/Domi and let Marner play with the new acquisition. Spreads out the talent and will give us 3 really good lines

Knies - Matthews - Domi
Patches - Tavares - Nylander
McMann - XXX - Marner

If they get someone like Gourde that L3 suddenly becomes an elite matchup line that can score

They can’t play Domi and Matthews together right now. We don’t have enough capable centers. Its been talked about at length an almost every podcast / radio show. Everyone loves the idea until you start trying to put lines together and it’s brutal. There just isn’t enough depth. You want to put a Knies - Matthews - Domi line together, they might be great offensively but they will be brutal defensively.

You want to keep Marner and Knies together as a pairing? Who the hell is centering that line? Without another center it’s just not possible. I think the leafs want to create 3 lines, but they need the next Ryan O’Reilly acquisition. Once they have that I think they role with these lines.

McMann - Matthews - Domi
Knies - xxx - Marner
Patches - Tavares - Nylander

Those are three balanced lines. My gut says Scott Laughton will be a maple leaf by the end of this year. Unless Fraser Minten proves he’s ready by the trade deadline

 

[Gary Nylund]

Honestly, I am at a point where I could careless what they do individually in the regular season.
Any of the Leafs could score 80 goals in the regular season but if they all collectively choke again in the first round, it really means nothing.

I've said this may times. Individual accomplishments are a nice cherry on top of the cake when the team has playoff success. But when the team keeps failing year after year, it's just empty calories which highlight the fact that there is no cake.

They can’t play Domi and Matthews together right now. We don’t have enough capable centers. Its been talked about at length an almost every podcast / radio show. Everyone loves the idea until you start trying to put lines together and it’s brutal. There just isn’t enough depth. You want to put a Knies - Matthews - Domi line together, they might be great offensively but they will be brutal defensively.

You want to keep Marner and Knies together as a pairing? Who the hell is centering that line? Without another center it’s just not possible. I think the leafs want to create 3 lines, but they need the next Ryan O’Reilly acquisition. Once they have that I think they role with these lines.

McMann - Matthews - Domi
Knies - xxx - Marner
Patches - Tavares - Nylander

Those are three balanced lines. My gut says Scott Laughton will be a maple leaf by the end of this year. Unless Fraser Minten proves he’s ready by the trade deadline

Do we have less capable centers than last season?

 

[Tie Domi Esquire]

Honestly, I am at a point where I could careless what they do individually in the regular season.
Any of the Leafs could score 80 goals in the regular season but if they all collectively choke again in the first round, it really means nothing.

Not for the fantasy hockey players and degenerate gamblers who forgot that the point of the game is winning.

 

[leafs in five]

Sorry - I have a life.

ok carry on then

 

[notDatsyuk]

Willy and Auston are both shoot first guys, Marner is a great set up guy

True, but Willy is also a great set up guy and Matty seems to play at least as well without Mitch.