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Kings tank brigade assaults Florida, New Jersey, Vegas, Chicago and St. Louis positions. They are no match for the Kings tank brigade.

 
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You guys just don’t understand it’s all a confusion tactic by Stevens......wait he was fired? Then this is real? Dang.....
 
Sucks about Campbell...I wonder if they ride what they have or trade for a backup. Flyers have 6 goalies under contract.


And on the Tanner Pearson trade front, this from Bobby Mac

NHL Teams Worth Watching For Early-Season Trades - MyNHLTradeRumors.com
Another is winger Tanner Pearson, who has one point in 16 games. Last Thursday, TSN’s Bob McKenzie reported Pearson’s name is “very much out there in terms of trade speculation and has been for a while.”

the "has been for awhile" I wonder how long 'awhile' is and if the offers were that bad. Now they'll be even worse, given the Kings situation.
 
Raccoon Jesus said:
I'm SUPER bummed for Campbell, of course, but also super annoyed that this is just one more alibi for The Blake/Robataille Firm.
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I shouldn't be so positive but I'm hoping this would expedite them knowing this team isnt going anywhere and to start the rebuild or retool much faster.

Then again, your thought process is probably closer to reality. Blake will probably throw away a pick or 2 on a goalie if budaj doesnt play well which will really suck.
 
maybe willie thought he was coming to win some games..lol
now a Doughty injury and we are good for last
 
Well if it wasn't obvious before, it is obvious now. Stick a fork in em. We are done this season. Probably not a bad thing for this franchise. If the Kings' current play and injuries didn't drive this team down, I don't think Blake could have the justification to burn the team to the ground. We can finally be sellers at the deadline, load up on picks/young players, and retool for next season with hopefully the first overall pick.
 
If Pearson was waived, do you think any team would pick him up, with 2 years left at 3.75 mil ?
He can't skate above average speed anymore, is not physical, not great defensively, can't create offense, can't score.
Even if he resurges, may be lucky to be a 10 goal, 20 point player. And almost unlikely.
 
Winger23 said:
I shouldn't be so positive but I'm hoping this would expedite them knowing this team isnt going anywhere and to start the rebuild or retool much faster.

Then again, your thought process is probably closer to reality. Blake will probably throw away a pick or 2 on a goalie if budaj doesnt play well which will really suck.
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Quick and Campbell will be back this season. Get another goalie, you have to account for him. Lombardi didn't do anything when Quick went down. Blake didn't do anything when Carter went down. In the league today, you're pretty much stuck with what you have. If Petersen or Budaj go down, they might be forced to do something minor just to have a backup since apparently Kehler is also hurt at the moment. Wouldn't worry too much about it.
 
Ziggy Stardust said:
All of you being negative about the current state of the Kings don’t understand what you’re watching. They’re playing great and have plenty of opportunities to do nothing. Pointing out they’re dead last in scoring and in the standings is simply scoreboard watching.

#iamstoopid
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Yeah, you are, unlike you, If you coached junior teams for 3000 years like I have this wouldn't be a problem.
 
Ziggy Stardust said:
All of you being negative about the current state of the Kings don’t understand what you’re watching. They’re playing great and have plenty of opportunities to do nothing. Pointing out they’re dead last in scoring and in the standings is simply scoreboard watching.

#iamstoopid
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Not that I disagree with you. And I hope it doesn't seem like I'm playing mod, but how about we not aggressively bait some people which will reignite an argument?
 
Fat Elvis said:
I understand it's not a popular opinion, but.. If Doughty was willing to waive his NTC, should be considered to be moved (Leafs). Along with the usual suspects Carter, Pearson, AMart, Muzzin.
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Doughty is a player I would hate if not on the kings. the way he always looks to the refs when knocked down and complains alot of calls again annoy the hell out of me. That said he is the absolute last guy the kings should consider moving even if he agrees to waive his NTC. If the kings fluke out and win the lottery than this re-tool gets a huge boost and LA should be competitive during Doughty's contract.
 
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KingPuckChoo said:
hope Blake doesn't make any desperate trades now, i'd rather hang on to Pearson and co until the trade deadline

then you offload a ton of these boneheads for picks & prospects
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Pretty much.

Let the guys with NTCs run THEMSELVES out of town by embarassing themselves night after night, they will be in high demand at the trade deadline though, lots of firsts to be had at that point.

Nothing to be gained from a low value panic trade, at least let market pressure and need to win make another GM make decisions.
 
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YP44 said:
Doughty is a player I would hate if not on the kings. the way he always looks to the refs when knocked down and complains alot of calls again annoy the hell out of me. That said he is the absolute last guy the kings should consider moving even if he agrees to waive his NTC. If the kings fluke out and win the lottery than this re-tool gets a huge boost and LA should be competitive during Doughty's contract.
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Yea, I understand. But he's been ridden Hard for 10 seasons, difficult minutes. Much longer than most careers last. They'd be selling high and a year maybe 2 early. Just saying that it should be thought about. I'd rather be a year early than a year late in dealing a player, especially with that contract.
 
Fat Elvis said:
Yea, I understand. But he's been ridden Hard for 10 seasons, difficult minutes. Much longer than most careers last. They'd be selling high and a year maybe 2 early. Just saying that it should be thought about. I'd rather be a year early than a year late in dealing a player, especially with that contract.
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Doughty's pedigree and the fact he is a right side D will always make him movable.....should it come to that
 
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Say they are to consider trading Doughty. Who do you target? Not only do they need help on offense but they'd also need a #1 defenseman, because there is nobody in the system coming up or anyone on the roster who can replace him.

I'm all for trading anyone as long as it makes sense and improves the team. Not sure if they can achieve that by trading Doughty, but at this point, I hope nobody's job is safe.

Maybe Rob Blake should instill some fear into them and approach the few with NMC/NTC and ask them to submit their lists. It's time those players who've gotten too comfortable here be held accountable.
 
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Ziggy Stardust said:
Say they are to consider trading Doughty. Who do you target? Not only do they need help on offense but they'd also need a #1 defenseman, because there is nobody in the system coming up or anyone on the roster who can replace him.

I'm all for trading anyone as long as it makes sense and improves the team. Not sure if they can achieve that by trading Doughty, but at this point, I hope nobody's job is safe.

Maybe Rob Blake should instill some fear and them and approach the few with NMC/NTC and ask them to submit their lists. It's time those players who've gotten too comfortable here be held accountable.
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If I am moving Doughty (which I would never do) I would target a young D like Bouchard in Edmonton, Boqvist in Chicago or Dobson in New York. All right side guys. I then would also ask for a lot on top
 
Ziggy Stardust said:
Say they are to consider trading Doughty. Who do you target? Not only do they need help on offense but they'd also need a #1 defenseman, because there is nobody in the system coming up or anyone on the roster who can replace him.

I'm all for trading anyone as long as it makes sense and improves the team. Not sure if they can achieve that by trading Doughty, but at this point, I hope nobody's job is safe.

Maybe Rob Blake should instill some fear and them and approach the few with NMC/NTC and ask them to submit their lists. It's time those players who've gotten too comfortable here be held accountable.
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Would have to accept that a guy even remotely like Doughty is far, far, FAR off. Look how long it took his peers to establish themselves. Duncan Keith, late 20s. Hedman, late 20s. Even Karlsson, earlier, but wouldn't get used on defense or hard matchups at all. Subban had all sorts of gaffes before he stabilized.

We are more likely to never see a d-man like Doughty on this roster again. And the true #1s we've had in the last 30 years might simply be Doughty, Blake, Norstrom.
 
Peter James Bond II said:
If Pearson was waived, do you think any team would pick him up, with 2 years left at 3.75 mil ?
He can't skate above average speed anymore, is not physical, not great defensively, can't create offense, can't score.
Even if he resurges, may be lucky to be a 10 goal, 20 point player. And almost unlikely.
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absolutely he would be scooped up
 
Fat Elvis said:
Yea, I understand. But he's been ridden Hard for 10 seasons, difficult minutes. Much longer than most careers last. They'd be selling high and a year maybe 2 early. Just saying that it should be thought about. I'd rather be a year early than a year late in dealing a player, especially with that contract.
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Most careers are irrelevant in analyzing Doughty. Lidstrom had 8 seasons of averaging 27+ minutes per night and played 1,564 games. Pronger had 8 Seasons of 27+ minutes and played 1,167 games (career ending injury). NHL.com only has TOI stats starting at 97-98 but Bourque played 27+ for 3 of his last 4 seasons, he played 1,612 games.

Bourque won a cup at 41, Lidstrom at 38, Pronger at the youthful 33.

Sure, any player can drop off dramatically at 30 and the above guys are the exception to the rule, but if anyone in the league can replicate their success its Doughty.
 
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Ziggy Stardust said:
Say they are to consider trading Doughty. Who do you target? Not only do they need help on offense but they'd also need a #1 defenseman, because there is nobody in the system coming up or anyone on the roster who can replace him.

I'm all for trading anyone as long as it makes sense and improves the team. Not sure if they can achieve that by trading Doughty, but at this point, I hope nobody's job is safe.

Maybe Rob Blake should instill some fear and them and approach the few with NMC/NTC and ask them to submit their lists. It's time those players who've gotten too comfortable here be held accountable.
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Kapanen, Dermott, and Liljegren for Doughty. Blake asks Doughty to waive for this trade and lets it be known he has a deal already in place. That puts a ton of pressure on Doughty, who says he is all about winning, to accept a deal that returns him to Canada and the Toronto area.

You continue the tank this season, while trading Carter, Muzzin, and Martinez for whatever you can get, and hopefully draft Hughes or Kaako. Maybe Vilardi makes a full recovery, and the rebuild is in full swing.

Oh, and if you have to do it to make it work for Toronto, you take Hainsey off their hands.
 
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I don't see the point of moving Doughty. He is not in his mid to late 30s. Nowadays, rebuilds are relatively quick (2-4 years maybe). Doughty is only 28 and I can see him being a high level defenseman even past 35. By the time he is 30-32, the Kings can be back on track if they sell the right players, and draft right (and get lucky with the draft).

What we need to do is load up on as many 1st rounders as we can in this deep draft. I think players like Muzzin, Carter, and Toffoli could fetch 1st rounders a piece, if not more. If the right trades are made, we can have four 1st round picks in 2019. That would be huge.

Edit: I also note that we are unlikely to draft a defenseman like Doughty in the next 10 years. Might as well keep DD. Elite defensemen like that don't grow on trees.
 
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