Kadri

[eramosat]

I was just chatting with my Dad, and I want to say this.
I'm from Toronto, so I still keep up with a lot of Toronto media, and from the moment after his second playoff suspension the narrative there was that the Leafs had to trade him. They had no choice. He had lost his cool twice in a row and got himself suspended, and then the Leafs lost in the first round.

To me, this narrative has always been complete bullshit. If one play getting suspended is the cause of your team losing, I'm sorry, but your team just isn't very good.

Kadri is a passionate guy, but the same thing that got him suspended is the reason he's such a great player. And the thing that bothers me about the whole thing is the Leafs knew him better than anyone. They knew that today's version of Kadri was in there waiting. If they had just had patience with him, imagine the center depth the Leafs would have had at this point. Leafs fans are already talking about moving Tavares to wing - Kadri could have been their 2C the rest of his career. A hometown kid and fan favourite. Instead he was essentially run out of town.

Well, to all the Toronto fans and media who acting (wrongly) like he must be traded, they can kiss Kadri's Stanley Cup winning ass. What a player. I assume he'll play somewhere else next season, but I'll always love him.

Leafs unloaded the very type of snarl they need come every playoff. He was the only player on those rosters reacting with anything approaching the level of truculence needed in those specific series, the first suspension, my god, the Bruins were getting away with absolute murder and no-one on the Leafs seemed to even care to stand up for themselves.
I was sad when Dubas decided he was not worth the risk any longer, it seemed exact opposite of what needed to be done, and no, there is no way Kyle was influenced by fan sentiment, that is not his style.

Congrats Nazem...you got what every player hopes for, and then some!

 

[Colorado Avalanche]

Ran into a girl at the grocery store, she told me that her brother's mother's daughter said Kadri would sign with avs for 6 years,37.275 million .

Too little, optimistic

 

[Shane Diesel]

any of you guys have a .gif of when Kadri hurt Binnington by any chance?

 

[CalderKing21]

So let's see here, what religion is Guy Lafleur, how about Patrick Maroon, or Victir Hedman?
Point is, religion has no place in sports, no need to mention it. When you are on the ice, court, field, pitch or whatever who gives a flying F what religion a person is.

It matters to little kids who look like him and are the same faith as him to see him win. Representation matters, it may seem silly or divisive to you but it's not to the future generations that end up in the sport because of him.

 

[cannucky]

I was just chatting with my Dad, and I want to say this.
I'm from Toronto, so I still keep up with a lot of Toronto media, and from the moment after his second playoff suspension the narrative there was that the Leafs had to trade him. They had no choice. He had lost his cool twice in a row and got himself suspended, and then the Leafs lost in the first round.

To me, this narrative has always been complete bullshit. If one play getting suspended is the cause of your team losing, I'm sorry, but your team just isn't very good.

Kadri is a passionate guy, but the same thing that got him suspended is the reason he's such a great player. And the thing that bothers me about the whole thing is the Leafs knew him better than anyone. They knew that today's version of Kadri was in there waiting. If they had just had patience with him, imagine the center depth the Leafs would have had at this point. Leafs fans are already talking about moving Tavares to wing - Kadri could have been their 2C the rest of his career. A hometown kid and fan favourite. Instead he was essentially run out of town.

Well, to all the Toronto fans and media who acting (wrongly) like he must be traded, they can kiss Kadri's Stanley Cup winning ass. What a player. I assume he'll play somewhere else next season, but I'll always love him.

I was also raised in Toronto but probably much earlier than you lol , I don't believe patience had anything to do with it , I believe it was situation . Warriors stand up for and along side of their brothers , early in his days in Toronto the team had guys like Colton Orr and Keith Aulie etc ... these guys were very good at policing the ice and standing up for a teammate and Kadri was free to be the free wheeling playmaker that we drafted 7th overall . The modern Dumbass era Leafs are baby wipe soft and Nazem was left in a situation where if he didn't jump in when Marner got head shot into the glass who would ? Willy Me lander ? JT ? not likely and Naz is a warrior , I made the comparison in the past to the logic of trading him that you don't see Marchand getting swapped around the league , the Bruins know what a warrior is and they hold on to what they have . Colorado has a whole team of Warriors so Kadri doesn't have to be the one guy anymore , it took him a while to figure it out but he's got it licked now lol.

PS his trade is what brought me over to following the AVs and I sincerely hope he takes enough of a haircut to stay and win 4 more cups here .

 

[Arthur Morgan]

in my dynasty league in the 2nd round COL beat STL and it was because Binnington got hurt that week and made only 9 saves with a 17+GAA and .600+SV% COL also owns Kadri so seems fitting while Im writing about it to have that gif ya know lol

 

[Bill Peckerskull]

any of you guys have a .gif of when Kadri hurt Binnington by any chance?

No, but I'm sure there's one where Calle Rosen ran into both Naz and Binnington causing the injury.

 

[cannucky]

No, but I'm sure there's one where Calle Rosen ran into both Naz and Binnington causing the injury.

well played , well played indeed sir

 

[Arthur Morgan]

No, but I'm sure there's one where Calle Rosen ran into both Naz and Binnington causing the injury.

hmmm Im going to look for that thanks

 

[Shane Diesel]

He'll always be my #2C. Nazem f***in' Kadri!

 

[Niagara Bill]

It matters to little kids who look like him and are the same faith as him to see him win. Representation matters, it may seem silly or divisive to you but it's not to the future generations that end up in the sport because of him.

Point is by highlighting it , it does more to separate than unite. I can be encouraged to be a golfer because of my favorite. Or a ball player. I loved Willie Mays, the say hey kid and pretended I was him using the basket catch like him.
I loved Salming and I am not Swedish. I love Kadri and I am not Muslim.
Encouraging kids to follow because of religion, colour, is perpetuating differences.
If you are growing up in Dominican Rep and great ball player comes from your home town, then cheer, not because of colour, not because or race, not because of religion.
Sport should be pure...skill, desire, love.
If you love Kadri because of religion, then that allows someone to hate for the same reason.
Love him because he is GREAT. Just like loving A Matthews.
I get your point, I just belief it hurts our country more than it helps.

 

[TomppaKoo]

I actually think that no year can be more than a 60% variance from the highest paid year, not the AAV. And there is also something like no year-to-year variance can be greater than 25% (I think...I'm more iffy on this one.)

Sebastian Aho's total salary for first season was 12M (Thank You Montreal) and this year it is 6M so based on that example at least 50% variance is allowed.

 

[UnkleKraker]

Naz earned the right to go out and get absolutely paid. Best offensive season, followed by a disciplined post season, and a god mode return from injury. I would love it if we could keep him but somebody is going to back up the Brinks truck. Wouldn't shock me if he gets $8M.

 

[cannucky]

Naz earned the right to go out and get absolutely paid. Best offensive season, followed by a disciplined post season, and a god mode return from injury. I would love it if we could keep him but somebody is going to back up the Brinks truck. Wouldn't shock me if he gets $8M.

I'm not saying he doesn't deserve it and hasn't earned it , I'm asking who has it to pay him ? and where are they on the league pecking order ? Half the league makes the playoffs and most of this years teams are up against it worse than Colorado . 1/4 of the league is out by Xmas and sad fact is that 1/4 is also the teams with the ability to pay that kind of money this year . You can look around the league and see there is only one team that has fewer than 4 open roster spots and thats the Bruins , 20 teams need to sign 6 or more and with the covid cap there really isn't the kind of money there normally is available , Vegas has to sign 7 players before september and they are already 2mill over so we'll see what this weeks buyout season brings , I think it's going to be hard to find a playoff team with 7 or 8 million available for 1 player .

 

[flyfysher]

It matters to little kids who look like him and are the same faith as him to see him win. Representation matters, it may seem silly or divisive to you but it's not to the future generations that end up in the sport because of him.

Exactly. It gets people to see others as just people who enjoy doing the same thing we do and thereby become more accepting. I saw Kadri with his little girl earlier this season. I admire the guy for being a good family man as much as a great hockey player.

I wanted to get rid of Kadri after the VGK series. I was wrong about the guy. Congrats to Kadri and good on him.

I hope he stays but if he leaves then he has my respect for his play as a member of the Avs.

 

[MarkT]

I was also raised in Toronto but probably much earlier than you lol , I don't believe patience had anything to do with it , I believe it was situation . Warriors stand up for and along side of their brothers , early in his days in Toronto the team had guys like Colton Orr and Keith Aulie etc ... these guys were very good at policing the ice and standing up for a teammate and Kadri was free to be the free wheeling playmaker that we drafted 7th overall . The modern Dumbass era Leafs are baby wipe soft and Nazem was left in a situation where if he didn't jump in when Marner got head shot into the glass who would ? Willy Me lander ? JT ? not likely and Naz is a warrior , I made the comparison in the past to the logic of trading him that you don't see Marchand getting swapped around the league , the Bruins know what a warrior is and they hold on to what they have . Colorado has a whole team of Warriors so Kadri doesn't have to be the one guy anymore , it took him a while to figure it out but he's got it licked now lol.

PS his trade is what brought me over to following the AVs and I sincerely hope he takes enough of a haircut to stay and win 4 more cups here .

I remember the truculence days. Heck, one of my favourite players as a kid was Tie Domi. I agree though, moving Kadri was the kind straw in that team getting way too soft. You can see them trying to correct that with guys like Muzzin and Simmonds.

 

[UnkleKraker]

I'm not saying he doesn't deserve it and hasn't earned it , I'm asking who has it to pay him ? and where are they on the league pecking order ? Half the league makes the playoffs and most of this years teams are up against it worse than Colorado . 1/4 of the league is out by Xmas and sad fact is that 1/4 is also the teams with the ability to pay that kind of money this year . You can look around the league and see there is only one team that has fewer than 4 open roster spots and thats the Bruins , 20 teams need to sign 6 or more and with the covid cap there really isn't the kind of money there normally is available , Vegas has to sign 7 players before september and they are already 2mill over so we'll see what this weeks buyout season brings , I think it's going to be hard to find a playoff team with 7 or 8 million available for 1 player .

Very well could be. At that point does he accept a little less ($500K-$1M) to chase more cups? If so we should welcome him back with arms wide open.

 

[cannucky]

That is my point exactly , most of these guys have money now , some are just about "the business of hockey" but most aren't they are driven alpha dogs that want to win , Colorado has clearly built a team of guys that will do anything to win and I will not be surprised to see some friendly deals this summer , hell look at Nate he's practically playing for league minimum compared to what he is worth on the open market . Watch him re-sign next year for 8.7 like Sid and break the internet . I will be very disappointed if Naz doesn't make a big effort to get a deal done here , not saying he should play for 2million but an AAV in the 5.5 is a very fair deal both ways . There is nobody in the league that can replace him at that price point .

 

[MarkT]

That is my point exactly , most of these guys have money now , some are just about "the business of hockey" but most aren't they are driven alpha dogs that want to win , Colorado has clearly built a team of guys that will do anything to win and I will not be surprised to see some friendly deals this summer , hell look at Nate he's practically playing for league minimum compared to what he is worth on the open market . Watch him re-sign next year for 8.7 like Sid and break the internet . I will be very disappointed if Naz doesn't make a big effort to get a deal done here , not saying he should play for 2million but an AAV in the 5.5 is a very fair deal both ways . There is nobody in the league that can replace him at that price point .

Um, at the time Nate signed that deal it wasn't a discount. And if you're thinking Kadri will sign for 5.5 you're going to be very, very disappointed. He's going to get paid somewhere. Be happy for him. I hope it's with the Rangers, personally because it would fit his personality nicely. He'd retire a New York legend.

 

[LOFIN]

Um, at the time Nate signed that deal it wasn't a discount. And if you're thinking Kadri will sign for 5.5 you're going to be very, very disappointed. He's going to get paid somewhere. Be happy for him. I hope it's with the Rangers, personally because it would fit his personality nicely. He'd retire a New York legend.

And I'm going to expect some people here and other teams fans are going to be shocked when MacKinnon doesn't sign for less than 10 million. "But he said he'd take a discount!" Yeah, that doesn't mean he's doing charity work. A discount for MacKinnon would be less than 12 million.

 

[MarkT]

And I'm going to expect some people here and other teams fans are going to be shocked when MacKinnon doesn't sign for less than 10 million. "But he said he'd take a discount!" Yeah, that doesn't mean he's doing charity work. A discount for MacKinnon would be less than 12 million.

If we're being honest, anything less than the McDavid contract is a discount.

 

[cannucky]

Um, at the time Nate signed that deal it wasn't a discount. And if you're thinking Kadri will sign for 5.5 you're going to be very, very disappointed. He's going to get paid somewhere. Be happy for him. I hope it's with the Rangers, personally because it would fit his personality nicely. He'd retire a New York legend.

Right 6.3 the same year Stamkos signed for 8.5 wasn't a discount ? If you don't know the difference between a structured deal with a 5.5 AAV and 5.5 in salary then there really isn't anything to discuss with you . OK bud nothing to see here back your Rangers board , thanks for coming out .

 

[MarkT]

Right 6.3 the same year Stamkos signed for 8.5 wasn't a discount ? OK bud nothing to see here back your Rangers board , thanks for coming out .

 

[TomppaKoo]

If we're being honest, anything less than the McDavid contract is a discount.

Not really. Mack is not McDavid and Makar took a 9M contract. I'd be disappointed on MacKinnon, if it is 12M or over that he asks. What team is going to offer MacK 12M+? The answer is no team if we exclude the scrubs of NHL.

 

[MarkT]

Not really. Mack is not McDavid and Makar took a 9M contract. I'd be disappointed on MacKinnon, if it is 12M or over that he asks.

The McDavid deal was signed in 2017. Given MacKinnon's play, I think he could get more than 12.5 on the open market. Hell Tavares was apparently offered 13. I certainly hope he gives the team a discount, but we need to keep his open market value in perspective when we're defining what he might mean by "discount".