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The thing I like that Blake has done has actually given the kids a chance and not just made panic deals for vet Dman. He and Todd are letting the kids work through their games.

I’m amazed that 3rd line has been kept together as long as it has. They did the same thing though by letting Kupari play a bunch of games there as center at the beginning of the year. Injuries have helped but that’s what happens in sports.
 
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Anyone have the scoop on Wrobo leave of absence and subsequent resignation? seems like he was well liked and good at developing players.
 
Schrute farms beets said:
Just me, but I'm not trading Roy unless it's means we are bringing in a bigger, more physical LHD. Not just a big dude like MacDermid either -- I mean a guy who can actually play while also dishing out some physical punishment.
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We need to draft Lian Bichsel and develop him for a couple of years.
 
KingsFan7824 said:
Practice 3/25 - Kopitar, Bjornfot, Lemieux Notes + Defensive Dive, Danault's leadership, Durzi Quotes - LA Kings Insider



Bjornfot had a similar quote earlier in the year.

Now what is correct? Because the gist around here is that these coaches don't let anyone, especially rookies, do anything. Is it just the younger defensemen that are given the opportunity to take a chance? Is Durzi just trying to suck up to his boss? Do we look at things the wrong way?
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Totally incorrect analysis.

Durzi's entire game is risk. He isn't taking more or less chances because he has been coached a certain way - he was 13th on the depth chart for a reason. That reason being his game has far more mistakes in it than others. He is playing HIS brand of hockey here because there was no other choice, then low and behold he played well enough to cover his shortcomings.

There is no philosophy change here. They just ran out of their "safe" options and Durzi proved them wrong. Spence is a much more technically sound player with higher skill. He was below Durzi on the chart due to inexperience. Both look indispensable now, but don't forget they were behind Maatta, Clague, Wolanin, Strand AND Moverare just a few short months ago. Clague's technical game isn't that different from Durzi's, he just wasn't nearly as tenacious and they didn't take the risks with him because there was a line behind him.
 
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bland said:
Totally incorrect analysis.

Durzi's entire game is risk. He isn't taking more or less chances because he has been coached a certain way - he was 13th on the depth chart for a reason. That reason being his game has far more mistakes in it than others. He is playing HIS brand of hockey here because there was no other choice, then low and behold he played well enough to cover his shortcomings.

There is no philosophy change here. They just ran out of their "safe" options and Durzi proved them wrong. Spence is a much more technically sound player with higher skill. He was below Durzi on the chart due to inexperience. Both look indispensable now, but don't forget they were behind Maatta, Clague, Wolanin, Strand AND Moverare just a few short months ago. Clague's technical game isn't that different from Durzi's, he just wasn't nearly as tenacious and they didn't take the risks with him because there was a line behind him.
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Which has what to do with what Durzi said?

The team is where it is, and apparently they didn't kill the risk out of Durzi's game by forcing him to be as boring and safe. They've had more than enough time to do so. Is Durzi the one guy that gets to play HIS brand of hockey? Obviously they had more guys ahead of him, so why does he get to be special? Kaliyev wasn't supposed to be on the team either. Why make him play a non-scoring game, and not Durzi? Especially when you're down Doughty and Walker early in the year. Wouldn't that be when you want safe? When there's no blanket of protection? Just because of injury, Durzi gets to dictate how he plays?

Those are Durzi's words. Is he incorrect in his analysis? Why have two young guys, one of which was on the team with a spot locked up before the season started, said the same thing?
 
KingsFan7824 said:
Which has what to do with what Durzi said?

The team is where it is, and apparently they didn't kill the risk out of Durzi's game by forcing him to be as boring and safe. They've had more than enough time to do so. Is Durzi the one guy that gets to play HIS brand of hockey? Obviously they had more guys ahead of him, so why does he get to be special? Kaliyev wasn't supposed to be on the team either. Why make him play a non-scoring game, and not Durzi? Especially when you're down Doughty and Walker early in the year. Wouldn't that be when you want safe? When there's no blanket of protection? Just because of injury, Durzi gets to dictate how he plays?

Those are Durzi's words. Is he incorrect in his analysis? Why have two young guys, one of which was on the team with a spot locked up before the season started, said the same thing?
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My favorite part of that is where he says the Kings player is totally incorrect......lol
 
How soon can we fire Maatta to the moon? Id rather play the fan in section 121, row 13, seat 9 then see him in a Kings jersey ever.

Hoping we can find a goalie from our prospect pool or an upcoming draft. Love Quickie but hes in the twilight and not sure what to make of Petersen as “the” guy
 
KingsFan7824 said:
Which has what to do with what Durzi said?

The team is where it is, and apparently they didn't kill the risk out of Durzi's game by forcing him to be as boring and safe. They've had more than enough time to do so. Is Durzi the one guy that gets to play HIS brand of hockey? Obviously they had more guys ahead of him, so why does he get to be special? Kaliyev wasn't supposed to be on the team either. Why make him play a non-scoring game, and not Durzi? Especially when you're down Doughty and Walker early in the year. Wouldn't that be when you want safe? When there's no blanket of protection? Just because of injury, Durzi gets to dictate how he plays?

Those are Durzi's words. Is he incorrect in his analysis? Why have two young guys, one of which was on the team with a spot locked up before the season started, said the same thing?
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I am not talking about Durzi, I am talking about the last mess of a paragraph you added while trying to interpret what he said.

The players are the last ones worth listening to when it comes to these things. They have little perspective and cannot separate what happens on the ice and in the locker room from the decision making process in management. Durzi hasn't been given freedom, its the only way he knows how to play and the team had no choice but to promote him due to injury.

They didn't think he was ready, otherwise he would have been up months earlier - literally all available defensemen other than the rookie Spence were given a shot first because they were safer options. THAT is how this team thinks, safety first, risks as a last resort. How many of these skilled forwards may have actually produced if given the chance before they were blooded into this mindset? Wouldn't just ONE have made a difference?

And last night we saw the downside as Durzi was godawful, responsible for 4 goals against. The games before we saw the upside. That yo-yo effect is what management is trying to avoid, they want plug and play safe options that won't hurt their chances. My opinion is that wins and losses are totally irrelevant at this stage of a rebuild, the top priority must be player development and this team neuters offense out of these kids before it has the chance to develop. They must be allowed to work on their strengths as much as their weaknesses, which involves minutes in offensive situations with established offensive players.
 
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ru4reals said:
Forsberg would look fantastic in a Kings uniform. Not familiar with our cap situation but if Brown retires, IaFAILlo traded would we have enough to offer this guy. He might just cost too much but man would I love to have Philip Forsberg on our team.
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The Kings will have over $21M in cap space available this summer according to CapFriendly.
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Of course that number will come down once they re-sign their notable RFAs, such as Kempe, Lemieux, and Mikey Anderson, but they'll still have plenty of flexibility to make a significant addition, especially if they are able to move Iafallo this offseason.
 
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Ziggy Stardust said:
The Kings will have over $21M in cap space available this summer according to CapFriendly.
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Thank you for the amazing 9 years
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Of course that number will come down once they re-sign their notable RFAs, such as Kempe, Lemieux, and Mikey Anderson, but they'll still have plenty of flexibility to make a significant addition, especially if they are able to move Iafallo this offseason.
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That's f**ken fantastic. Assuming Forsberg doesn't mind coming here he'd be awesome. I don't think he's leaving the Preds personally, I'm sure they're going to give him a fat contract to stay. But who knows anything can happen. Maybe his countryman Arvi can give him a call and try to pry him away.
 
ru4reals said:
Forsberg would look fantastic in a Kings uniform. Not familiar with our cap situation but if Brown retires, IaFAILlo traded would we have enough to offer this guy. He might just cost too much but man would I love to have Philip Forsberg on our team.
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Word is he wants $9+ per… pretty sure we pass on that
 
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Ziggy Stardust said:
The Kings will have over $21M in cap space available this summer according to CapFriendly.
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Thank You - CapFriendly - NHL Salary Caps

Thank you for the amazing 9 years
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Of course that number will come down once they re-sign their notable RFAs, such as Kempe, Lemieux, and Mikey Anderson, but they'll still have plenty of flexibility to make a significant addition, especially if they are able to move Iafallo this offseason.
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What does Kempe's contract look like? Do you think it starts with a 6?
 
If Forsberg is too expensive, I still think we take a look at Kevin Fiala. Seems all but certain Minnesota moves him to stay under the cap.
 
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Since our last cup, LA's top rookie seasons by points-per-game (I chose 28 games played as my cut off, which roughly equates to a third of a season) are:

1. Adrian Kempe, 2017-18: 81gp, 16g, 21a, 0.46 p/gp
2. Sean Durzi , 2021-22: 50gp, 3g, 20a, 0.46 p/gp
3. Gabe Vilardi, 2020-21: 54gp, 10g, 13a, 0.43 p/gp
4. Tanner Pearson, 2014-15: 42gp, 12g, 4a, 0.38 p/gp
5. Blake Lizotte, 2019-20: 65gp, 6g, 17a, 0.35 p/gp
6. Arthur Kaliyev, 2021-22: 67gp, 13g, 10a, .34 p/gp

Austin Wagner, Matt Luff, Alex Iafallo, and Nikolai Prokhorkin round out the top 10.
 
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there's a offer sheet kappo kakko thread..$4.1M would cost a 2nd.
he has not shown that he should have been taken where he was, but i was big on him that draft year. Would be a funny move IMO.
 
Filip Forsberg would be an enticing add but you probably don't want to go after a guy who has a massive season just as his contract is up. You'll end up paying for his best season when he's unlikely to ever match it.
 
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Can see the kings being in on forsberg but will miss out. Would be happy with Reilly smith, trocheck as a backup. Nobody enticing on the defensive end
 
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