Salary Cap: Marner contract discussion XVI (continued)

[LaPlante94]

Matthews is already happy with his sweat over priced deal so your point is moot.

I know he is. Just pointing out you can't assume 1 player will be hurt/injury prone in 5 years when anyone could be and the only reason he's been having back issues the past 2 seasons apparently is because of the screws in his leg from a 2014 surgery according to reports.

 

[Pookie]

Kane had better numbers than Marner during a period where scoring was lower league wide than it was today.

10.5 M in 2015 Kane?

.94 Kane and .93 Marner.... yeah that’s pretty close.

Kane/Eichel plus inflation.

 

[Pookie]

Nice things shouldn't cost any more money than what other gm's pay for comparable nice things.

Assuming they too have .93 PPG playmakers in their roster.

 

[ORRFForever]

 

[HolyCrap]

Matthews is already happy with his sweat over priced deal so your point is moot.

You didn’t answer his question. You know you got caught moving goalposts. Lol.

 

[ORRFForever]

I know he is. Just pointing out you can't assume 1 player will be hurt/injury prone in 5 years when anyone could be and the only reason he's been having back issues the past 2 seasons apparently is because of the screws in his leg from a 2014 surgery according to reports.

I just saying the Leafs should avoid burning bridges with Marner. If an extra $500K makes him happy, sign the cheque.

 

[HolyCrap]

Your agenda is so obvious. I’m not sure why I don’t put you on the special list. But I do enjoy laughing at your lack of common sense.

 

[Throw More Waffles]

Assuming they too have .93 PPG playmakers in their roster.

So our goal scorers are paid based on their goals per game in relation to comparables, while points are ignored.

And our play makers are paid based on their points per game in relation to comparables, while goals are ignored.

No wonder this team is in cap hell.

 

[ajp4to]

Aho’s elc numbers were better than Eichel... and he even played the same position last year.

How come Aho wasn’t “Eichel contract plus inflation”?

Because he didn't play with TO or he would have gotten what Marner was offered 10.5X8.

 

[MyBudJT]

I know he is. Just pointing out you can't assume 1 player will be hurt/injury prone in 5 years when anyone could be and the only reason he's been having back issues the past 2 seasons apparently is because of the screws in his leg from a 2014 surgery according to reports.

You don't honestly believe this, do you?

Wasn't it his shoulder that was the issue this season, anyways?

 

[Pookie]

Oh, so you agree that Rantanen and Marner should make VERY similar money/term?

Let's see how Dubas (lol) does in that contract comparison.

I said he was probably the closest comparable in this offseason and both would use Eichel and Kane as their comps.

Marner should get a little more. Based on his production and the fact that Colorado has lower state taxes

 

[ORRFForever]

You didn’t answer his question. You know you got caught moving goalposts. Lol.

The gentlemen who wrote the original post understood what I meant and that the point was moot.

If you don't understand, perhaps you could P.M. him.

 

[ORRFForever]

Your agenda is so obvious. I’m not sure why I don’t put you on the special list. But I do enjoy laughing at your lack of common sense.

Glad I made you laugh.

 

[Pookie]

So our goal scorers are paid based on their goals per game in relation to comparables, while points are ignored.

And our play makers are paid based on their points per game in relation to comparables, while goals are ignored.

No wonder this team is in cap hell.

Don’t know who is saying paying for goals is the way to go.

.93 PPG playmaker that’s what we are trying to buy. And they are expensive.

 

[Leafs1993]

This is pretty cringey

 

[ORRFForever]

This is pretty cringey

If by "cringey" (not a real word) you mean "true" or "accurate", then yes, I agree.

 

[stopclickbait]

This is pretty cringey

No joke eh wow that is so cringey lol

 

[Throw More Waffles]

I said he was probably the closest comparable in this offseason and both would use Eichel and Kane as their comps.

Marner should get a little more. Based on his production and the fact that Colorado has lower state taxes

Ahhh... so the very second I bring up someone with pretty much the same ppg (and much higher gpg), there's now "all of a sudden" more to the story than just ppg.

Imagine that...

 

[Throw More Waffles]

Don’t know who is saying paying for goals is the way to go.

.93 PPG playmaker that’s what we are trying to buy. And they are expensive.

What is it you think of the Mattews contract? I don't remember.

 

[ORRFForever]

The way the Matthews apologists praise him, he better be "McDavid like" this year because the rest of us are tired of the excuses. In the Spring of 2020, we better hear :

"And the nominees for the Hart Trophy are :

Connor McDavid
Nathan MacKinnon
Auston Matthews"

because he has his winger, he has his money, and he's healthy. If you want to be paid like a Top 3 player in the League, Auston, and your fans are going to praise you like you're a Top 3 player, you better be one.

 

[Heisen]

With the Bura signing at 3.25 for 1 year (25 points), Marner’s ask is now back up to 12.4~ on a 1 year deal.

 

[LaPlante94]

Kane with a **** ton more PP time in there, because the Blackhawks had tons of PPs. Also Kane signed his contract in Dec so he didn’t play his full 3rd year. Marner produced substantially more than Kane, like another tier. And no Kane did not win a cup before his second contract signing.

Nylander and Kane had pretty much identical production in their careers before signing their second contracts. That’s how much PP time Kane had.

true, but you can't really fault Kane because his 1st 3 seasons in the league he got 72 penalties drawn to Marners 43.

 

[Menzinger]

10.5 M in 2015 Kane?

.94 Kane and .93 Marner.... yeah that’s pretty close.

Kane/Eichel plus inflation.

No, his post ELC contract. F

Rfa Marner has zero basis getting what Kane did in 2015, a deal he got after multiple cup wins and was entirely ufa years.

 

[ajp4to]

I just saying the Leafs should avoid burning bridges with Marner. If an extra $500K makes him happy, sign the cheque.

Yea 500K here, 1M there, two million somewhere else, and no way to sign decent support players. Not sure why people don't understand; overpaying players means less to sign other players. The cap is the same for every team. Cap space is more important then overpaid players (the reason teams don't give out Offer sheets and assets). Does anyone remember what Marleau cost?

 

[LaPlante94]

You don't honestly believe this, do you?

Wasn't it his shoulder that was the issue this season, anyways?

Just going off reports because that's all we can do really. I'm not a medical expert so it is what it is.