Confirmed with Link: LA Kings @LAKings Welcome to Los Angeles, Phillip Danault!

[SFKingshomer]

Uhh…because 2C offensive production has been a huge issue for the Kings for years? Danault has averaged about 42 points per 82 games over his career. How many posters on this board have noted the offensive drop when a player comes to the Kings or the production increase when a player leaves the Kings? Do you think the Kings are going to make the playoffs with Danault at 2C if he puts up 35 points this season?

It’s not justabout his production. It’s about his ability to shut things down and create easier matchups for the rest of the forward group including the Kings young centers. Do you think Nick Suzuki would have been as productive matching up against teams top lines? He’s a good 2 way player but Danault made his job a lot easier.

 

[bmr]

Not sure why anyone is bringing up Danault’s offensive production. That isn’t why he was brought in. Anyone who knows the game would understand the reasoning and it’s been brought up several times.

That being said, he is very underrated for the offense he can generate (especially 5v5). I think a lot of people just look at the numbers without the meaning behind them.

 

[cyclones22]

There's a lot of hyperbole on the offense that Danault supposedly doesn't bring. People be talking like he's Colin Fraser on offense or something.

 

[SFKingshomer]

Not a good few days for Quinton Byfield, with this and the AHL announcement. Maybe good for the long run.

Every other Kings center prospect, of which there are many, just got bumped down a rung.

No they didn't and this is better for them both short and long term. You want them to earn it and be ready when called upon and have an easier path once they arrive. Kopitar had Handzus and later Stoll to eat up some of the defensive matchups.

 

[funky]

I know people have Ardvisson penciled in on Kopitars line but a line of

Kempe - Danault - Arvidsson looks very interesting to me. If Kempe follows Arvidsson’s balls to the wall approach we might see him step up his game a bit. Both wingers can shoot the puck as well

 

[tbrown33]

Great interview w/ Kings ex-goalie Stéphane Fiset (who is repping Danault with Meehan & Newport Sports) about how today went down...



His offer from Montreal at the start of the season was $5 million / 5 years.

Bergevin never replied to their counter.

Habs are a trash organization

 

[KINGS17]

There's a lot of hyperbole on the offense that Danault supposedly doesn't bring. People be talking like he's Colin Fraser on offense or something.

Colin Fraser...offense on tap. Only scored when it mattered.

 

[BigKing]

Uhh…because 2C offensive production has been a huge issue for the Kings for years? Danault has averaged about 42 points per 82 games over his career. How many posters on this board have noted the offensive drop when a player comes to the Kings or the production increase when a player leaves the Kings? Do you think the Kings are going to make the playoffs with Danault at 2C if he puts up 35 points this season?

He's going to be like when Stoll/Handzus were the 2A/2B centers and people are going to want more production from that role. No doubt.

He's going to be better defensively than both of those guys. Not as physical or quite as good on face-offs as Stoll but more physical and better on face-offs than Handzus.

Those DL teams didn't really have the center in the system that could produce the 50+ points or whatever it is you are looking for from the 2C so DL went and got both of those dudes. Blake has the C prospects in the system so he only needed to get one Stoll/Zeus type, hence Danault.

Team wasn't a true contender with Stoll at 2C. Good team but not a real threat. Won with him at 3C though and he was still playing 17 minutes a night in 2014...turned 32 a couple of weeks after the Cup win.

Danault will be the 2C this season unless one of the prospects can't be denied. As far as ice time goes, the 2010 squad that put up 101 points had the following average TOI for the top three centers:

Kopitar: 21:47
Handzus: 18:18
Stoll: 17:25

There was always going to be someone(s) moving to wing, traded or both. There will be plenty of ice-time for Byfield when the time comes with the hope being that he is the over 20 a night guy and Kopitar is the sub-20 guy as soon as 2022-23.

Blake grabbed a sure thing without giving up any prospects. I say sure thing because this is unlike the Kovalchuk signing which was far from a sure thing. Even if Danault isn't scoring, he is going to make this team better. There is far more to this signing than "it doesn't address the Kings biggest need of goal scoring" which isn't necessarily the team's biggest need: you don't have to score a ton of goals to be successful. A good team culture and maximum effort go a long way in hockey. That is what is being built here with the expectation that the goal scoring will eventually come from within. If it doesn't materialize as hoped, then Blake will need to go hunting for it like DL did.

 

[Buddy The Elf]

i'm like "ehh he's looking to his right, maybe it's just the angle" then he turns to his left and it's still aimed right

That's what she said!

 

[deaderhead28]

For thoses whining about Danaults offensive production

 

[deaderhead28]

Again

 

[Mats26]

Kopitar and Danault playing 30 minutes a night is a matchup nightmare for opposing teams. If we can add a threatening forward winger we'll be in good shape. Bertuzzi is still a player I would want on my team and next year Forsberg comes to mind.

 

[illegal_stick]

Also, we have the 2C and eventual 1C in Byfield. That's why you can make this move. Danault spends the first 2-3 years as the defensive center we need to shut down, then as Byfield reaches his potential, he can slide back into the 3C slot.

 

[BigKing]

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This doesn't really help the cause...very selective "stat".

"Toss out his most recent season" isn't a good way to argue for the signing, know what I mean?

 

[deaderhead28]

 

[deaderhead28]

This doesn't really help the cause...very selective "stat".

"Toss out his most recent season" isn't a good way to argue for the signing, know what I mean?

I posted multiple stats.Using 2020 ie covid19 season isnt a trailer I hitch my credibility on if I were thoses trying to make a argument against Danault,they look silly and lose all points.

 

[deaderhead28]

Been a Kings fan since 1971 so I have seen plenty of dumb moves. This one has to rank in the top 5 worst moves. The Kings need goal scorers not 5.5 million for someone that scores 6 goals in 75 games. Blake has to go.

You can always be a Ducks fan.I am sure Tomd can show you around the Honda center and get you a special addition Ducks sweater.

 

[King'sPawn]

For thoses whining about Danaults offensive production

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You know I'm all about overall points and aren't focused solely on goals normally, buuuuut...

You do need someone to put the puck in to get those assists.

That's been the issue with Kopitar, too. No elite finishers with good synergy with him.

The team dynamic has changed, and hopefully the addition of Arvidsson and Edler pushes the needle a bit, but what numbers ARE we expecting?

 

[Schmooley]

The team dynamic has changed, and hopefully the addition of Arvidsson and Edler pushes the needle a bit, but what numbers ARE we expecting?

I think the main part of these acquisitions is like you said the dynamic of the team changes and not really about the numbers.
Theyll win more games off the bat by not coming into the first period flat, blowing games late in the third, and actually executing the defensive 1-3-1 style correctly. The guys they brought in are hard working professionals that come to play.
The goal scorers that put them over the top will have to come from within and if not they could look into players Tarasenko or Laine if they think they actually can make a playoff run and not just be first round fodder.

 

[tbrown33]

You know I'm all about overall points and aren't focused solely on goals normally, buuuuut...

You do need someone to put the puck in to get those assists.

That's been the issue with Kopitar, too. No elite finishers with good synergy with him.

The team dynamic has changed, and hopefully the addition of Arvidsson and Edler pushes the needle a bit, but what numbers ARE we expecting?

.5 ppg:

I hear what you're saying. I think Danault simply needs a couple players who can at least hit double digit shooting percentages (similar to Gallagher and Danault, although Gallagher hasn't always been above 10%). Maybe Tatar could be considered an "elite" finisher but I'm not sure.

If you put him with, say Iaffalo and Kempe, you can achieve that. Iaffalo to dig pucks out and cycle and Kempe largely as the finisher, but obviously it's hockey and those roles don't need to be so cut and dry. But that's a line with good speed and tenacity, and I think both were on pace for 20 gs last year.

Iaffalo:

Kempe:

 

[johnjm22]

Not sure why anyone is bringing up Danault’s offensive production. That isn’t why he was brought in. Anyone who knows the game would understand the reasoning and it’s been brought up several times.

I'm pretty sure part of the reason he was brought in was for his ES production. I think he said it in his interview.

 

[tbrown33]

What I'm mostly expecting from Danault is an overall improvement at 5v5. Kings were basically the worst in the league last year. Habs? Just look at who's in the bottom left corner and who's in the upper right:

What do Phillip Danault and Alex Edler bring to the LA Kings lineup?

 

[deaderhead28]

You know I'm all about overall points and aren't focused solely on goals normally, buuuuut...

You do need someone to put the puck in to get those assists.

That's been the issue with Kopitar, too. No elite finishers with good synergy with him.

The team dynamic has changed, and hopefully the addition of Arvidsson and Edler pushes the needle a bit, but what numbers ARE we expecting?

There is bound to be injuries during the season and the kids will get their cup of tea to produce on the top 2 lies on the wings.

 

[deaderhead28]

 

[kilowatt]

I know people have Ardvisson penciled in on Kopitars line but a line of

Kempe - Danault - Arvidsson looks very interesting to me. If Kempe follows Arvidsson’s balls to the wall approach we might see him step up his game a bit. Both wingers can shoot the puck as well

So help me if our top line next season is still Iafallo - Kopitar - Brown.

I'd still love to see Vilardi next to Kopitar. Get Vilardi to shoot the f***ing puck more often. Just launch it! Maybe Andersson or Moore can handle 3C duties?

Iafallo - Kopitar - Vilardi
Kempe - Danault - Arvidsson
Athanasiou - Andersson - Brown
Grundstrom - JAD - Moore

Who did I forget this time?