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FrozenKing18

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deaderhead28

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No, I don't really think he's given up much of anything this offseason, while still adding Danault and Arvidsson. That's why I'm basically okay with these acquisitions, even though I don't like Danault's contract.

We were fortunate Handzus basically worked out (he was good 2 of his 4 years IMO). No guarantee Danault will work out as well. These types of deals usually don't work out.

There were people around here who were okay with trading Turcotte, or Byfield, or 1st round picks to try and make us a contender right now. I was criticizing that mentality.
I am ok trading Turcotte for the right player like a Top talented LD.Byfield I've never seen anyone on here want to trade him tho.There's some people here that have to complain about every transaction that the Kings make as well.I like the signings today and think it will help the team and benefit the kids learning in the long run.
 
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deaderhead28

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So the plan to increase offense was to sign a defensive forward to a 6 year deal in hopes it allows a 34 year old center to produce more?

I don't think that is the plan at all.
From the interviews I saw, he will get a bigger role and PP time with the Kings. I expect 40-50 pts from Danault while also reducing Kopi's ice time from PK duties. There is 0 guarantee that this will result in more production from Kopitar though.
Of course limiting Kopi PK duties keeps him fresher during the game.This allows Kopi to be better rested and prolong his career.Who said Danault and Kopi won't play on the say PP? They may even be split up on different PP.Kopi does alot without Stoll or Lewis on this team,add Carter as well.
 
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kenito7

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Been a Kings fan since 1971 so I have seen plenty of dumb moves. This one has to rank in the top 5 worst moves. The Kings need goal scorers not 5.5 million for someone that scores 6 goals in 75 games. Blake has to go.
 
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Ziggy Stardust

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Been a Kings fan since 1971 so I have seen plenty of dumb moves. This one has to rank in the top 5 worst moves. The Kings need goal scorers not 5.5 million for someone that scores 6 goals in 75 games. Blake has to go.

I'm surprised a long time fan could come to such a conclusion.

I guess trading all those draft picks, Larry Murphy, Alexei Zhitnik, Darryl Sydor, Cernak, the pick that turned into Barzal, acquiring Jeremy Roenick, Dan Cloutier, etc., rank behind the Danault signing? Really rationale thought process here.
 
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johnjm22

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Been a Kings fan since 1971 so I have seen plenty of dumb moves. This one has to rank in the top 5 worst moves. The Kings need goal scorers not 5.5 million for someone that scores 6 goals in 75 games. Blake has to go.
I bet you were a big proponent of the Kovalchuk signing. Thought he would kill it on the PP.
 
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kenito7

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I'm surprised a long time fan could come to such a conclusion.

I guess trading all those draft picks, Larry Murphy, Alexei Zhitnik, Darryl Sydor, Cernak, the pick that turned into Barzal, acquiring Jeremy Roenick, Dan Cloutier, etc., rank behind the Danault signing? Really rationale post here. You might be better served sulking with the other petulant posters over on LAKingsInsider.
Danault serves no purpose for the Kings. This is exactly a Kings move from the the 1970s or 80s all in for the first round of the playoffs. Danault just blocks a roster spot from
one the many Kings prospects. I thought the whole idea of a
rebuild was to try to build contender but if all you want is to watch 4 or 5 playoff games a year enjoy.
 

Steve Zissou

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Great interview w/ Kings ex-goalie Stéphane Fiset (who is repping Danault with Meehan & Newport Sports) about how today went down...



His offer from Montreal at the start of the season was $5 million / 5 years.

Bergevin never replied to their counter.
 
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Steve Zissou

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This is the take most of us feel after watching Montreal's cup run this year. Merci @Jeune Poulet !

Some of the ridiculous takes on Danault really highlight the xenophobia present on the Habs' subforum. Danault has earned every minute of his ice time in Montreal and was not, at any time, given anything and does not need a coach "obsessed with him", whatever that means.

Danault is a very good player who had a down year during this contract year but still managed to play incredibly well defensively. He raised his game in the post-season even though it doesn't show on his individual stats. Danault was called in every shitty situation, against all the elite players, taking all the unfavorable face-offs, allowing our team to maximize Suzuki's talents and let him grow and thrive on a line with with easier assignments. Danault's line went against elite competition.

Aside from his terrific hockey sense and defensive instinct, Danault doesn't do anything at the elite level but he is very good all-around and has no weakness and most importantly, he doesn't cheat. He is usually appreciated by his teammates and coaches, and even moreso by his linemates. He would be best used on a very effective all-around 2nd line but can step up on a first line in case of injuries, or would excel on a loaded contender as an elite 3rd center.

I don't know if he still does but, for a few summers, he trained with Patrice Bergeron and he really picked up a lot of things from this. He's obviously taking a lot of pride in playing a two-way game. His offense is slightly underrated and he was a top-60 player in the NHL for point-per-game at even strength in 2018-19 and 2019-20. People keep on pointing out he sucks offensively and I don't get that. The numbers don't lie. He's produced points with a reclamation project who was dumped by the Red Wings and a second line grinder.

His usage in Montreal was logical and 100% earned. He was used as a dominant even strength two-way threat and an elite penalty killer and delivered brilliantly on this. I would have offered him 5Mx5 without problems. The price the Kings paid is a bit steep but I wouldn't be surprised if Danault still had his career season ahead of him rather than behind.
 

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Danault serves no purpose for the Kings. This is exactly a Kings move from the the 1970s or 80s all in for the first round of the playoffs. Danault just blocks a roster spot from
one the many Kings prospects. I thought the whole idea of a
rebuild was to try to build contender but if all you want is to watch 4 or 5 playoff games a year enjoy.

Did the Kings give up any prospects or picks today? Being a long time fan, I'm sure you remember how many careers the Kings ruined because they rushed prospects and forced them into spots they clearly weren't ready for.
 

kilowatt

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Danault would be 7th on the team in goals scored over the past three seasons despite receiving only slightly more power play time than Michael Amadio (167:19 to 156:00, respectively).

For context, over the same span of three seasons, Kopitar spent 614:13 on the power play, Brown 500:34, Iafallo 465:50. Hell, Kovalchuk had more power play time in 81 games with the Kings than Danault did in 205 games with Montreal.

Conversely, over those same three years, Danault played 502:06 on the penalty kill, more than any Kings player including both Doughty (459:46) and Kopitar (400:29).

Danault has played tougher minutes than almost anyone else in the league. This is a guy you want on your team. Danault will help Kopitar as much as Kopitar will help Danault.

And if you really want to get spicy, we can talk about how Danault scored more even-strength goals over the past three seasons than even Jeff Carter, good for fourth on the team behind only Kopitar, Brown, and Iafallo.
 
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kenito7

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Did the Kings give up any prospects or picks today? Being a long time fan, I'm sure you remember how many careers the Kings ruined because they rushed prospects and forced them into spots they clearly weren't ready for.
The Kings rarely had prospects to rush in the 70s or early 80s.
Danault would be a great addition for team that could use a little defense to go along with all there scoring but this not were the Kings are at. The Kings cant even trade prospects for goal scorers because now they have no cap space. The most valuable asset the Kings had has salary cap and now they don't. If the cap stays flat for 5 years people are not going to look back at this move as a good one.
 

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Danault would be 7th on the team in goals scored over the past three seasons despite receiving only slightly more power play time than Michael Amadio (167:19 to 156:00, respectively).

For context, over the same span of three seasons, Kopitar spent 614:13 on the power play, Brown 500:34, Iafallo 465:50. Hell, Kovalchuk had more power play time in 81 games with the Kings than Danault did in 205 games with Montreal.

Conversely, over those same three years, Danault played 502:06 on the penalty kill, more than any Kings player including both Doughty (459:46) and Kopitar (400:29).

Danault has played tougher minutes than almost anyone else in the league. This is a guy you want on your team. Danault will help Kopitar as much as Kopitar will help Danault.

Danault is the eraser...

 

Ziggy Stardust

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The Kings rarely had prospects to rush in the 70s or early 80s.
Danault would be a great addition for team that could use a little defense to go along with all there scoring but this not were the Kings are at. The Kings cant even trade prospects for goal scorers because now they have no cap space. The most valuable asset the Kings had has salary cap and now they don't. If the cap stays flat for 5 years people are not going to look back at this move as a good one.

The Kings actually have $29 million in cap space that’ll become available next summer.
 

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