Prospect Info: Logan Mailloux Part 3 The Only Hockey Talk Thread

[SnapVirus]

Francis Bouillon who is a developpmement coach for the Habs said on the radio that Mailloux is our closest prospect to play im the NHL.

And people here says he wont be playing for 2 years.

 

[WeThreeKings]

Francis Bouillon who is a developpmement coach for the Habs said on the radio that Mailloux is our closest prospect to play im the NHL.

And people here says he wont be playing for 2 years.

Yeah cause we've watched him play defense and make questionable reads.

I don't know why Bouillon is thinking that because it's glaringly obvious to everyone who has watched him play. He's still very raw.

Could he score goals on a NHL PP today? Absolutely.. but if you guys have an issue with Barron, I don't know what to tell you re: Mailloux defensively.

 

[morhilane]

Francis Bouillon who is a developpmement coach for the Habs said on the radio that Mailloux is our closest prospect to play im the NHL.

And people here says he wont be playing for 2 years.

The Habs management concept of "NHL ready" isn't based on how well the kids play, but how physically ready they are.

Mailloux is physically ready for the NHL, but he can't play defense against junior players.

 

[ChesterNimitz]

Yeah cause we've watched him play defense and make questionable reads.

I don't know why Bouillon is thinking that because it's glaringly obvious to everyone who has watched him play. He's still very raw.

Could he score goals on a NHL PP today? Absolutely.. but if you guys have an issue with Barron, I don't know what to tell you re: Mailloux defensively.

In my position, I have to deal with a range of professional , collegiate and major junior level scouts. Some are on the ball, some intuitive if not visionary, some disinterested and some are, to be less than charitable, lazy. It’s a microcosm of the workforce in any industry. The reality is that some (most?) scouts lack the time to conduct a thorough analysis of most of the players they are assessing. They often rely on statistics and , like many here, get caught up in the prevailing consensus and fail to exercise independent, critical thought. There is no one here who is a greater booster of Mailloux’s potential. But there is no way that this kid is ready to play an immediate, impactful role in the NHL . I fully expect him to initially struggle with the speed and physicality of the AHL. I only hope that if Mailloux does indeed struggle during his initial sojourn in the AHL, those here who expect instant gratification, don’t start the inevitable process of throwing this fine young player under the bus.

One has to understand that Mailloux, despite his size, is not a physical player. Whether this is as a result of temperament, lack of conditioning or a self acknowledgment of the continuing fragility of his surgically repaired shoulder, I don’t know. But Mailloux is a finesse player who already possesses NHL level skills. The question is when will the other facets of his game catch up. I say: 2024/2025. I, and I suspect the team, would be delighted if I was wrong in this regard and that Mailloux’s ‘arrival’ occurred earlier than I am predicting.

 

[BehindTheTimes]

In my position, I have to deal with a range of professional , U Sports, CCAA, NCAA and major junior level scouts. Some are on the ball, some intuitive if not visionary, some disinterested and some are, to be less than charitable, lazy. It’s a microcosm of the workforce in any industry. The reality is that some (most?) scouts lack the time to conduct a thorough analysis of most of the players they are assessing. They often rely on statistics and , like many here, get caught up in the prevailing consensus and fail to exercise independent, critical thought. There is no one here who is a greater booster of Mailloux’s potential. But there is no way that this kid is ready to play an immediate, impactful role in the NHL . I fully expect him to initially struggle with the speed and physicality of the AHL. I only hope that if Mailloux does indeed struggle during his initial sojourn in the AHL, those here who expect instant gratification, don’t start the inevitable process of throwing this fine young player under the bus.

One has to understand that Mailloux, despite his size, is not a physical player. Whether this is as a result of temperament, lack of conditioning or a self acknowledgment of the continuing fragility of his surgically repaired shoulder, I don’t know. But Mailloux is a finesse player who already possesses NHL level skills. The question is when will the other facets of his game catch up. I say: 2024/2025. I, and I suspect the team, would be delighted if I was wrong in this regard and that Mailloux’s ‘arrival’ occurred earlier than I am predicting.

Can’t disagree with you here.

 

[Gainesvillain]

We dodged a bullet not drafting Shane Wright. Perennial playoff no-show.

Mailloux v Mesar playoff matchup incoming.

4 pts for Logan tonite in the series-clinching win.

 

[BehindTheTimes]

It doesn't matter, man. Let it go. Clean slate.

Naw, when someone claims they were critical of someone when their history says otherwise I will call it out.

Jaffy is an awesome poster, but he supports management until the end. There is nothing wrong with that.

 

[Gainesvillain]

One has to understand that Mailloux, despite his size, is not a physical player. Whether this is as a result of temperament, lack of conditioning or a self acknowledgment of the continuing fragility of his surgically repaired shoulder, I don’t know. But Mailloux is a finesse player who already possesses NHL level skills.

I had the chance to watch Logan a fair bit while he played for Sun County & his brief stint with the Nationals. He was much more physical & nasty when younger. But his positional play was also bad & defensive IQ naturally low. I really believe that he is trying hard to play a cerebral game - probably under pressure from coaches and maybe Habs development staff - I don't know. He's trying to play a pro-style game & concentrate on puck-movement and good defensive reads. I fully expect that one day, when he's fully confident, he will establish himself as a physical beast. It's in him. I don't *think* it's his shoulder. I think he's being a good pupil.

 

[Matthew McConaughay]

 

[Scriptor]

Lots of talk about Hutson but I think Mailloux has better potential in the NHL. Big, rightie, nasty, lot to like. He just need to learn how to play in his zone better.

So does Hutson.

 

[Scriptor]

I'm really high on Mailloux aswell. Hutson have oustanding offensive potential, but Mailloux can be a two-way beast if he improve his defense. He can hit like Guhle aswell, he have all things to dominate at NHL level.

Hutson and Mailloux are the most promising D since Guhle. If all 3 reach their potential, Habs have a solid top 3 for many years to come. Don't forget about Harris (can be traded one day), Barron, Xhekaj and more.

Engstrom looks very very intriguing aswell!

That else are you taking (to be high)?

Not until he learns defence. It’s nice to have a big shot, but there’s nothing else that he brings that is particularly special. Let’s hope they let him stay in the AHL for 1-2 years and not rush him.

I agree about rushing him, but not about your depiction of ùmailloux simply as a D with a big shot. It's disingenuous. Absolutely.

 

[Scriptor]

With only 60 games in the OHL and questionable stamina levels after almost two years of inactivity, Mailloux will play in the AHL next year and even that step up in competition will require a period of adjustment. Those thinking that Mailloux will play in the NHL next year haven’t been watching him closely this year. He’s an intriguing prospect and will ultimately play in the NHL, and play well, but not next year.

The Cube (Bouillon) seems to think he might play in the NHL next season, but I think the right side is so shallow in depth that this is why Bouillon thinks there is a chance.

Then Struble would bench press Mailloux while Mailloux is benching his maximum.

And Strobe could pull that off with Bergevin drooling all over him...

 

[Scriptor]

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Both picks were the proverbial ‘swings for the fences’ at the time. If either player develops as projected (or hoped for) it will be a big boost for the fortunes of this team. If both do, it will be transformational.

Couldn't have said that better myself.

Caufield was a lucky catch at 15 (boo-hoo to those who have size issues), Mailloux was a stupid/gutsy move (terrorist/freedom fighter, depends on the perspective) and Hutson was another swing for center field bleachers, for sure.

You need to hit with some of those chance picks and still land your first round picks to hope to compete for a Cup one day.

 

[PecnoTrunk]

Lots of talk about Hutson but I think Mailloux has better potential in the NHL. Big, rightie, nasty, lot to like. He just need to learn how to play in his zone better.

I think you are correct

Mailloux Guhl and maybe Barron are our future

We will see about Hutson.

 

[bcv]

We dodged a bullet not drafting Shane Wright. Perennial playoff no-show.

Mailloux v Mesar playoff matchup incoming.

4 pts for Logan tonite in the series-clinching win.

Too early to say the Habs dodged a bullet. Slaf hasn’t showed much more.

 

[Sam de Mtl]

Too early to say the Habs dodged a bullet. Slaf hasn’t showed much more.

Dodge a bullet, get hit by another one.

 

[ChesterNimitz]

Too early to say the Habs dodged a bullet. Slaf hasn’t showed much more.

The point is that Slafkovsky’s upside is significantly higher than that of Wright’s. It remains to be seen if Slafkovsky can reach a level of impactful play that Wright never will.

 

[tnq]

The point is that Slafkovsky’s upside is significantly higher than that of Wright’s. It remains to be seen if Slafkovsky can reach a level of impactful play that Wright never will.

Wright is a younger Drouin

 

[ChesterNimitz]

Wright is a younger Drouin

There’s a Wright or two in every draft. Beware of the consensus. It can bite you in the ass.

 

[ReHabs]

The point is that Slafkovsky’s upside is significantly higher than that of Wright’s. It remains to be seen if Slafkovsky can reach a level of impactful play that Wright never will.

Slaf’s downside is significantly lower than Wright’s too. That’s the problem.

Cooley looks better than both of them now — the biggest problem.

 

[Kojo]

Slaf’s downside is significantly lower than Wright’s too. That’s the problem.

Cooley looks better than both of them now — the biggest problem.

You can't help it you have to complain about Slaf even in the Mailloux thread.

 

[ChesterNimitz]

Slaf’s downside is significantly lower than Wright’s too. That’s the problem.

Cooley looks better than both of them now — the biggest problem.

To some, Cooley clearly looked better than both before the draft. Perhaps that denotes a bigger problem.

 

[Schooner Guy]

Slaf’s downside is significantly lower than Wright’s too. That’s the problem.

Cooley looks better than both of them now — the biggest problem.

Glad we're comparing an 18 year old in the NHL to an 18 year old in the NCAA.

In the Mailloux thread.

 

[ReHabs]

Glad we're comparing an 18 year old in the NHL to an 18 year old in the NCAA.

In the Mailloux thread.

It’s the general conversation — Slaf was a more high-risk high-reward pick than Wright. Don’t be so sensitive, there is no flame war.

Mailloux is similarly a high-reward pick (putting aside his legal/reputation issue) — he’s got all the physical tools already.

 

[BLONG7]

There is zero reason.............to rush LM to the NHL, zero.
This kid would benefit greatly to a year in the AHL.......we have right shot Dmen ready to go for next year, why would they rush him? Developing him slowly, with a year of the A under his belt would make more sense.