Kadri

[Bill Peckerskull]

Delete. Already addressed

 

[Foppa2118]

That was Bennett’s first suspension. Outside of Wilson your talking about a guys who’s been suspended 6x more than them. The punishments aren’t the same in that case.

Many of the counter points I'm seeing though involve some form of 'take Wilson out of the equation.'

This isn't a fair way to evaluate a situation. You can't just remove the variables that are bad for your position.

If you remove the examples that make it a double standard, of course it's not going to look like a double standard. But when you leave them in, this is obviously a double standard, and deserves to be called out as such IMO.

 

[The Abusement Park]

Many of the counter points I'm seeing though involve some form of 'take Wilson out of the equation.'

This isn't a fair way to evaluate a situation. You can't just remove the variables that are bad for your position.

If you remove the examples that make it a double standard, of course it's not going to look like a double standard. But when you leave them in, this is obviously a double standard, and deserves to be called out as such IMO.

You also can’t bring in guys who have never been suspended or have only been suspended once and compare that to someone who’s been suspended 6 times.

I’m sure he’s going to appeal, bring up the Wilson situation and get a game or two taken off. But in the grand scheme of things this suspension makes sense.

 

[Foppa2118]

You also can’t bring in guys who have never been suspended or have only been suspended once and compare that to someone who’s been suspended 6 times.

I’m sure he’s going to appeal, bring up the Wilson situation and get a game or two taken off. But in the grand scheme of things this suspension makes sense.

Ok just leave it as Tom Wilson's no suspension with basically the same history versus Kadri's suspension.

Is it a double standard or not?

 

[Garavar]

It's clearly cause he is Muslim and Parros hates Muslims. Fire Parros.

 

[The Abusement Park]

Ok just leave it as Tom Wilson's no suspension with basically the same history versus Kadri's suspension.

Is it a double standard or not?

I’ve already said that was not the correct decision, they made a mistake, and yes in the end it’s a double standard. But that also doesn’t mean that the decision they made with Kadri was necessarily wrong.

 

[Garavar]

 

[Foppa2118]

I’ve already said that was not the correct decision, they made a mistake, and yes in the end it’s a double standard. But that also doesn’t mean that the decision they made with Kadri was necessarily wrong.

These two sentences seem to contradict each other though.

 

[The Abusement Park]

These two sentences seem to contradict each other though.

Kadri’s punishment fits the crime end of.

 

[PAZ]

You don’t just keep upping the games regardless of what the incident is.

This play was reckless and deserved a suspension, but wasn’t as bad as what he did against Boston.

That's exactly what you do when it's a repeat offender who just committed a reckless hit that deserves a suspension. Kadri doesn't deserve any benefit of the doubt.

Can you imagine if Wilson did that same hit to Makar in the playoffs? There is no way you're telling me you think that hit would only deserve 3-4 games considering Wilson's history.

 

[Leafsforever89]

1967.

It was a great year!

 

[Andrew Wiggin]

Repeat offender status only affects pay.

Per the rules I guess, but if I am totally buying that they wouldn't have used "time since last infraction" as a reason for no suspension for Wilson.

 

[Hasbro]

Hopefully Kadri is out until midway through the semis.

 

[Andrew Wiggin]

It appears. The unfortunate part is that nobody (likely) even had a thought cross their mind about the colour of Kadri’s skin color yet Aliu who is this big advocate of racism is the one who makes it about race.

Actually, color was unfortunately the first thing that I considered . I defend him because he is burgundy and blue and not red and white or black and gold. Not sure what that says about me.....

 

[niwotsblessing]

It was a great year!

It'll certainly take the leaves forever to win another Cup.

 

[Northern Avs Fan]

That's exactly what you do when it's a repeat offender who just committed a reckless hit that deserves a suspension. Kadri doesn't deserve any benefit of the doubt.

Can you imagine if Wilson did that same hit to Makar in the playoffs? There is no way you're telling me you think that hit would only deserve 3-4 games considering Wilson's history.

If it happened to Makar I’d be calling for a life ban and for his children and grandchildren to not be allowed to play NHL hockey.

 

[Foppa2118]

Dude that was as bad as it gets. Blindside hit straight to the head causing instant concussion, Faulk was out cold. That's the same hit that cost Marc Savard and many others their career. This is textbook the kind of hit that the NHL is trying to get rid of.

Definitely not as bad as it gets. It was bad, but we've seen much much worse.

Many of Tom Wilson's plays are more dangerous and seemingly with intent to injure, while Kadri was just reckless and mis timed his angle.

 

[Balthazar]

Definitely not as bad as it gets. It was bad, but we've seen much much worse.

Many of Tom Wilson's plays are more dangerous and seemingly with intent to injure, while Kadri was just reckless and mis timed his angle.

What Wilson did last time against the Rags is nothing compared to what Kadri did. Nothing.

 

[Foppa2118]

What Wilson did last time against the Rags is nothing compared to what Kadri did. Nothing.

You can't believe Kadri's hit was worse than these do you? Not to mention a plethora of other bad hits in the past from other players.

 

[RockLobster]

You can't believe Kadri's hit was worse than these do you? Not to mention a plethora of other bad hits in the past from other players.

Let me first preface by saying I don’t believe that race was THE motivating factor, only that I’m not surprised it has become a question, nor would I be surprised if it played a very small role (but that’s just pure conjecture and nigh impossible to prove).

That said I’m not sure you can compare this Kadri hit to any of these you are posting from Wilson. I’d say you can compare the lack of suspension from his bullshit against the Rangers, and I think you can look at the recent playoff stuff (specifically Orlov not getting anything at all), and question the DoPS.

There’s no question Kadri deserves a suspension. I personally think it should be around 5 games given the lack of action taken on a more serious prior offender. That’s where I get upset.

 

[Northern Avs Fan]

You can't believe Kadri's hit was worse than these do you? Not to mention a plethora of other bad hits in the past from other players.

Yep. Those are all worse.

 

[Foppa2118]

Let me first preface by saying I don’t believe that race was THE motivating factor, only that I’m not surprised it has become a question, nor would I be surprised if it played a very small role (but that’s just pure conjecture and nigh impossible to prove).

That said I’m not sure you can compare this Kadri hit to any of these you are posting from Wilson. I’d say you can compare the lack of suspension from his bullshit against the Rangers, and I think you can look at the recent playoff stuff (specifically Orlov not getting anything at all), and question the DoPS.

There’s no question Kadri deserves a suspension. I personally think it should be around 5 games given the lack of action taken on a more serious prior offender. That’s where I get upset.

To be clear I'm not brining race into this. Too hard to know if that was a factor or just incompetence.

But why can't you compare Kadri's hit to this one from Wilson? It's the exact same play but worse. I'm just saying Kadri's hit isn't as bad as it gets, as was suggested.

 

[RockLobster]

To be clear I'm not brining race into this. Too hard to know if that was a factor or just incompetence.

But why can't you compare Kadri's hit to this one from Wilson? It's the exact same play but worse. I'm just saying Kadri's hit isn't as bad as it gets, as was suggested.

Was he suspended for it? That would be my first question. Beyond that I’d say that the point of a double standard is made when comparing Wilson’s fine (which should have been a suspension) vs. Kadri’s suspension (which should have happened but is on the excessive side imo)

 

[Foppa2118]

Was he suspended for it? That would be my first question. Beyond that I’d say that the point of a double standard is made when comparing Wilson’s fine (which should have been a suspension) vs. Kadri’s suspension (which should have happened but is on the excessive side imo)

He was suspended. But those clips I posted were just in response to Balthazar saying Kadri's hit was as bad as it gets.

My point about the double standard is in regard to Wilson's $5k fine on the Panarin play.

I think we more or less agree on the second point, because I also think Kadri's suspension was excessive and five playoff games would have been a more fair number.

 

[PAZ]

The thing about Wilson's play on Panarin is that it wasn't a clear headshot.

Was it just as bad, if not worse than Kadri's play? I'd argue yes. But the DoPS and Parros can use the argument that it was a 'hockey play' since there is no precedent set violently tossing a player to the ground, and we all know that they also use injury for determining the severity of the play as well. Panarin looked fine afterwards and there wasn't any indication of Panarin being injured until the next day (IIRC) and after Parros already viewed the play. If Panarin was writing in pain or limp on the ice, Wilson would've got suspended.

Kadri's hit was a headshot, clear as day and they had no choice given Kadri's history and how they've dealt with those type of clear headshots in the past. Yes, they've missed plenty of other headshots throughout the season (Byram getting headshotted, or more recently Jost on Bortuzzo). But I can see how they can say those hits are in the gray area - there is no gray area in Kadri's case.