LW Arthur Kaliyev (2019, 33rd, LAK)

[Artorius Horus T]

DeBrincat and Goldobin. They were both 6+ months older though.

Goldobin turned 17, October 7th
DeBrincat turned 17, December 18th

Kaliyev turned 17, June 26th., so both younger thou, not older.

 

[Josepho]

Goldobin turned 17, October 7th
DeBrincat turned 17, December 18th

Kaliyev turned 17, June 26th., so both younger thou, not older.

Goldobin and DeBrincat turned 18 in their draft years, not 17.

 

[Artorius Horus T]

Goldobin and DeBrincat turned 18 in their draft years, not 17.

Right. Yes. - that is correct.

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

I thought this was a very fair analysis of Kaliyev.

Pronman: Who's the most divisive prospect in this year's NHL...

 

[57special]

Sounds like no one has a clue what this guy is going to be. On the one hand he is Laine, the other, Sokolov.

Kieffer Bellows?

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

Sounds like no one has a clue what this guy is going to be. On the one hand he is Laine, the other, Sokolov.

Kieffer Bellows?

He has a way better offensive skill-set than Sokolov, and is not nearly as bad of a skater. He's not that similar to Bellows either.

On a team with little offensive talent, he has 51 assists in his U18 season. He's an all-around offensive player.

 

[Tim Wallach]

Also very limited viewings, but he was a beast when I saw him live this year. Not a constant play driver, but has a next level ability to control a zone offensively and bullish strength. He's very aware of his surroundings and how to make the best decision quickly.

 

[McDNicks17]

He has a way better offensive skill-set than Sokolov, and is not nearly as bad of a skater. He's not that similar to Bellows either.

On a team with little offensive talent, he has 51 assists in his U18 season. He's an all-around offensive player.

I feel like there's a huge under-appreciation for how much his overall offensive game has improved this season.

He isn't just a trigger man anymore.

 

[Mrb1p]

The best part of his game is how he keeps every play alive in the offensive zone, signs of great IQ.

 

[AmericanDream]

of course he scores the only damn goal for Hamilton tonight so far in round 1...lol

 

[danktopshelf]

If this kid is available after 10 it's an absolute steal

 

[Michoulicious]

The guy will be a lot like Laine, but on the right circle instead of the left on the PP.

These guys don't bring much of anything (no speed, no defensive game, no hustle, medium hockey IQ), but are still extremely valuable because they can put in on the net efficiently.

Could be the kind of player to put 25 goals on his rookie season just by one-timing it on the PP.

 

[57special]

He, Caufield, and Podkolzin seem like players that you might look like an idiot for picking, or might look like an idiot for not picking.

 

[wings5]

The guy will be a lot like Laine, but on the right circle instead of the left on the PP.

These guys don't bring much of anything (no speed, no defensive game, no hustle, medium hockey IQ), but are still extremely valuable because they can put in on the net efficiently.

Could be the kind of player to put 25 goals on his rookie season just by one-timing it on the PP.

I think Laine is just lazy because he's had early success and his attitude is just to score.

 

[lanky]

I think there should be fewer Laine name drops in this thread and more Wahlstrom name drops.

 

[Mrb1p]

He, Caufield, and Podkolzin seem like players that you might look like an idiot for picking, or might look like an idiot for not picking.

Ill add Dach to this

 

[57special]

Ill add Dach to this

Really? He seems way more safe of a pick.

 

[Mrb1p]

Really? He seems way more safe of a pick.

Safe, yes. But I struggle to pinpoint his potential. Some days I go "This kid is going to be the best player in the league." And other days I go "Hes basically Lars Eller."

 

[57special]

Safe, yes. But I struggle to pinpoint his potential. Some days I go "This kid is going to be the best player in the league." And other days I go "Hes basically Lars Eller."

Got it...those guys scare me, but i always keep in mind that Draisaitl was being talked about the same way as recently as a few months ago. The ultimate guy for that was Kent Nilsson, AKA, "The Magic Man". I was never sure if he was named that because of the almost magical skills he had, or his ability to disappear during games.

 

[OKOptimistic]

Bleacher Report has him at #11 yet Sportingnews has him as low as #25

 

[AmericanDream]

Bleacher Report has him at #11 yet Sportingnews has him as low as #25

Button has him 12th I believe and Bobby Mac 13th from his scout list...both have had Kaliyev ranked very high most of this year..ISS has had him the lowest at 31st for much of the year, but bumped him to 28th last week..

 

[McDNicks17]

I think one of the biggest mistakes scouts make is looking at weaknesses in a vacuum. They don't actually consider if those weaknesses are going to limit the player's strengths at the next level.

If you draft Kaliyev, you're drafting him for his goal scoring and ability in the offensive zone. Average skating and a lack of hustle/ability in the defensive end isn't going to limit that.

I'm pretty confident Kaliyev is going to go around 10th-20th. There's no way he goes near the end of the 1st or outside the 1st like some media/amateur draft sites(who often fall into the above pitfall) have him ranked.

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

I think there should be fewer Laine name drops in this thread and more Wahlstrom name drops.

He's a much better playmaker with a much better hockey IQ. Size and skating effectiveness are similar, but Wahlstrom is a faster skater whose skating plays down because of his effort level, while Kaliyev's skating plays up. I also don't think Kaliyev's shot is all that close to Wahlstrom's, despite being pretty good.

 

[ViktorBaeArvidsson]

I like Kaliyev. If Nashville is able to get him I might have an heart attack. I doubt that though, I think unless Edmonton wins the lotto, they could end up taking him, another hopeful skilled winger for McDavid or Draisaitl.

 

[GetFocht]

Not a fan of his game, his skating is atrocious and needs a center that can drive the play.