Value of: Laine, off season trade (mod warning OP)

[VijayPatel11]

An established 1C under 25 years old. Do you need more clarity?

A 1C for 10 goal Patrik Laine??

 

[TaketheCannoli]

A 1C for 10 goal Patrik Laine??

That's not exactly accurate. I said established 1 C wh is under 25. If you don't like that, don't make an offer, because that's what it will take.

 

[VijayPatel11]

That's not exactly accurate. I said established 1 C wh is under 25. If you don't like that, don't make an offer, because that's what it will take.

In what world is current Patrik Laine worth a young 1C

 

[AveryStar4Eva]

The issue with Laine at the moment is you can get that caliber player for 7.5M as a UFA and not have to give up assets. So as a GM you have to bet on his potential when he already hasn’t worked out on two teams and give up the appropriate assets to get him

 

[McJedi]

I think Laine could find his game again if he played with either MacKinnon or Rantanen.

Dude. I could find my game playing with those two. That’s the NHLs 2nd best player and maybe it’s 12th best player.

 

[TaketheCannoli]

In what world is current Patrik Laine worth a young 1C

It doesn't matter what you think. That's the cost. You look like a Florida fan. Make a proposal that include Barkov. As an example:

To Columbus

Barkov

To Florida

Laine
Lightning 1st 2021

 

[VijayPatel11]

It doesn't matter what you think. That's the cost. You look like a Florida fan. Make a proposal that include Barkov. As an example:

To Columbus

Barkov

To Florida

Laine
Lightning 1st 2021

The point of trading for Laine would be to improve our team, not to massively downgrade

 

[Viqsi]

In what world is current Patrik Laine worth a young 1C

The world in which we don't trade him unless we get what we need.

I think we'd be able to settle for a top-6 C slightly short of that standard, myself, but mine is one of the more conciliatory positions. No, really.

 

[majormajor]

And despite that talent you’re taking about, your team is at the basement of the league. I find it hard to believe that all CBJ needs is a top 6 C and everything will be alright again. Injuries play a part too but at some point you have to be realistic. 4 first round picks in a deep draft can do a lot for CBJ

Who knows. Maybe some fresh coaching and some health luck would be enough and you don't even need new centers. The Jackets haven't played like a team for most of the year and have been missing big chunks of the roster. There's plenty of room for improvement because the team has been so much less than the sum of their parts.

For further context - the Jackets were one of the better 5v5 teams in the league last year, about 52% xGF% and 51% GF%. This year they're way way down to 46% xGF% and 41% GF%. What accounts for this? I see lots of room for immediate improvement.

 

[Viqsi]

The point of trading for Laine would be to improve our team, not to massively downgrade

Understandable. The same is also true - for our team - of the point of trading Laine at all.

 

[McJedi]

It doesn't matter what you think. That's the cost. You look like a Florida fan. Make a proposal that include Barkov. As an example:

To Columbus

Barkov

To Florida

Laine
Lightning 1st 2021

what? I’m at a loss here.

 

[domi28]

An established 1C under 25 years old. Do you need more clarity?

What NHL GM is going to be dumb enough to trade their young 1C for a 1 dimensional winger?

 

[BB88]

What NHL GM is going to be dumb enough to trade their young 1C for a 1 dimensional winger?

& as has the question been why should Columbus trade Laine for less today?

 

[Seph]

& as has the question been why should Columbus trade Laine for less today?

Coming off a season where he played at a 35 point pace, opposed to a season where he played at a 76 point pace. The very real possibility that no team will have a 1C under 25 demanding a trade this summer. Also, uncertainty of cost until an extension is signed while in a flat cap world. Not saying Columbus necessarily should trade him this summer, but am saying that if they do they are very unlikely to be able to get the same value for him as they paid.

 

[BB88]

Coming off a season where he played at a 35 point pace, opposed to a season where he played at a 76 point pace. The very real possibility that no team will have a 1C under 25 demanding a trade this summer. Also, uncertainty of cost until an extension is signed while in a flat cap world. Not saying Columbus necessarily should trade him this summer, but am saying that if they do they are very unlikely to be able to get the same value for him as they paid.

The point was Jarmo isn’t looking to trade Laine today.
He’s been after Laine since the draft and the entire team had an abysmal season, not just Laine.

They have 3 1st round picks, Laine/Werenski/Jones and most likely a new coach next year.
Let’s see what Jarmo can build around his franchise players

 

[Viqsi]

The point was Jarmo isn’t looking to trade Laine today.
He’s been after Laine since the draft and the entire team had an abysmal season, not just Laine.

They have 3 1st round picks, Laine/Werenski/Jones and most likely a new coach next year.
Let’s see what Jarmo can build around his franchise players

Beat me to it. You get a cookie.

 

[SuterHaglshev]

There's only one player that comes to mind and I don't want to mention the name because he's overkill and it makes absolutely no sense whatsoever for the Blackhawks, and those are the sorts of circumstances that can start flamewars.

Fair enough. I don't think you will get a 40G scorer at this point. But I totally respect you being wishful.

When reality sets in I'm not sure you will get a 25G scorer for Laine.

It's a precarious situation. I think you can still get 2 first round picks though.
The new team probably needs to be a BIG MARKET team considering he's more likely to stay.

Salary not sure what to pay him he doesn't deserve a raise. Alex Debrincat received 6.4 x 3 years. The new team probably would need to be 7.5 x 3 years. And he's playing like a 5.5 million dollar player.

 

[thrillermiller89]

Couture or Hertl

1 for 1

 

[Unbiased Fan]

Newhook and Donksoi for Laine

 

[McJedi]

Newhook and Donksoi for Laine

Hell no from the Avs.

 

[DanyHeatley]

An established 1C under 25 years old. Do you need more clarity?

How about actually name a player to be more precise? Need me to elaborate more?

 

[Viqsi]

Couture or Hertl

1 for 1

Hertl, sure. Couture's contract scares me too much.

 

[elitepete]

We're not trading him unless we get our major need (defensively-minded top-6 or even top-line center) filled. Otherwise, it makes infinitely more sense to QO him and see if we can get him rehabbed under new circumstances. Selling low would be potentially disastrous.

(Also, that "demotion to the 4th line" lasted for all of one shift.)

Miller for Laine was discussed between me and another CBJ fan. What do you think, Viqsi?

 

[cslebn]

Couture or Hertl

1 for 1

Is Hertl on the plane yet?

 

[Groo]

Couture or Hertl

1 for 1

Just stop