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So let's see here, what religion is Guy Lafleur, how about Patrick Maroon, or Victir Hedman?
Point is, religion has no place in sports, no need to mention it. When you are on the ice, court, field, pitch or whatever who gives a flying F what religion a person is.

Ok, maybe take a breath and chill for a second. It is a milestone whether or not you appreciate it. I'm sure there are thousands of budding Muslim hockey players out there who just witnessed someone they can relate to lift the greatest prize in the sport. It is inspirational for them to see it can be done and that someone like them can be successful. I am all for pushing diversity, celebrating things like this, and encouraging more kids around to world to follow their passions. Especially after the shit Naz received from Blues fans, this is a great moment and one definitely worth celebrating.
 
So let's see here, what religion is Guy Lafleur, how about Patrick Maroon, or Victir Hedman?
Point is, religion has no place in sports, no need to mention it. When you are on the ice, court, field, pitch or whatever who gives a flying F what religion a person is.
A lot of people have seemed to care when they sent him threats based on his religion.
 
The 11 million in projected doesn't take into account the Rangers need to sign 9 roster players in order to ice a team so they really are in worse shape than Colorado cap wise , The Avs are in pretty good shape in spite of having some really good players left to deal with .
Yes, I don't think Rangers can squeeze hi in with their cap situation. Top teams that realistically could do that are Calgary, Colorado, Carolina and maybe Pens depending on what they decide with Malkin/Letang. Colorado is actually in a very good position cap wise.

This is very much a fantasy, but imagine if we could do:

Burakowski 3,5M
Cogliano 2,5M
Kadri 7M
Nuke 4M
Manson 2M

That would leave 6 million to get a goalie + a couple of depth pieces.
 
Ok, maybe take a breath and chill for a second. It is a milestone whether or not you appreciate it. I'm sure there are thousands of budding Muslim hockey players out there who just witnessed someone they can relate to lift the greatest prize in the sport. It is inspirational for them to see it can be done and that someone like them can be successful. I am all for pushing diversity, celebrating things like this, and encouraging more kids around to world to follow their passions. Especially after the shit Naz received from Blues fans, this is a great moment and one definitely worth celebrating.
Sports should be the leader of equality. Headlining differences is divisive. It gives voice to those who want to separate us. Winning and losing is all there should be
 
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If Sakic succeeds in signing Kadri, Nuke and Lehky for those numbers I am flying to Denver and kissing Sakic right on the mouth.

There is absolutely no way these happen.
It's all about the structure of the deals , Kadri is pretty easy you sign him for 7 while paying peanuts in the final 3 or 4 years so he makes the uk of the deal in the first 3 or 4 and use the final years to reduce the AAV , Kadri could make 12.5 , 10 , 7 with most of it in bonus money then like 4 ish the fourth year and still wind up with a 5.5 AAV over the full term , if he takes 2,1,1, the final three years , that final 4 million can be bought out for 2 million cash plus a reduced cap hit spaced over a couple of years .He would be 35 and the deal will have paid him 35.5 actual over the 4 years . Teams have been playing the money game like this for years and he would sign a deal like this because he knows this team can win more than just the one cup if guys like him buy in , it really doesn't cost him much in the big picture , most people think he ends up getting 7 mill for 6 years somewhere thats 42 over 6 which is actually less than my suggestion , he could still play somewhere else after the buyout and make the difference if he wanted it but the chances of a contender offering 7x6 are almost zero , none of the contenders have the cap to do it so take a little less and maybe get a ring for each hand or more .

keep Kadri. keep Bura. keep Helm. keep everyone! (not named Kuemper)

lower Kadri cap hit giving him the max years we can and whenever that turns into a burden of contract, send him to Arizona or Seattle or some other crap dump team.
At least somebody here understands how NHL money works
 
It's all about the structure of the deals , Kadri is pretty easy you sign him for 7 while paying peanuts in the final 3 or 4 years so he makes the uk of the deal in the first 3 or 4 and use the final years to reduce the AAV , Kadri could make 12.5 , 10 , 7 with most of it in bonus money then like 4 ish the fourth year and still wind up with a 5.5 AAV over the full term , if he takes 2,1,1, the final three years , that final 4 million can be bought out for 2 million cash plus a reduced cap hit spaced over a couple of years .He would be 35 and the deal will have paid him 35.5 actual over the 4 years . Teams have been playing the money game like this for years and he would sign a deal like this because he knows this team can win more than just the one cup if guys like him buy in , it really doesn't cost him much in the big picture , most people think he ends up getting 7 mill for 6 years somewhere thats 42 over 6 which is actually less than my suggestion , he could still play somewhere else after the buyout and make the difference if he wanted it but the chances of a contender offering 7x6 are almost zero , none of the contenders have the cap to do it so take a little less and maybe get a ring for each hand or more .


At least somebody here understands how NHL money works
The new CBA has restrictions on how much you can front or backload a contract, so the salary in any single year can't be below a certain % of the AAV. Can't remember off the top of my head what it is but think it's probably like 60%.
 


I don't see it myself. Anaheim are rebuilding, not at the stage of signing 32 year olds.

If Kadri makes it to the market, Anaheim will offer a crap ton of cash. 100% guarantee they will. Whether that convinces Kadri or not is a different matter.
 
Nuke isn't too difficult either he has played for basically league minimum when he got here after making 2.9x2 at his peak money for Dallas , his last deal here was 2.5x 2 so giving him a stretched deal that is front loaded and see's him playing for 4-5 AAV is absolutely doable .
Lehkonen is another guy that played for 2.4x2 in Montreal then signed a 1 year sign and trade deal for 2.3 with the Habs who then dealt him to the Avs , any sort of raise plus some term will get him done .
Bura is the tough one he's coming off a 4.9 x 2 and he led the team with Kadri all year so he's going to want money like Rantanen or Landi , he's only 27 so you can't play the same term game as you can with Kadri so thats why I didn't include him , maybe EJ retires and frees up that 6 million but I doubt he leaves now when he thinks they can win again next year , it's going to be tough but maybe it can be done .
DK is the guy who probably gets left out in the cold Frankie was solid maybe even better than DK and with a rookie backup he can carry the regular season load , if he isn't lights out playoff ready we can find someone at the TDL to run with him in the playoffs .
 
Yes, I don't think Rangers can squeeze hi in with their cap situation. Top teams that realistically could do that are Calgary, Colorado, Carolina and maybe Pens depending on what they decide with Malkin/Letang. Colorado is actually in a very good position cap wise.

This is very much a fantasy, but imagine if we could do:

Burakowski 3,5M
Cogliano 2,5M
Kadri 7M
Nuke 4M
Manson 2M

That would leave 6 million to get a goalie + a couple of depth pieces.

The 'dance' is more about term than salary. There are big raises in 12 months for Mac and Byrum. Newhook and Meyers come off their ELC that year as well. So while Kadri at $7 might work for one year, how does that work afterwards? Furthermore, someone out there is going to pay Kadri $6 x 7 years, and his game does not lend itself to aging gracefully to 38 years of age.

Cogs we can likely get for a number lower than $2.5M. So that is good.
Somebody is going to pay Burky in excess of $5M.
Somebody is going to offer Nuke in excess of $5M
I'd love to have Manson at $2. I fear, though, that we will be outbid.

So I love your fantasy, but most of those numbers are below what the market will bid.
 
The new CBA has restrictions on how much you can front or backload a contract, so the salary in any single year can't be below a certain % of the AAV. Can't remember off the top of my head what it is but think it's probably like 60%.
That's why you pay it in bonus money look at Marner's deal the guy makes like 750k in salary on an AAV of 10.9 ,the firstbyear he took in a signing bonus of 15.25 on top of his 750k salary , my point is you can still play the game , look through Arizona and Ottawa's rosters you will find guys making peanuts in actual while carrying 4-5 in AAV thats how the Cap Floor teams climb over the minimum line . Plus there is nothing really new about the current CBA it was signed in 2013 and extended until 25/26 but the terms other than the temp covid escrow and return to play details are still the same .
 
The 'dance' is more about term than salary. There are big raises in 12 months for Mac and Byrum. Newhook and Meyers come off their ELC that year as well. So while Kadri at $7 might work for one year, how does that work afterwards? Furthermore, someone out there is going to pay Kadri $6 x 7 years, and his game does not lend itself to aging gracefully to 38 years of age.

Cogs we can likely get for a number lower than $2.5M. So that is good.
Somebody is going to pay Burky in excess of $5M.
Somebody is going to offer Nuke in excess of $5M
I'd love to have Manson at $2. I fear, though, that we will be outbid.

So I love your fantasy, but most of those numbers are below what the market will bid.
While I agree the open market can probably outbid for most of our unsigned players the lure of winning more cups is hard to put a price on , Nate is playing cheap and I think some of these guys are going to buy in and make deals that work , Cogs for sure , there is no doubt he will resign here for 1 million before he takes 2 somewhere else , theres a reason the cup was handed to him before Nate . Watch the EJ interview on Spittin Chiclets if you want to get a grasp on how this group functions . Burky is the tough one and there a part of me that really wishes someone who contributes less but makes more would just hang em up and walk away .
 
While I agree the open market can probably outbid for most of our unsigned players the lure of winning more cups is hard to put a price on , Nate is playing cheap and I think some of these guys are going to buy in and make deals that work , Cogs for sure , there is no doubt he will resign here for 1 million before he takes 2 somewhere else , theres a reason the cup was handed to him before Nate . Watch the EJ interview on Spittin Chiclets if you want to get a grasp on how this group functions . Burky is the tough one and there a part of me that really wishes someone who contributes less but makes more would just hang em up and walk away .

This TDL will surely go down as Sakic's best. Cogs / Helm / LOC have a combined cap hit of less than $3.5M. I agree that Cogs ( and almost certainly helm) would stick around next year at the same AVV.

Breaking up 9296 does distribute cost a bit, but the cap is the cap. Mac / Mikko /Landy/Makar will take up 42% of the entire cap once Mac's new contract kicks in.

I dream / hope / pray / beg that Sakic did not pull the LTIR trick with Landy this year, so that he can do it with EJ next year. Let EJ go play with horses until the playoffs, then have a miraculous recovery from the stubbed tow which made him miss the entire season.
 
That's why you pay it in bonus money look at Marner's deal the guy makes like 750k in salary on an AAV of 10.9 ,the firstbyear he took in a signing bonus of 15.25 on top of his 750k salary , my point is you can still play the game , look through Arizona and Ottawa's rosters you will find guys making peanuts in actual while carrying 4-5 in AAV thats how the Cap Floor teams climb over the minimum line . Plus there is nothing really new about the current CBA it was signed in 2013 and extended until 25/26 but the terms other than the temp covid escrow and return to play details are still the same .
Colorado aren't an organisation that tend to do signing bonuses. The only exceptions are Makar and Landeskog, but even then they only got $1m in their last and 6th years respectively. Kadri has had SB's too but he wasn't signed by the Avs.

I do agree with your idea in theory though.
 
The new CBA has restrictions on how much you can front or backload a contract, so the salary in any single year can't be below a certain % of the AAV. Can't remember off the top of my head what it is but think it's probably like 60%.
I actually think that no year can be more than a 60% variance from the highest paid year, not the AAV. And there is also something like no year-to-year variance can be greater than 25% (I think...I'm more iffy on this one.)
 
Colorado aren't an organisation that tend to do signing bonuses. The only exceptions are Makar and Landeskog, but even then they only got $1m in their last and 6th years respectively. Kadri has had SB's too but he wasn't signed by the Avs.

I do agree with your idea in theory though.
Yeah looking through the contracts it seems they don't have a history of it but theres no doubt the owner can afford to do business that way , he's paying DT on the Rams 24 million a year FFS lol he can shift to the new NHL business model , my numbers were examples that there is a way to get it done .
 
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This TDL will surely go down as Sakic's best. Cogs / Helm / LOC have a combined cap hit of less than $3.5M. I agree that Cogs ( and almost certainly helm) would stick around next year at the same AVV.

Breaking up 9296 does distribute cost a bit, but the cap is the cap. Mac / Mikko /Landy/Makar will take up 42% of the entire cap once Mac's new contract kicks in.

I dream / hope / pray / beg that Sakic did not pull the LTIR trick with Landy this year, so that he can do it with EJ next year. Let EJ go play with horses until the playoffs, then have a miraculous recovery from the stubbed tow which made him miss the entire season.
Now your thinking like a new era gm lol , Maybe we LTIR EJ and Landy both ? Landy only played 51 games this year we can make it to the post season without him . That would add 13 million to the pool , if we can't sign our pending FA's with 39 million in the can it's time for Sakic to walk away eh !
 
I joked last year that the Leafs should LTIR all of Mathews , Marner , Tavares and Nylander , take the 40 million and sign 5 or 6 of the very best UFA players in the league then come playoff time ice a freaking all-star team . We were 9-1-1 I believe on the nights we were without both Nate and Landy , those are presidents cup numbers any year , hmmmm.......
 
Ran into a girl at the grocery store, she told me that her brother's mother's daughter said Kadri would sign with avs for 6 years,37.275 million :).
 

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