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Rumor: 2024-2025 Trade Rumors and Free Agency Talk | Part Deux

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This team is a disaster:

Drouin - MacKinnon - XXX
Lehkonen - XXX - Necas
XXX - Drury - XXX
Kiviranta - Kelly - O'Connor

Toews - Makar
Girard - XXX
XXX - Manson

Blackwood
Wedgewood

Pieces to use in Trade
- Valeri Nichushkin
- Casey Mittelstadt
- Sam Malinski
- Cal Ritchie
- Mikhail Gulyayev
- Draft Picks

Cap Dumps
- Ross Colton
- Miles Wood

I do not envy CMac BUT he also did this to himself.

This is a lost season.
 
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LOFIN said:
C'mon lol.

He produces next to MacKinnon. Despite what some of you think, producing next to superstar players is not something everyone can do. Ask Oilers fans, how much they struggled over the years to find someone other than Draisaitl to ride shotgun with McDavid. Rantanen does it pretty damn well with MacKinnon.

Once again, this slander against Mikko by some posters here is beyond ridiculous. "Not even worth 9M" Jesus f***ing Christ.

Gotta love the contrast when MacKinnon is calling for his jersey to be retired and here some people are basically saying he wasn't even worth his current contract.
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looks baf
LOFIN said:
Things have obviously changed. He didn't think he was actually getting traded, so he held firm. Good chance he would've taken the Avs offer, had he actually known they were going to trade him. The Avs/his agent didn't communicate that well enough for him. Finnish players in the 4-nations all said that Rantanen was still kinda shocked about the trade, banging on about how he didn't want it to happen and would've prefered to stay with the Avs.
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It's a good thing for the Avs. He looks terrible, lucky he didn't sign
 
I'm definitely ready to jump on a Zacha+Carlo+Frederic(11.15m) package. Not sure what to call it but perhaps Zacha and Necas just click. Nuke just comes back to Nate's line.

Just do a full on package for those 3 using
Mitts+Colton+Malinski(10.6m)+Gulyayev or Ritchie+rangers 2nd


Sorry not sorry
 
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hockeyfish said:
I hope we aren't arguing about Rantanen in three years like we do with Kadri now.
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Honestly, that probably depends more on Necas and how his career progresses. Unless this whole thing lights a fire under Rantanen, and he comes into camp next season (wherever that is) in the best shape of his life
 
dahrougem2 said:
Val is a warrior just like Matthew Tkachuk
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People don't realize one very important thing. If Landy can't go, Val is the only prayer we have of actually replacing him.

His groin shit can be fixed plenty of goalies have proven that, and I think the rehab disappearing stuff is done after watching his interview. He's serious, he's greatful to this organization, and dedicated. He convinced me. Maybe only me but, that's fine.

You can go get guys like Tippet, or Crouse to recreate the depth in that role.

You are NOT getting another PPG two way monster. Not during this cores life cycle.
 
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Laugh.. but if Nuke truly falls, and Landy isn't anything close to himself when he tries to go again. We're done.

They're the playoff engine that makes this whole thing work. The Avs have always won by being skilled, but unafraid of the dirty parts of what it takes to win even amongst their best players.

Guys like Forsberg, Landeskog, and Nuke have been huge series breaking players when they're needed.

So piss on it all you want, but we all blame Nuke for basically not being in legit competition for two cups lol.

Every single one of you know how important he is even if you hate him. Let's hope we get even one more year where everything comes together with this core. He's part of it..
 
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BobRossColton said:
I'm definitely ready to jump on a Zacha+Carlo+Frederic(11.15m) package. Not sure what to call it but perhaps Zacha and Necas just click. Nuke just comes back to Nate's line.

Just do a full on package for those 3 using
Mitts+Colton+Malinski(10.6m)+Gulyayev or Ritchie+rangers 2nd


Sorry not sorry
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What in the world are those three players going to do for the Avs?
 
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dahrougem2 said:
Who cares? Val Nichushkin has hardly been available the last 2.5 seasons. He has only played in 57% of the regular season games and 56% of the playoff games.

This team needs guys in the lineup, not guys rehabbing injuries or drug addictions. A worse player who is able to play >90% of the games is worth more to this team than Val Nichushkin could ever dream of being because he's never. f***ing. here.
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I fully agree. Time to get guys that can play and cut ties with guys that can't. That's including 92 and 13.

Get a new coach, get a new captain and try to save the season. The rest of Mack's and Makar's prime can't go to waste.

f*** emotions, the boat is sinking.
 
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Balthazar said:
I fully agree. Time to get guys that can play and cut ties with guys that can't. That's including 92 and 13.

Get a new coach, get a new captain and try to save the season. The rest of Mack's and Makar's prime can't go to waste.

f*** emotions, the boat is sinking.
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I do think they need a new captain, but they'll never cut bait with Landeskog. It'll either be he plays or goes on LTIR and the Avs use his money elsewhere.

13 is the one who needs to go because we need a legit 2nd/3rd line forward with size and speed in the lineup. I'd ship him to Utah right now for Lawson Crouse straight up knowing Crouse is a worse offensive player.
 
Stolen from the homers on Reddit (even they are starting to realize how mediocre this team is). In the last 20 games:

MidJost 7pts (1G)
Colton 3pts (1G)
Parsi 6pts (2G)
Kelly 4pts (2G)
Kivi 3pts (1G)
LOC 4pts (2G)
Wood (in the 24 games he’s played) 3pts (2G)

Cmac made the conscious decision to surround 3 of the top 15 players (then traded one of them) in the league with this pablum. Just a masterclass in team building.
 
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This is the last season the Avs can afford all this uncertainty if they fizzle out early (if they even make it at this rate).

They either need to completely revamp this team and trade Middlestadt, Colton, and Wood or fire Bednar and get a coach that can utilize more than 50 players in the league.
 
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It’s gotta be the coach getting rid of those players likely means attaching draft picks or just outright losing the trade to get out of the contract and there are simply too many of them right now.
 
dahrougem2 said:
13 is the one who needs to go because we need a legit 2nd/3rd line forward with size and speed in the lineup. I'd ship him to Utah right now for Lawson Crouse straight up knowing Crouse is a worse offensive player.
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Surely Val gets much more than Crouse, no? Even with the looming threat of a fourth PAP incident. This is crazy talk. Crouse has fewer points this year than Kiviranta, this is absurd
 
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Surely Val gets much more than Crouse, no? Even with the looming threat of a fourth PAP incident. This is crazy talk. Crouse has fewer points this year than Kiviranta, this is absurd
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Val has 1 more point than Kiviranta.

We have to understand Nichushkin's value is extremely low. He's constantly injured and has a drug addiction.
 
If you take away Mittelstadt’s hot start (15 points in 13 games) he’s since scored:

3 goals, 14 assists in 46 games. He’s playing at a 30 point pace since then.

3 GOALS SINCE OCTOBER FROM YOUR 2C lmao
 
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After those Bednar quotes, there just seems to be a huge disconnect between GM and coach. How we have arguably worth depth then those 2016-2018 teams is beyond me. Someone posted on Twitter the last goal from other then the top line was Kiviranta 7 games ago. It's massive joke at this point.

Somethings got to give whether its coach or gm. We are wasting a generational defenseman and centers prime. A guy like Makar only comes once in our life time.
 
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Val Nichushkin is the 2nd most impactful forward this organization has. I realize he’s been hurt and off doing rails and stuff but he’s still needed beyond belief. Moving on from him or trading him can’t be an option unless it’s part of an upgrade which I doubt.
 
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