Bednar has to be fired right?

[edevils]

I would say this next year will be his last unless he makes it to the WCF.

 

[Drake1588]

Bednar, no. Sakic & McFarland, maybe.

 

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Rantanen always rises to the the equation?

If Rantanen always rose to the equation he wouldn't have been traded and would have been given the Drai money that multiple people were reporting that his agent was seeking.

That Rantanen that showed up over the back half of the back half of the series hasn't been seen in Colorado since they won the cup. Anyways, Rantanen isn't the reason the Avs lost the series.

I don't understand this. Rantanen has unreal playoff stats and has better game 7 numbers than MacKinnon. Where does this 'he doesn't show up when it matters' come from?

 

[dmac7719]

I don't understand this. Rantanen has unreal playoff stats and has better game 7 numbers than MacKinnon. Where does this 'he doesn't show up when it matters' come from?

When you watch the those games, and not the box score, you would understand.

 

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When you watch the those games, and not the box score, you would understand.

So you're telling me he's scoring in the playoffs at 110 point pace but is an overall liability vs the competition?

How does that make sense over a 5 year sample? Since the cup run he's scored more points than any Avs forward and has better numbers than MacK in game 7s. What are we missing?

If you want to pick apart Rantanen then why aren't Avs fans going after the rest of the team, and even harder? What are you expecting of him that he's not doing? What are other players on the team bringing to the table during that same time frame that Rants wasn't?

 

[Fatass]

When you watch the those games, and not the box score, you would understand.

This makes no sense. Rantanen is a fantastic playoff performer. Heck, just look at his numbers these playoffs. Imo the Avs problem isn’t the coach. Keep the coach and for management.

 

[dmac7719]

So you're telling me he's scoring in the playoffs at 110 point pace but is an overall liability vs the competition?

How does that make sense over a 5 year sample?

Rantanen, when engaged, is one of, if not the best (yes my biased opinion) wingers in the game. Emphasis on when he is engaged. We're talking Jagr'esque type of dominating from the wing with his size and skill.

The problem is with Rantanen, is that when he is not engaged, it's just straight up bad. Look at the regular season post Avs trade and then now.

Just because Rantanen has more points than Mackinnon in G7's doesn't mean that he has played better than him

And I am clearly not talking about his current form. It's phenomenal. But that engagement has not always been there post cup win in both the regular season and playoffs when he was with the Avs.

 

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Rantanen, when engaged, is one of, if not the best (yes my biased opinion) wingers in the game. Emphasis on when he is engaged. We're talking Jagr'esque type of dominating from the wing with his size and skill.

The problem is with Rantanen, is that when he is not engaged, it's just straight up bad. Look at the regular season post Avs trade and then now.

Just because Rantanen has more points than Mackinnon in G7's doesn't mean that he has played better than him

And I am clearly not talking about his current form. It's phenomenal. But that engagement has not always been there post cup win in both the regular season and playoffs when he was with the Avs.

But what I'm not getting is if he's putting up all these points in the playoffs at a rate as high or higher than MacKinnon and he has better game 7 stats, wouldn't that lead to him playing that engaged type of hockey.

So again, if you want to pick at Rantanen that's fine but how were the other players on the team outperforming him? This is what doesn't make sense. Why are THEY not getting the criticism but it's focused at Rantanen instead?

I don't think over 90 playoff games you can be scoring at a 40G / 100P+ pace and not be a difference maker. It doesn't make sense over that long of a sample size.