Kadri

[forsbergavs32]

I could be wrong but I believe it would include the 2 games already served (G3 and G4 against the Blues). So at most he has 6 remaining, and given that it seems like history is on his side (as it pertains to independent arbitrators ruling in favor of players), he could have as little as 3 remaining (I use that number because I believe he has a good shot at getting it reduced to 5)

Makes sense, I was more wondering about the process itself. If they take a week to get to his hearing with Bettman then it takes another week or so for it to go to the third party. Couldn’t he have potentially already served close to 8 games by the time that process is done if they start our next series in the next few day?

I might also just be overthinking it too

 

[dahrougem2]

Let's just hope the league doesn't try to start the 2nd round before the 1st round ends so that Kadri has a lot of time to actually appeal this through a 3rd party

 

[Balthazar]

My prediction: Bettman ain't touching this. Daley is gonna preside and he's gonna support the current decision.

Yep. Bettman backed the DoPS during the last controversy and fined the hell out of the Rangers, he's not going to reverse their very next decision. Might as well hire new guys if he goes there.

 

[Tweaky]

Parros was teased by Avs tesmates and Sakic? I don’t know that story, can you explain?

My mistake, that was supposed to have a question mark on it. Just spitballng reasons why Parros might not like the Avs.

I did read a story abotu the team giving him crap for shaving his moustache when he first got to Colorado, but I imagine it took him about 16 hours to grow it back.

 

[Bill Peckerskull]

 

[Bill Peckerskull]

NHL Rumor Mill – May 25, 2021 | Spectors Hockey

SHOULD THE RANGERS PURSUE KADRI?

NEW YORK POST: Larry Brooks suggests the Rangers should consider acquiring Nazem Kadri if the Colorado Avalanche dangles the 30-year-old center on the trade market this summer. Kadri is serving his third playoff suspension in four years and the sixth overall in his nine NHL season.

Despite Kadri’s suspension history, Brooks thinks he could be the type of “nasty, jagged-edge, checking-type center who can score” that the Rangers need.

SPECTOR’S NOTE: Maybe Rangers GM Chris Drury would consider it if Kadri is shopped this summer. However, they would better off acquiring a physical forward who isn’t as reckless as the Avalanche center.

 

[Richard88]

NHL Rumor Mill – May 25, 2021 | Spectors Hockey

What would be a fair ask from NYR for Kadri?

 

[JoeSakic13]

What would be a fair ask from NYR for Kadri?

I honestly don’t see any names that make sense as a non-fan off the Rangers. Lots of guys on either super long contracts or are super young and full of potential. So maybe one of the guys stuck in a logjam position?

 

[BrickNHL]

NHL Rumor Mill – May 25, 2021 | Spectors Hockey

Checking type? When and where?

 

[Balthazar]

NHL Rumor Mill – May 25, 2021 | Spectors Hockey

Even on a good day Kadri is nothing of those things.

 

[Freudian]

I'm sure Brooks and Rangers fans alike think Strome is going to do it.

 

[lonelybadger]

My guess is appeal to Bettman Thursday, denied Friday and then the arbitrator early next week just in time to have it reduced and play in game 4.

 

[MarkT]

I wonder if there really are any current NHL GMs out there who are dumb enough to think that his hit against Faulk means he's a physical, hard-checking player. I can sort of see the narrative - Bednar has been holding him back, and he'll achieve true greatness once he has a coach that lets him loose. I kind of assume we're keeping him, but if that GM exists...

 

[Hasbro]

NHL Rumor Mill – May 25, 2021 | Spectors Hockey

Hopefully this is the Rangers using Brooks to leak.

 

[Richard88]

I honestly don’t see any names that make sense as a non-fan off the Rangers. Lots of guys on either super long contracts or are super young and full of potential. So maybe one of the guys stuck in a logjam position?

Ideally we'd be getting a younger 2C back, but NYR have none to offer. It would probably have to be futures or younger players. Maybe something like Kravtsov + Morgan Barron + pick(s)

 

[MarkT]

It's a tough situation. If we trade Kadri, we're probably back to square one where were relying on Jost etc to be out #2 center. If we keep him though, we might end up with the same version of him we got in the second half of this season.

Next season I think we'll be a big one in terms of determining long-term what happens at our 2C position. I still hold we already have the guy on our roster (Landeskog), but I'm not holding out hope that the Avs will agree with me.

 

[Iceberg]

Again with the Landeskog at center talk?

 

[cannucky]

Wow people forget he racked up most of his points when the top players were hurt , his line became the 1 line for a couple of weeks and dominated , as a long time Kadri watcher I can tell you he needs to be The Guy sometimes but when he has to be The Guy he responds . When he gets buried deep in the lineup he gets in his own head , I think it Stems from the BS Wilson and Burkie pulled when he was breaking into the league .

 

[cannucky]

Oh and Parros will always see him as a team mate of the guy who ended his goon career with a right hook .

 

[MarkT]

Again with the Landeskog at center talk?

Feel free to ignore it. I don't plan to stop having that opinion, and I don't plan to stop sharing my opinions on a message board about sharing opinions.

Wow people forget he racked up most of his points when the top players were hurt , his line became the 1 line for a couple of weeks and dominated , as a long time Kadri watcher I can tell you he needs to be The Guy sometimes but when he has to be The Guy he responds . When he gets buried deep in the lineup he gets in his own head , I think it Stems from the BS Wilson and Burkie pulled when he was breaking into the league .

The thing with Kadri is that even when he's putting up points he's rarely dominating play or playing a great 200-ft game. When he's scoring and winning faceoffs, that's enough to put him on the positive side of his overall impact on the game. When he's not scoring though? Outside of winning those faceoffs, he's a huge negative on the team and actually hurts the play of his linemates. I've watched him literally kill the hot streaks of guys placed on his line to help get him going.

My one hope was that he'd elevate his play again in the playoffs, and while there were signs of that starting to happen in the series, he's not very helpful when he gets himself suspended for a stupid, reckless, dangerous hit. Many Leafs fans warned us about the suspension stuff, but I watched the thing with Debrusk when it happened and I could live with that - he gets himself suspended for defending a teammate. Trying for the big hit on a guy following through on his shot? We don't need that shit on this team.

I'm honestly tired of players like him who can't get out of their own heads or adjust the way they play to be useful when they're not scoring. I'd accept that from a young player and chalk it up to immaturity. But the man is 30 years old. It's time for him to grow up.

 

[Iceberg]

Feel free to ignore it. I don't plan to stop having that opinion, and I don't plan to stop sharing my opinions on a message board about sharing opinions.

No worries, you can bring it up every week (or day), but you should realize that you're not making any sense.

Just a few weeks ago you stated Landeskog was already the center on the MacKinnon line, at the same time you say Landeskog could be the solution as the 2C...

 

[MarkT]

No worries, you can bring it up every week (or day), but you should realize that you're not making any sense.

Just a few weeks ago you stated Landeskog was already the center on the MacKinnon line, at the same time you say Landeskog could be the solution as the 2C...

Those two thoughts are compatible though. I'm suggesting that MacKinnon and Rantanen split the role of #1 center and Landeskog moves to 2C rather than the 1C he is right now. MacKinnon has been playing more and more center lately too, so it wouldn't be a tough transition. Ideally of course the top line just stays together and remains dominant, but we seem to be lacking a really good #2 center option, and we have several guys who could fill in for Landy on that top line.

 

[Richard88]

Those two thoughts are compatible though. I'm suggesting that MacKinnon and Rantanen split the role of #1 center and Landeskog moves to 2C rather than the 1C he is right now. MacKinnon has been playing more and more center lately too, so it wouldn't be a tough transition. Ideally of course the top line just stays together and remains dominant, but we seem to be lacking a really good #2 center option, and we have several guys who could fill in for Landy on that top line.

The underlying metrics for the first line with and without Landeskog have been poated here tine and time again and show that the line is far better with Landeskog on it than without him. With him its a top 2-3 line in the league (probably no.1), but without him its only above average conpared to other 1st lines.

 

[MarkT]

The underlying metrics for the first line with and without Landeskog have been poated here tine and time again and show that the line is far better with Landeskog on it than without him. With him its a top 2-3 line in the league (probably no.1), but without him its only above average conpared to other 1st lines.

How old are those metrics though? With MacKinnon's apparent commitment to a 200ft game and Mikko's improved backchecking, I think they can still be a dominant line without him.

I mean, would you rather have:

Saad - MacKinnon - Rantanen
Nichushkin - Landeskog - Burakovsky

or

Landeskog - MacKinnon - Rantanen
Saad - Jost - Burakovsky

 

[Balthazar]

Again with the Landeskog at center talk?

As long as Bednar is the coach he's not going to break the first line permanently. So it won't be Landy or Rants centering the 2nd line. Ever.