Post-Game Talk: Leafs lose in OT

[Hockey 4 Life]

Would like to see Holmberg up at 4c and kampf at 3c.

 

[ChadBigly]

As a group, there is no killer instinct. It is not something you learn imo. You either have it or you don't. And these guys don't.

It's plenty learnable. And it's plenty teachable. They just never learn it.

 

[BrannigansLaw]

And what does this show exactly? Matthews likes to go on vacations?

Wow, great post.

 

[Americanadian]

I can't wait till new guys are in charge of the team. I just don't enjoy the product anymore.

This is the best way to put it. It’s simply a non entertaining entertainment product.

 

[MattySnipes]

Do you think another coach will help? I know Trotz resumé but...at what point do we point our finger at the core of players and the leadership issues?

We can't keep switching coaches every few years the boys get bored or something.

 

[BallardEra]

Anyone blame the refs yet? I’ll go with that one.

 

[Martin Skoula]

Where? You saw talent during that game?

They couldn't hit the net or complete simple passes. They can barely keep posession and when they do it amount to a nothing chance or a broken play

If they were half as talented as people pretend they are they'd be 7-1 right now. They're doing the right things it just looks like they ate some brownies before the game and everyone is 2 seconds out of sync.

 

[BrannigansLaw]

Do you think another coach will help? I know Trotz resumé but...at what point do we point our finger at the core of players and the leadership issues?

We can't keep switching coaches every few years the boys get bored or something.

Can’t really do anything about the core during the season. Need to try to salvage it while it’s still young.

 

[Gilmour1996]

They look like they're playing to get the coach fired.

 

[killer1980]

And what does this show exactly? Matthews likes to go on vacations?

Wow, great post.

I was responding to a poster who wondered what these guys did to prepare for the season. This is what they did.

 

[Jimmy Firecracker]

I am so sick and tired of these idiots talking the talk and then not walking the walk when it comes to showing up against bad teams. Either change or shut the f*** up.

You'd think after 6 years here they'd understand that teams get up to play the Maple Leafs due to exposure and a widespread general dislike of the franchise, yet every time they come out of the gate looking like shit and act surprised when the other team tries.

 

[2 Slick]

In 16 career games in the NHL, Kallgren is .884%, 3.32 GAA, that spells loads of confidence, doesn’t it? I just don’t see anything in him that tells me he’s ever going to be anything more than a fifth stringer in the AHL, he’s terrible in every sense of the word.

Fault, no fault, it’s hard to win games when your goaltender can’t stop a puck.

 

[Kurtz]

Do you think another coach will help? I know Trotz resumé but...at what point do we point our finger at the core of players and the leadership issues?

We can't keep switching coaches every few years the boys get bored or something.

An average NHL coach lasts 2.5 seasons. Keefe has already surpassed this mark - it's not like we're changing coaches every year. He's been given plenty of chances, and this group is no better today than it was under him when he started.

Babs wasn't fit to coach anymore. We replaced him with a rookie coach, that was a swing and a miss. Now probably the best coach in the NHL is on the market and wants to coach here - we should jump at this rare opportunity, period.

If Trotz can't make it work here, then we'll know it's not the coach, and it's time to address the core.

 

[killer1980]

In 16 career games in the NHL, Kallgren is .884%, 3.32 GAA, that spells loads of confidence, doesn’t it? I just don’t see anything in him that tells me he’s ever going to be anything more than a fifth stringer in the AHL, he’s terrible in every sense of the word.

Fault, no fault, it’s hard to win games when your goaltender can’t stop a puck.

This was supposed to be an easy win. For the Sharks it was relatively easy. The Leafs were lucky for 1 point, no fault of the goalie. It was a team effort.

 

[Kurtz]

Btw, what this team really needed was a season or two of Torts. Off course Dubas would never hire a guy like that, but Trotz should be more palatable for his sensibilities (and a longer-term solution).

 

[alliuk12]

Oh sh—it this team suck big time haven’t watched a game this year and it’s a blessing I don’t. Wow they are pure garbage I love the leafs but I am not a lover of the pieces of sh- -it that dawns that beautiful jersey. they are not fit to be called toronto Maple Leafs players the real maple leaf players had guts and self esteem something these players know nothing about. Well that’s my rant for this year 67 years a leafs fan and I will never be anytthing but a leafs fan. Got to love them

 

[MattySnipes]

An average NHL coach lasts 2.5 seasons. Keefe has already surpassed this mark - it's not like we're changing coaches every year. He's been given plenty of chances, and this group is no better today than it was under him when he started.

Babs wasn't fit to coach anymore. We replaced him with a rookie coach, that was a swing and a miss. Now probably the best coach in the NHL is on the market and wants to coach here - we should jump at this rare opportunity, period.

If Trotz can't make it work here, then we'll know it's not the coach, and it's time to address the core.

I don't mind. When Leafs not scoring goals, there isn't much else tbh. Maybe Trotz can round the team into a more complete team.

 

[Ianturnedbull]

My God.

Making the playoffs might actually be their goal this season.

 

[dubey]

Now lets hear our loser coach talk about a moral victory vs the worst team in the league.

We are grown men -Mitch Marner

 

[capfit9]

Btw, what this team really needed was a season or two of Torts. Off course Dubas would never hire a guy like that, but Trotz should be more palatable for his sensibilities (and a longer-term solution).

But don't you know we'll be talking about Keefe like we talk about Trotz in 15 - 20 years says the self-appointed out of the box thinker

 

[BertCorbeau]

I mean we've seen slow starts before and this group rounds into form

Problem is, this is more of the same script we've seen which has led to complete playoff failure.

Hard to get excited about the team as a whole.

 

[SeaOfBlue]

Where? You saw talent during that game?

They couldn't hit the net or complete simple passes. They can barely keep posession and when they do it amount to a nothing chance or a broken play

Been the problem the entire year.

And then how do the players/coaches really respond to that? Yeah, we need to be able to do basic ****.

At least the 4th line was significantly better. That is a start. Engvall - Kampf are really good together, and ZAR had his best game as a Leaf too.

3rd line had their moments, but like the top line, needed to convert more often. I would still like to see Kerfoot - Jarnkrok - Malgin for a game.

 

[PROUD PAPA]

I don't know about having Sandin and Tavares out together 3 vs 3. Easier to work around one slowpoke at a time.

Whatever it's going to take to motivate these guys to earn wins needs to happen asap. When the schedule came out i thought we'd get off to a strong start to the season and here we are with 4 wins in 8 games and a beat up D.

 

[jiggy35]

It's hard to blame goalies for breakaways, but what on earth was Kallgren doing? He backed up so deep he was basically on the goal line, while Karlsson makes a dreadfully slow, off balance backhand forehand move inches in front of his face without even attempting any sort of poke check.

That was hilariously dreadful goaltending, he looked like a Jr B tender on that one.

None the less, the entire team is to blame for losing to a team as terrible as the San Jose Sharks, these guys are bad.

Agreed, even on first goal. Kallgren deserves no exception to the criticism. Goalies nowadays seem anemic to the poke check, but that is just timid (p***y) shit by Kallgren. Rest of team also timid p***yes.

 

[IPS]

Agreed, even on first goal. Kallgren deserves no exception to the criticism. Goalies nowadays seem anemic to the poke check, but that is just timid (p***y) shit by Kallgren. Rest of team also timid p***yes.

He's a career AHL'er.

We acquired a goalies in the offseason but the main one we acquired was an injury prone mess. And he got injured after 1 game.

I don't see much point in blaming Kallgren, he shouldn't be playing to begin with.