LD Olli Juolevi - TPS, Liiga (2016, 5th, VAN)

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Juolevi-Chychrun is the Ristolainen-Nurse -debate all over again. Chychrun has the better tools (Nurse) but Juolevi is easily the smarter player just like Ristolainen was. Obviously the physical monster has better ceiling so he might get drafted first but the team drafting the smarter guy is going to come out as a winner from all of this. I think Juolevi has much more room to grow and improve.
 
Juolevi-Chychrun is the Ristolainen-Nurse -debate all over again. Chychrun has the better tools (Nurse) but Juolevi is easily the smarter player just like Ristolainen was. Obviously the physical monster has better ceiling so he might get drafted first but the team drafting the smarter guy is going to come out as a winner from all of this. I think Juolevi has much more room to grow and improve.

Chychrun could also turn out like Ekblad, that's why you take the chance.
 
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Juolevi-Chychrun is the Ristolainen-Nurse -debate all over again. Chychrun has the better tools (Nurse) but Juolevi is easily the smarter player just like Ristolainen was. Obviously the physical monster has better ceiling so he might get drafted first but the team drafting the smarter guy is going to come out as a winner from all of this. I think Juolevi has much more room to grow and improve.

It's different, you're just forcing an analogy. Ristolainen is a beast physically aswell so it wasn't as simplified as you make it sound. Per usual the smarter guy has the higher ceiling and has more physique to grow into than someone who's already great physically but lacks the NHL-smarts.

example from another thread:
Dean Lombardi mentioned this sort of thing as one of the reasons they opted for Drew Doughty over Zach Bogosian. Both guys were dominant in the OHL during their draft years and Lombardi admitted that Bogosian's combine was much more impressive than Doughty's. But they did like Doughty and reasoned that if he could dominate while being out of shape that he could get better under an NHL training regimen.

By your logic Sean Day should've still been a top 10 pick (atleast by the start of the season).

Either way Ristolainen was always more than big enough for the NHL
 
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What are the odds for Finland to get Juolevi in U18 WJC's.?
MTV sport hockey published an article of possible additions for Finland's U18 WJC team and Juolevi belongs those players what Finland waits their tournament roster.
 
What are the odds for Finland to get Juolevi in U18 WJC's.?
MTV sport hockey published an article of possible additions for Finland's U18 WJC team and Juolevi belongs those players what Finland waits their tournament roster.

Very unlikely. The Knights (his junior team) are currently in the playoffs. Even if the Knights were swept (which I doubt they will be), then the last game would be April 14 (which is the same day U18 starts) - and I think it's unlikely he would immediately leave for ND.
 
The more you hear about Juolevi, the more you like this dman.

Arguably the WJC’s top defenseman, it was a coming out party for Juolevi earlier this month. His offensive abilities are well-known, but few realized just how complete a defenseman Juolevi already is. Reads the play well, makes great passes, and knows when to join the rush. Makes a good first pass, and has solid positioning in the defensive zone.

“A competitive spark-plug, Olli Juolevi is a complete, all-around defenceman that can hem the opposition in their own end or make things difficult for the opposition at home; either way, he puts the pressure on and lays it on thick. A strong and balanced skater, he can rush the puck through the neutral zone with ease or backcheck with haste. Uses his size to his advantage, but knows his physical limits and plays within them. Instead of playing overly physical, he makes his presence felt by exhibiting his high-end playmaking ability and puck possession play. All-in-all, a well-rounded blueliner who thrives under pressure and can be trusted in all situations.†[Curtis Joe]

“Very sturdily built D-man that leans into his hits, competes hard, and possesses elite-level vision and hockey sense. Looks stronger game-by-game and adapts very quickly to his surroundings and situations. Scouts liken Olli Juolevi to Olli Maatta of the Pittsburgh Penguins. Both are fluid skaters and have deep-rooted understandings of their position. Both have tremendous skill and talent, and both will go far in their careers.†[Elite Prospects]

http://toomanymenonthesite.com/2016/04/17/2016-nhl-mock-draft-4-0-rounds-1-7/2/
 
The more you hear about Juolevi, the more you like this dman.

“Very sturdily built D-man that leans into his hits". This is the part I don't agree with. He is quite lanky and I have never seem him lean into a hit. Nonetheless a great prospect.
 
The more you hear about Juolevi, the more you like this dman.

Ok to the "London fans" who have seen both play over large sample sizes how does Juolevi compare to Maatta in their draft years?
 
"Both are fluid skaters and have deep-rooted understandings of their position."

That's the part I didn't quite understand. I thought Maatta's skating was his main weakness currently.
 
Ok to the "London fans" who have seen both play over large sample sizes how does Juolevi compare to Maatta in their draft years?

Yeah, I'd love to hear an educated opinion too.
From everything I've read he does sound quite Määttä-ish, and I've heard the comparison being thrown around semi-often. Is it because they're both Finnish defensemen that play(ed) in the OHL in their draft year, or are they really that similar stylistically?
 
“Very sturdily built D-man that leans into his hits". This is the part I don't agree with. He is quite lanky and I have never seem him lean into a hit. Nonetheless a great prospect.

Ya, if anything the physical/hitting side is the main "weak" part of his game. I find he's not particularly strong yet either, but that's probably the easiest thing a player (especially a tall one) can improve on.
 
I'm a knights fan and I think Juolevi is average at best. His intelligence is way over blown as is his passing ability. He makes as many bone headed plays as any defenseman on the team. He's been replace on the power play with bouchard, who brings more offense and a bigger shot. I would be very happy to see a leafs rival draft him.
 
I'm a knights fan and I think Juolevi is average at best. His intelligence is way over blown as is his passing ability. He makes as many bone headed plays as any defenseman on the team. He's been replace on the power play with bouchard, who brings more offense and a bigger shot. I would be very happy to see a leafs rival draft him.

Agreed. I don't like Juolevi at all. Overhyped because of a few WJC games on a good team. Anyone expecting him to be a top pairing D prospect is going to regret the pick unless he somehow becomes a lot better next year.
 
Agreed. I don't like Juolevi at all. Overhyped because of a few WJC games on a good team. Anyone expecting him to be a top pairing D prospect is going to regret the pick unless he somehow becomes a lot better next year.

Is Juolevi eligible to play in OHL next year if he doesn't make NHL team?
Example Julius Honka assigned to Texas Stars when he didn't make Dallas Stars NHL roster in autumn 2014.
 
Juolevi-Chychrun is the Ristolainen-Nurse -debate all over again. Chychrun has the better tools (Nurse) but Juolevi is easily the smarter player just like Ristolainen was. Obviously the physical monster has better ceiling so he might get drafted first but the team drafting the smarter guy is going to come out as a winner from all of this. I think Juolevi has much more room to grow and improve.

Yeah Chychrun vs Juolevi is one of the toughest to gauge on whose going to have the better NHL career.
 
I'm a knights fan and I think Juolevi is average at best. His intelligence is way over blown as is his passing ability. He makes as many bone headed plays as any defenseman on the team. He's been replace on the power play with bouchard, who brings more offense and a bigger shot. I would be very happy to see a leafs rival draft him.

I've repeated this multiple times on these board and people just brush it off because he's ranked as the 2nd best dman. I watched him this whole year too and its exactly as you said. It says a lot that a rookie like Bouchard can come in and replace him on the leagues top pp unit. Honestly, I'd be shocked if he becomes anything more than a 3/4 dman, leaning closer to four at the nhl level.
 
I've repeated this multiple times on these board and people just brush it off because he's ranked as the 2nd best dman. I watched him this whole year too and its exactly as you said. It says a lot that a rookie like Bouchard can come in and replace him on the leagues top pp unit. Honestly, I'd be shocked if he becomes anything more than a 3/4 dman, leaning closer to four at the nhl level.

Agreed. Pretty unremarkable year for dmen in this year's draft IMO.
 
So is this years draft so bad that a TOP 10 pick is average at best? Either there is big underestimating of him or I've got it all wrong and thought he was gonna be a good player. Im confused.:help:
 
Agreed. Pretty unremarkable year for dmen in this year's draft IMO.

Agreed, Sergachev might be the best of the top 3 D in this draft.

This might be a weird draft year where a Dman taken in the 2nd/3rd round ends up the best Dman in the draft.
 
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