Kadri

[Foppa2118]

The thing about Wilson's play on Panarin is that it wasn't a clear headshot.

Was it just as bad, if not worse than Kadri's play? I'd argue yes. But the DoPS and Parros can use the argument that it was a 'hockey play' since there is no precedent set violently tossing a player to the ground, and we all know that they also use injury for determining the severity of the play as well. Panarin looked fine afterwards and there wasn't any indication of Panarin being injured until the next day (IIRC) and after Parros already viewed the play. If Panarin was writing in pain or limp on the ice, Wilson would've got suspended.

Kadri's hit was a headshot, clear as day and they had no choice given Kadri's history and how they've dealt with those type of clear headshots in the past. Yes, they've missed plenty of other headshots throughout the season (Byram getting headshotted, or more recently Jost on Bortuzzo). But I can see how they can say those hits are in the gray area - there is no gray area in Kadri's case.

I agree with some of this, but it's hard to argue it was a hockey play when it was after the whistle and he slammed a smaller, helmet less star player to the ice on his head and ended his regular season with a concussion.

Especially when they claim to be concerned about player safety and concussions in hockey so much that they make you skate to the bench when you lose your helmet now, and Wilson had the same number of prior suspensions as Kadri when he did it.

If there should be anything they're trying to get out of the sport it's that play. The back of the head is the most vulnerable part of your body. Panarin easily could have lost his life there.

 

[The Abusement Park]

The moral of this story is. If Kadri didn’t put himself in this situation AGAIN this conversation wouldn’t even be happening right now. He should be smart enough to know he wasn’t going to get an easy ride with another dirty play.

 

[Foppa2118]

The moral of this story is. If Kadri didn’t put himself in this situation AGAIN this conversation wouldn’t even be happening right now. He should be smart enough to know he wasn’t going to get an easy ride with another dirty play.

I definitely agree with this.

 

[Tweaky]

The 8 games for Kadri is fine, given that he has already been suspended for 3 and 5 PLAYOFF games for prior headshots. Eight games seems like a logical progression.

I understand the disconnect folks have with the disparity in treatment for Wilson and Kadri. Wilson got a fine for the Rangers incident in which he injured two players, despite having been suspended for an injury causing incident earlier this season, yet Kadri gets hit with 8 games for injuring one even though his last discipline was over two years ago. People are going to look for reasons why. I do not have answers to that.

I do have to wonder though...that Wilson suspension earlier in the season for his hit on Carlo that ended up costing him 7 games. It was a bit over two years after him getting suspended 20 games (appealed down to 14, with 16 served) for another head hit. Why did Wilson's suspension length do DOWN after a subsequent dirty hit? What are the objective differences between the two players? I can think of a few (play for diff teams, Parros got traded away from one of the offending teams...and he was reportedly teased by other members of that team which include that teams current GM, possible personal connections. Oh, and skin color and religion. There might be others as well.

 

[Balthazar]

The moral of this story is. If Kadri didn’t put himself in this situation AGAIN this conversation wouldn’t even be happening right now. He should be smart enough to know he wasn’t going to get an easy ride with another dirty play.

And now he's putting his team in trouble.

 

[21]

Maybe this was his last game for the Avs? Since Bednar is a really nice coach we will probably see him again though depending on how well the team will play without him. Until then somebody else need to step up now, simple as that.

Now let's focus on winning, this thread is starting to annoy me, too much talk about a huge disappointment the entire season. Why focus on something negative when we have the best team since the Cup winning era? We should be pumped and happy, not focusing on a disappointment getting a suspension.

It is Kadri getting a suspension, not Landeskog.

NHL perhaps tried to redeem themselves after the soft punishment they gave Wilson? It should have been 5 games maximum for Kadri. It's shocking the NHL thought Wilson's way of playing was pretty ok, next time they may get him a reward, "The NHL Cheapshot Trophy"? I'm really dissapointed because I thought the NHL was a league for men, not for cheapshot artists with the NHL almost indirectly encouraging the behavior? I would happily have somebody taken a long punishment for revenging a coward like Wilson (but not using a cheapshot, by using the fists, face to face), I would applaud it.

 

[Metallo]

I don’t think Kadri meant to hurt him but is it possible that the Kadri hit stems from him trying to provide physicality since he’s not scoring?

Kadri looked lost these past few weeks, contributing nothing and without a clear role on the team.

 

[Metallo]

The 8 games for Kadri is fine, given that he has already been suspended for 3 and 5 PLAYOFF games for prior headshots. Eight games seems like a logical progression.

I understand the disconnect folks have with the disparity in treatment for Wilson and Kadri. Wilson got a fine for the Rangers incident in which he injured two players, despite having been suspended for an injury causing incident earlier this season, yet Kadri gets hit with 8 games for injuring one even though his last discipline was over two years ago. People are going to look for reasons why. I do not have answers to that.

I do have to wonder though...that Wilson suspension earlier in the season for his hit on Carlo that ended up costing him 7 games. It was a bit over two years after him getting suspended 20 games (appealed down to 14, with 16 served) for another head hit. Why did Wilson's suspension length do DOWN after a subsequent dirty hit? What are the objective differences between the two players? I can think of a few (play for diff teams, Parros got traded away from one of the offending teams...and he was reportedly teased by other members of that team which include that teams current GM, possible personal connections. Oh, and skin color and religion. There might be others as well.

Parros was teased by Avs tesmates and Sakic? I don’t know that story, can you explain?

 

[Freudian]

I'm a bit surprised he hasn't appealed. The odds of getting more games is minimal and the odds of Bettman shaving a couple of games is decent.

 

[flyfysher]

I'm a bit surprised he hasn't appealed. The odds of getting more games is minimal and the odds of Bettman shaving a couple of games is decent.

I doubt the Avs will appeal. Sakic and JB have probably moved on already. I just want Kadri to play a disciplined game in JB’s system, even if it means he’s not scoring a lot of points at first. Kadri needs to focus on that first.

 

[Avs_19]

I doubt the Avs will appeal. Sakic and JB have probably moved on already. I just want Kadri to play a disciplined game in JB’s system, even if it means he’s not scoring a lot of points at first. Kadri needs to focus on that first.

I believe Kadri is the one who decides if there's an appeal, not the Avs. Friedman said tonight is the deadline to appeal.

 

[Vaslof]

He should appeal it. I mean I'd be okay if this was the new standard, but he does have a case for lowering it by comparing it to other punishments.

 

[AllAboutAvs]

The usual playoffs-Kadri is a big lost for the upcoming Avs-Vegas series but the way Kadri has played this year I think we are a better team with Newhook and Jost as our 2C and 3C whichever order you want. Kadri isn't providing much this year when he is not producing points. Might as well see what we have in Newhook for next year.

 

[AvsMakar08]

I’m not debating it was a bad play, but the Boston play was far more deliberate. This one happened at high speed.

I’m not saying that it shouldn’t have been a suspension, just that 8 games was excessive.

Yeah, I will have flashbacks of Kadri hit if we play Boston in finals. We will have to tell Naz to behave.

 

[NOTENOUGHJTCGOALS]

The usual playoffs-Kadri is a big lost for the upcoming Avs-Vegas series but the way Kadri has played this year I think we are a better team with Newhook and Jost as our 2C and 3C whichever order you want. Kadri isn't providing much this year when he is not producing points. Might as well see what we have in Newhook for next year.

3 out of 4 seasons with a big suspension and very little production. This is playoffs Kadri. If the Avs somehow get a cream puff matchup where Kadri can feast on a garbage team like the coyotes were then you'll see some production.

 

[forsbergavs32]

I know Bednar didn’t want to disrupt the lines very much but I really think he needs to with Kadri out as Compher won’t be the one get the 2nd line going. Jost really needs to be up there as he’s been driving the play very well. Plus I think this game 4 is a good opportunity to maybe give Newhook a bit more time after he had a really good game.

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[Avs_19]

 

[dahrougem2]

I have a feeling if it even does get reduced, it'll only be by a game. Allow him to return for game 6 of a 2nd round series instead of having to hope for game 7.

 

[Bill Peckerskull]

 

[Garavar]

I have a feeling if it even does get reduced, it'll only be by a game. Allow him to return for game 6 of a 2nd round series instead of having to hope for game 7.

Shouldn't even be 5 games but if it gets reduced to 6 it will be fair enough

 

[Colorado Avalanche]

Right move. Reduce the ban by few games and it's fine.

 

[littletonhockeycoach]

My prediction: Bettman ain't touching this. Daley is gonna preside and he's gonna support the current decision.

 

[S E P H]

Which he will because Bettman will keep to Parros punishment and then he'll get it reduced to five/six games.

 

[forsbergavs32]

How long could this appeal end up taking between the hearing with the league and if it has to go to a third party arbitrator? Just wondering if this process ends up taking so long he serves 8 anyway

 

[RockLobster]

How long could this appeal end up taking between the hearing with the league and if it has to go to a third party arbitrator? Just wondering if this process ends up taking so long he serves 8 anyway

I could be wrong but I believe it would include the 2 games already served (G3 and G4 against the Blues). So at most he has 6 remaining, and given that it seems like history is on his side (as it pertains to independent arbitrators ruling in favor of players), he could have as little as 3 remaining (I use that number because I believe he has a good shot at getting it reduced to 5)