Marc Bergevin Press Conference 1 PM

[Spearmint Rhino]

Wow man, you guys are just unbelievable.

KK in his rookie year put up 34 points playing with Lehkonen and Armia the entire year.

2 years pass and this year he mainly gets to play with Toffoli and Anderson and he does worse than his rookie year and it's somehow on the coaches and organization for his lack of progression?

Great...

So they’re either really shitty at drafting or really shitty at developing to have almost 2 decades of first round busts - heads should roll regardless.

 

[Sorinth]

Wow man, you guys are just unbelievable.

KK in his rookie year put up 34 points playing with Lehkonen and Armia the entire year.

2 years pass and this year he mainly gets to play with Toffoli and Anderson and he does worse than his rookie year and it's somehow on the coaches and organization for his lack of progression?

Great...

Doesn't this just highlight that the problem was one of confidence? And if so do you think benchings, demotions, never getting a promotion, constant line shuffling is good or bad for a players confidence?

 

[Grate n Colorful Oz]

A 26 year old with nearly 400 games played and 232 points (so, scoring at higher than 0.5 ppg) is not panning out? 33 playoff games with 21 points (0.64 ppg).

This included being asked to play a position he hadn't played since junior ...

People seem to think that if you are drafted in the first round, you should be a Crosby, a McDavid, or a McKinnen.

Drouin is already a success. Yes, we wanted him to be the next Lafleur ... but perhaps our expectations were too high, and perhaps we are jumping the gun. I personally think that Drouin will likely have a good season. Don't know what was up with him this year, but if it is behind him, I could see him playing well on one of the top two lines.

Jeeze, talk for yourself, Michel Bergeron. I lmao when I read his JDM article after the trade.

Drouin isn't a success, not for a 3rd overall pick, playing the least demanding position in hockey.

You post his points, which are underwhelming, but leave out how much of a liability he's been for most of his 4 seasons here.

I get it, le Québécois gets all the leeway, yet you piss on a 21 years old who hasn't even played a season as a 21 years old. It reeks of an obvious double standard. Don't feel obliged to reply.

 

[Goalfield13]

Jeeze, talk for yourself, Michel Bergeron. I lmao when I read his JDM article after the trade.

Drouin isn't a success, not for a 3rd overall pick, playing the least demanding position in hockey.

You post his points, which are underwhelming, but leave out how much of a liability he's been for most of his 4 seasons here.

I get it, le Québécois gets all the leeway, yet you piss on a 21 years old who hasn't even played a season as a 21 years old. It reeks of an obvious double standard. Don't feel obliged to reply.

I agree. Both Drouin and KK suck.

 

[Grate n Colorful Oz]

I agree. Both Drouin and KK suck.

So I guess the PR team got orders to piss on Drouin too. Damaged goods.

 

[Goalfield13]

So I guess the PR team got orders to piss on Drouin too. Damaged goods.

I have never been high on Drouin. Bad trade. A player that needs everything on the ice to be perfect to succeed. Yuck.

 

[Sorinth]

You are really struggling with comprehension here.......

This was Dundon's idea, not Waddell's. Dundon is a buffoon who knows nothing about hockey and has clearly forced his GM who would never agree to such an idiotic scheme into exacting his backwoods revenge.

You have to be utterly delusional to believe that Don Waddell was itching to give a 5 goal scorer 6.1 million after taking the entire summer to ink a far superior player in Svechnikov to slightly more. I was listening to the Fan 590 last week and a former colleague of Waddell's was on and stated that none of this is consistent with Waddell's philosophies and this was certainly the will of an embarrassed and angry owner.

The levels of intellectual dishonesty that MB haters will sink to is absolutely gross but this world seems to be full of people looking to fabricate their own realities nowadays.

Please direct your delusions elsewhere.

So now that both Waddell and Dundon have been interviewed and refuted your premise is it still intellectually dishonest and delusional? Or is it all a conspiracy to make MB look bad.

 

[Corky]

So now that both Waddell and Dundon have been interviewed and refuted your premise is it still intellectually dishonest and delusional? Or is it all a conspiracy to make MB look bad.

You seriously think that Waddell and Dundon are being truthful here when interviewed? Seriously?

 

[DAChampion]

So now that both Waddell and Dundon have been interviewed and refuted your premise is it still intellectually dishonest and delusional? Or is it all a conspiracy to make MB look bad.

The simplest explanation is that Carolina expected Montreal to match but are ok with the fact they didn't. They are now getting a young player with significant potential for a low cost, and that's great.

Many fans on this board are hyperventilating over the 6.1 million dollar price tag, but that's really not a huge deal. Note that the Habs are currently overpaying for Price, Weber, Drouin, Alzner, and Byron.

Further, no extra points in the standings are awarded for unused cap space.

 

[BergevinsOnlyFan]

I have never been high on Drouin. Bad trade. A player that needs everything on the ice to be perfect to succeed. Yuck.

If Drouin was drafted 25th and not traded for Sergechev people around here wouldn't hate him as much he is still a decent hockey player maybe a little over payed but it is what it is

 

[Sorinth]

You seriously think that Waddell and Dundon are being truthful here when interviewed? Seriously?

If we aren't supposed to believe them, then why should we believe Bergevin when he said Carolina didn't offer more then a 1st and a 3rd prior to the offersheet? Why should we believe Waddell's former colleague?

Also if it was revenge then you'd actually want people to know and believe it was for revenge since that would actually act as a deterrent and potentially stop teams from trying to OS Carolina in the future. Not too mention if this all blows up in Carolina's face and KK busts like so many are saying is sure to happen, then Dundon will still be out looking for revenge because this attempt failed. So I guess we should prepare for a Suzuki offersheet as well right?

 

[Corky]

If we aren't supposed to believe them, then why should we believe Bergevin when he said Carolina didn't offer more then a 1st and a 3rd prior to the offersheet? Why should we believe Waddell's former colleague?

Also if it was revenge then you'd actually want people to know and believe it was for revenge since that would actually act as a deterrent and potentially stop teams from trying to OS Carolina in the future. Not too mention if this all blows up in Carolina's face and KK busts like so many are saying is sure to happen, then Dundon will still be out looking for revenge because this attempt failed. So I guess we should prepare for a Suzuki offersheet as well right?

Go back and read article on how publicly butt hurt Dundon felt at the the time of the Aho offer. He made a bunch of comments to the press and was embarrassed at the fact that Bergevin thought he was too cheap to fork out the 20m bonus.

Compare with Bergevin who did not say a single bad thing about the Canes following this. One organization has proven to be a lot classier than the other here and yes, I truly believe Dundon did it for revenge.

KK is the absolute last player the Canes need now. They are stacked at centre and arguably at forwards in general. They need D’s following the departure of Hamilton and arguably, they lost the opportunity to improve there by giving 6.1m to KK.

 

[DAChampion]

KK is the absolute last player the Canes need now. They are stacked at centre and arguably at forwards in general. They need D’s following the departure of Hamilton and arguably, they lost the opportunity to improve there by giving 6.1m to KK.

If Kotkaniemi pans out for them, the Canes then have a lot of trade leverage to acquire a D. They might also trade Trocheck. In the meantime they can play KK on LW and benefit from his defensive responsibility and excellence at transition.

 

[Corky]

If Kotkaniemi pans out for them, the Canes then have a lot of trade leverage to acquire a D. They might also trade Trocheck. In the meantime they can play KK on LW and benefit from his defensive responsibility and excellence at transition.

Defensive responsibility? I like KK but he is not that defensively responsible yet.

Agreed about leverage to trade.

 

[Bacchus1]

Jeeze, talk for yourself, Michel Bergeron. I lmao when I read his JDM article after the trade.

Drouin isn't a success, not for a 3rd overall pick, playing the least demanding position in hockey.

You post his points, which are underwhelming, but leave out how much of a liability he's been for most of his 4 seasons here.

I get it, le Québécois gets all the leeway, yet you piss on a 21 years old who hasn't even played a season as a 21 years old. It reeks of an obvious double standard. Don't feel obliged to reply.

Oh you thin skinned fabricator. First, if I "pissed" on KK, it is because the turd nugget signed that egregious contract, underperformed, and then blame the coaches/GM, and took none of the blame himself.

Here are the #3 draft picks from the last 33 years. Go ahead and rank them? Is JD dead last? (I think he is in the top 50%.)

2013	Jonathan Drouin	LW	Halifax (QMJHL)	Tampa Bay Lightning
2012	Alex Galchenyuk	C	Sarnia (OHL)	Montreal Canadiens
2011	Jonathan Huberdeau	C/LW	Saint John (QMJHL)	Florida Panthers
2010	Erik Gudbranson	D	Kingston (OHL)	Florida Panthers
2009	Matt Duchene	C	Brampton (OHL)	Colorado Avalanche
2008	Zach Bogosian	D	Peterborough (OHL)	Atlanta Thrashers
2007	Kyle Turris	C	Burnaby (BCHL)	Phoenix Coyotes
2006	Jonathan Toews	C	North Dakota (WCHA)	Chicago Blackhawks
2005	Jack Johnson	D	U.S. Junior National Team (Intl)	Carolina Hurricanes
2004	Cam Barker	D	Medicine Hat Tigers (WHL)	Chicago Blackhawks
2003	Nathan Horton	C	Oshawa Generals (OHL)	Florida Panthers
2002	Jay Bouwmeester	D	Medicine Hat Tigers (WHL)	Florida Panthers
2001	Alexandr Svitov	C	Omsk Avangard (Russia)	Tampa Bay Lightning
2000	Marian Gaborik	LW	Dukla Trencin (Slovak)	Minnesota Wild
1999	Henrik Sedin	C	Modo Hockey Ornskoldsvik (SEL)	Vancouver Canucks
1998	Brad Stuart	D	Regina Pats (WHL)	San Jose Sharks
1997	Olli Jokinen	C	HIFK Helsinki (FNL)	Los Angeles Kings
1996	J.P. Dumont	RW	Val-d'Or Foreurs (QMJHL)	New York Islanders
1995	Aki-Petteri Berg	D	TPS Jrs. (Finland)	Los Angeles Kings
1994	Radek Bonk	C	Las Vegas Thunder (IHL)	Ottawa Senators
1993	Chris Gratton	C	Kingston Frontenacs (OHL)	Tampa Bay Lightning
1992	Mike Rathje	D	Medicine Hat Tigers (WHL)	San Jose Sharks
1991	Scott Niedermayer	D	Kamloops Blazers (WHL)	New Jersey Devils
1990	Keith Primeau	C	Niagara-Falls Thunder (OHL)	Detroit Red Wings
1989	Scott Thornton	C	Belleville Bulls (OHL)	Toronto Maple Leafs
1988	Curtis Leschyshyn	D	Saskatoon Blades (WHL)	Quebuc Nordiques
1987	Glen Wesley	D	Portland Winter Hawks (WHL)	Boston Bruins
1986	Neil Brady	C	Medicine Hat Tigers (WHL)	New Jersey Devils
1985	Craig Wolanin	D	Kitchener Rangers (OHL)	New Jersey Devils
1984	Ed Olczyk	C	U.S. National Team (Intl)	Chicago Blackhawks
1983	Pat LaFontaine	C	Verdun Juniors (QMJHL)	New York Islanders
1981	Bobby Carpenter	C	St. John's Prep [Mass H.S.]	Washington Capitals
1980	Denis Savard

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

(MOD)

 

[Bacchus1]

I have never been high on Drouin. Bad trade. A player that needs everything on the ice to be perfect to succeed. Yuck.

I agree with that. Wish we had kept Sergachev!

But, now that we have him ... I hope he plays like he did last year with Suzuki, or gets some chemistry with DVO, who ... apparently ... plays well with a puck carrying winger ... which Drouin kinda is.

Hoping for the best!

 

[Bacchus1]

The simplest explanation is that Carolina expected Montreal to match but are ok with the fact they didn't. They are now getting a young player with significant potential for a low cost, and that's great.

Many fans on this board are hyperventilating over the 6.1 million dollar price tag, but that's really not a huge deal. Note that the Habs are currently overpaying for Price, Weber, Drouin, Alzner, and Byron.

Further, no extra points in the standings are awarded for unused cap space.

I think Carolina is shocked that the Habs didn't match. I think that they are probably cautiously optimistic ...

<shadenfreude>I'm kinda hoping that KK continues to have growing pains, gets lowed balled, and then demands the QO or becomes a free agent. KK can easily have the Canes over a barrel. Would love to see THAT!

I hope after that event, KK gets it together and has an awesome career ... but not with the Canes! </shadenfreude>

 

[WinterLion]

Oh you thin skinned fabricator. First, if I "pissed" on KK, it is because the turd nugget signed that egregious contract, underperformed, and then blame the coaches/GM, and took none of the blame himself.

Here are the #3 draft picks from the last 33 years. Go ahead and rank them? Is JD dead last? (I think he is in the top 50%.)

2013	Jonathan Drouin	LW	Halifax (QMJHL)	Tampa Bay Lightning
2012	Alex Galchenyuk	C	Sarnia (OHL)	Montreal Canadiens
2011	Jonathan Huberdeau	C/LW	Saint John (QMJHL)	Florida Panthers
2010	Erik Gudbranson	D	Kingston (OHL)	Florida Panthers
2009	Matt Duchene	C	Brampton (OHL)	Colorado Avalanche
2008	Zach Bogosian	D	Peterborough (OHL)	Atlanta Thrashers
2007	Kyle Turris	C	Burnaby (BCHL)	Phoenix Coyotes
2006	Jonathan Toews	C	North Dakota (WCHA)	Chicago Blackhawks
2005	Jack Johnson	D	U.S. Junior National Team (Intl)	Carolina Hurricanes
2004	Cam Barker	D	Medicine Hat Tigers (WHL)	Chicago Blackhawks
2003	Nathan Horton	C	Oshawa Generals (OHL)	Florida Panthers
2002	Jay Bouwmeester	D	Medicine Hat Tigers (WHL)	Florida Panthers
2001	Alexandr Svitov	C	Omsk Avangard (Russia)	Tampa Bay Lightning
2000	Marian Gaborik	LW	Dukla Trencin (Slovak)	Minnesota Wild
1999	Henrik Sedin	C	Modo Hockey Ornskoldsvik (SEL)	Vancouver Canucks
1998	Brad Stuart	D	Regina Pats (WHL)	San Jose Sharks
1997	Olli Jokinen	C	HIFK Helsinki (FNL)	Los Angeles Kings
1996	J.P. Dumont	RW	Val-d'Or Foreurs (QMJHL)	New York Islanders
1995	Aki-Petteri Berg	D	TPS Jrs. (Finland)	Los Angeles Kings
1994	Radek Bonk	C	Las Vegas Thunder (IHL)	Ottawa Senators
1993	Chris Gratton	C	Kingston Frontenacs (OHL)	Tampa Bay Lightning
1992	Mike Rathje	D	Medicine Hat Tigers (WHL)	San Jose Sharks
1991	Scott Niedermayer	D	Kamloops Blazers (WHL)	New Jersey Devils
1990	Keith Primeau	C	Niagara-Falls Thunder (OHL)	Detroit Red Wings
1989	Scott Thornton	C	Belleville Bulls (OHL)	Toronto Maple Leafs
1988	Curtis Leschyshyn	D	Saskatoon Blades (WHL)	Quebuc Nordiques
1987	Glen Wesley	D	Portland Winter Hawks (WHL)	Boston Bruins
1986	Neil Brady	C	Medicine Hat Tigers (WHL)	New Jersey Devils
1985	Craig Wolanin	D	Kitchener Rangers (OHL)	New Jersey Devils
1984	Ed Olczyk	C	U.S. National Team (Intl)	Chicago Blackhawks
1983	Pat LaFontaine	C	Verdun Juniors (QMJHL)	New York Islanders
1981	Bobby Carpenter	C	St. John's Prep [Mass H.S.]	Washington Capitals
1980	Denis Savard

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

Hey, you know what ... you pretentious psychopath of a comic book figure/ignorant poem from a poet who engaged in armchair anthropology ... you don't have to answer LOL ... because your posts are full of the same empty bravado!

Thanks for bringing this up. That list is full of guys who didn't quite fulfill expectations. It's good to have a dose of reality every once in a while. Much appreciated.

 

[Sorinth]

Go back and read article on how publicly butt hurt Dundon felt at the the time of the Aho offer. He made a bunch of comments to the press and was embarrassed at the fact that Bergevin thought he was too cheap to fork out the 20m bonus.

Compare with Bergevin who did not say a single bad thing about the Canes following this. One organization has proven to be a lot classier than the other here and yes, I truly believe Dundon did it for revenge.

KK is the absolute last player the Canes need now. They are stacked at centre and arguably at forwards in general. They need D’s following the departure of Hamilton and arguably, they lost the opportunity to improve there by giving 6.1m to KK.

So then if KK struggles it's not over right? Because if he was butt hurt and embarrassed and KK doesn't have a strong year he'll just be more butt hurt and embarrassed right? So we should expect Suzuki to get a 10m+ offersheet right?

 

[Bacchus1]

Thanks for bringing this up. That list is full of guys who didn't quite fulfill expectations. It's good to have a dose of reality every once in a while. Much appreciated.

2013	Jonathan Drouin	LW	Halifax (QMJHL)	Tampa Bay Lightning
2012	Alex Galchenyuk	C	Sarnia (OHL)	Montreal Canadiens
2011	Jonathan Huberdeau	C/LW	Saint John (QMJHL)	Florida Panthers
2010	Erik Gudbranson	D	Kingston (OHL)	Florida Panthers
2009	Matt Duchene	C	Brampton (OHL)	Colorado Avalanche
2008	Zach Bogosian	D	Peterborough (OHL)	Atlanta Thrashers
2007	Kyle Turris	C	Burnaby (BCHL)	Phoenix Coyotes
2006	Jonathan Toews	C	North Dakota (WCHA)	Chicago Blackhawks
2005	Jack Johnson	D	U.S. Junior National Team (Intl)	Carolina Hurricanes
2004	Cam Barker	D	Medicine Hat Tigers (WHL)	Chicago Blackhawks
2003	Nathan Horton	C	Oshawa Generals (OHL)	Florida Panthers
2002	Jay Bouwmeester	D	Medicine Hat Tigers (WHL)	Florida Panthers
2001	Alexandr Svitov	C	Omsk Avangard (Russia)	Tampa Bay Lightning
2000	Marian Gaborik	LW	Dukla Trencin (Slovak)	Minnesota Wild
1999	Henrik Sedin	C	Modo Hockey Ornskoldsvik (SEL)	Vancouver Canucks
1998	Brad Stuart	D	Regina Pats (WHL)	San Jose Sharks
1997	Olli Jokinen	C	HIFK Helsinki (FNL)	Los Angeles Kings
1996	J.P. Dumont	RW	Val-d'Or Foreurs (QMJHL)	New York Islanders
1995	Aki-Petteri Berg	D	TPS Jrs. (Finland)	Los Angeles Kings
1994	Radek Bonk	C	Las Vegas Thunder (IHL)	Ottawa Senators
1993	Chris Gratton	C	Kingston Frontenacs (OHL)	Tampa Bay Lightning
1992	Mike Rathje	D	Medicine Hat Tigers (WHL)	San Jose Sharks
1991	Scott Niedermayer	D	Kamloops Blazers (WHL)	New Jersey Devils
1990	Keith Primeau	C	Niagara-Falls Thunder (OHL)	Detroit Red Wings
1989	Scott Thornton	C	Belleville Bulls (OHL)	Toronto Maple Leafs
1988	Curtis Leschyshyn	D	Saskatoon Blades (WHL)	Quebuc Nordiques
1987	Glen Wesley	D	Portland Winter Hawks (WHL)	Boston Bruins
1986	Neil Brady	C	Medicine Hat Tigers (WHL)	New Jersey Devils
1985	Craig Wolanin	D	Kitchener Rangers (OHL)	New Jersey Devils
1984	Ed Olczyk	C	U.S. National Team (Intl)	Chicago Blackhawks
1983	Pat LaFontaine	C	Verdun Juniors (QMJHL)	New York Islanders
1981	Bobby Carpenter	C	St. John's Prep [Mass H.S.]	Washington Capitals
1980	Denis Savard

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

I've bolded the 8/33 players who are clearly better, IMO.

I've underlined the 5/30 who are in or about the same range.

There might be 2-3 we could debate over ... but I think that mist of the rest are NOT as good as JD.

And then, lets get real ... BRO IS QUEBECOIS ... so @Ozymandias , he goes right to the top of the list ... well, maybe below Savard and Huberdeau ... who are also Quebecois! Ostie!

 

[BLONG7]

A 26 year old with nearly 400 games played and 232 points (so, scoring at higher than 0.5 ppg) is not panning out? 33 playoff games with 21 points (0.64 ppg).

This included being asked to play a position he hadn't played since junior ...

People seem to think that if you are drafted in the first round, you should be a Crosby, a McDavid, or a McKinnen.

Drouin is already a success. Yes, we wanted him to be the next Lafleur ... but perhaps our expectations were too high, and perhaps we are jumping the gun. I personally think that Drouin will likely have a good season. Don't know what was up with him this year, but if it is behind him, I could see him playing well on one of the top two lines.

Drouin is already a success.............OK, sure.
The Bergevin, School of lowering the bar has worked wonders here....
My only comment at this point, will be, we will agree to disagree...

 

[Bacchus1]

Drouin is already a success.............OK, sure.
The Bergevin, School of lowering the bar has worked wonders here....
My only comment at this point, will be, we will agree to disagree...

Compare him to the list of cohorts that were drafted 3rd overall posted above. Tell me ... with a straight face, that JD is clearly worse than ... lets say 70% of them ... which would be the vast majority ... go ahead. I dare yah! LOL

 

[BLONG7]

Compare him to the list of cohorts that were drafted 3rd overall posted above. Tell me ... with a straight face, that JD is clearly worse than ... lets say 70% of them ... which would be the vast majority ... go ahead. I dare yah! LOL

Sorry man, we are going to agree to disagree..............compare your boy to ALL the guys drafted 3OA the last 12-15 years, not just the guys drafted by the Habs.
Your standards are in line with MB...not the rest of the league.

 

[Bacchus1]

Sorry man, we are going to agree to disagree..............compare your boy to ALL the guys drafted 3OA the last 12-15 years, not just the guys drafted by the Habs.
Your standards are in line with MB...not the rest of the league.

This is 3rd overall from each draft year over the last 33 years, for your info. If you want to burry your head in the sand, go for it.

2013	Jonathan Drouin	LW	Halifax (QMJHL)	Tampa Bay Lightning
2012	Alex Galchenyuk	C	Sarnia (OHL)	Montreal Canadiens
2011	Jonathan Huberdeau	C/LW	Saint John (QMJHL)	Florida Panthers
2010	Erik Gudbranson	D	Kingston (OHL)	Florida Panthers
2009	Matt Duchene	C	Brampton (OHL)	Colorado Avalanche
2008	Zach Bogosian	D	Peterborough (OHL)	Atlanta Thrashers
2007	Kyle Turris	C	Burnaby (BCHL)	Phoenix Coyotes
2006	Jonathan Toews	C	North Dakota (WCHA)	Chicago Blackhawks
2005	Jack Johnson	D	U.S. Junior National Team (Intl)	Carolina Hurricanes
2004	Cam Barker	D	Medicine Hat Tigers (WHL)	Chicago Blackhawks
2003	Nathan Horton	C	Oshawa Generals (OHL)	Florida Panthers
2002	Jay Bouwmeester	D	Medicine Hat Tigers (WHL)	Florida Panthers
2001	Alexandr Svitov	C	Omsk Avangard (Russia)	Tampa Bay Lightning
2000	Marian Gaborik	LW	Dukla Trencin (Slovak)	Minnesota Wild
1999	Henrik Sedin	C	Modo Hockey Ornskoldsvik (SEL)	Vancouver Canucks
1998	Brad Stuart	D	Regina Pats (WHL)	San Jose Sharks
1997	Olli Jokinen	C	HIFK Helsinki (FNL)	Los Angeles Kings
1996	J.P. Dumont	RW	Val-d'Or Foreurs (QMJHL)	New York Islanders
1995	Aki-Petteri Berg	D	TPS Jrs. (Finland)	Los Angeles Kings
1994	Radek Bonk	C	Las Vegas Thunder (IHL)	Ottawa Senators
1993	Chris Gratton	C	Kingston Frontenacs (OHL)	Tampa Bay Lightning
1992	Mike Rathje	D	Medicine Hat Tigers (WHL)	San Jose Sharks
1991	Scott Niedermayer	D	Kamloops Blazers (WHL)	New Jersey Devils
1990	Keith Primeau	C	Niagara-Falls Thunder (OHL)	Detroit Red Wings
1989	Scott Thornton	C	Belleville Bulls (OHL)	Toronto Maple Leafs
1988	Curtis Leschyshyn	D	Saskatoon Blades (WHL)	Quebuc Nordiques
1987	Glen Wesley	D	Portland Winter Hawks (WHL)	Boston Bruins
1986	Neil Brady	C	Medicine Hat Tigers (WHL)	New Jersey Devils
1985	Craig Wolanin	D	Kitchener Rangers (OHL)	New Jersey Devils
1984	Ed Olczyk	C	U.S. National Team (Intl)	Chicago Blackhawks
1983	Pat LaFontaine	C	Verdun Juniors (QMJHL)	New York Islanders
1981	Bobby Carpenter	C	St. John's Prep [Mass H.S.]	Washington Capitals
1980	Denis Savard

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

 

[DAChampion]

Compare him to the list of cohorts that were drafted 3rd overall posted above. Tell me ... with a straight face, that JD is clearly worse than ... lets say 70% of them ... which would be the vast majority ... go ahead. I dare yah! LOL

The Habs didn't invest a third overall pick into Drouin.

They invested an advanced prospect.