Juraj Slafkovsky - Year Two

[417]

It can even be seen as some sort of compliment for Slaf. I see Slaf as a legit NHLer, at least as much Kilger was.

And offensively he’s shown no more than Kilger. Kilger had the hardest shot in the NHL. And Slaf’s 2 goals is wretched this late in the season. Same goes for Cooley, who’s on the bubble between the 3rd and 4th line in goal production for the Coyotes.

At no point did Kilger have the hardest shot in the NHL and if you're talking about Slaf not showing more than the Kilger who played in Montreal, I'd tell you that by the time Kilger got to Montreal, he was in his 8th season.

To each his own but I don't see any similarities at all between both players.

 

[Kennerback]

At no point did Kilger have the hardest shot in the NHL and if you're talking about Slaf not showing more than the Kilger who played in Montreal, I'd tell you that by the time Kilger got to Montreal, he was in his 8th season.

To each his own but I don't see any similarities at all between both players.

I won’t bother looking it up but just trust me on this one, he did have the hardest shot.

Kilger was big, strong and very fast and had a canon for a shot but perhaps the worst release and accuracy in the NHL.

 

[Kennerback]

Good point for the 8 years. Kilger was already pegged as an energy player that would basically skate fast and hit by the time he got to Montreal. So he was a bit invisible in that no one had expectations, but i assume he must have been seen highly when he first stepped in the nhl after he had been drafted 4OA by the Ducks.

 

[Jaynki]

He would be developping chemistry with Roy, Farrell, Mailloux, Trudeau and Struble, all of which he is likely to play with in the future. Again, that's a non-issue.

The obvious is I don't think St-Louis is any better of a coach than JFH and I'm also pretty sure that Adam Nicholas can take the REM between Laval and Brossard.


No, he has the players shoot at the weird colorful flags they have all over nepal.

Developing chemistry with Roy, Farrell, Mailloux, Trudeau and Struble

The guy with who he is gonna play in the future, he is already playing with them.

Also, its obvious that Houle is a better coach than MSL?

 

[Mrb1p]

Developing chemistry with Roy, Farrell, Mailloux, Trudeau and Struble

The guy with who he is gonna play in the future, he is already playing with them.

Also, its obvious that Houle is a better coach than MSL?

You can't read, and he's just as likely of playing with Roy than Cole and Nick because Roys a surefire top 6er.

 

[DAChampion]

Developing chemistry with Roy, Farrell, Mailloux, Trudeau and Struble

Four of those five are legitimate prospects.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

That is a gross exaggeration.

It’s disengenous bullshit. And not worth replying to.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

You can't read, and he's just as likely of playing with Roy than Cole and Nick because Roys a surefire top 6er.

Roy is older and we know more about him. It doesn’t make sense to compare two guys who are at completely different stages of their development.

And yeah, I’m pretty excited about him joining us. I’m hopeful it comes next year.

 

[Mrb1p]

Roy is older and we know more about him. It doesn’t make sense to compare two guys who are at completely different stages of their development.

And yeah, I’m pretty excited about him joining us. I’m hopeful it comes next year.

He's 7 months older, how different are their development stages ? Its the same difference between Roy and Slaf and between Reinbacher and Slaf. Hardly any different lol.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

He's 7 months older, how different are their development stages ? It’s the same difference between Roy and Slaf and between Reinbacher and Slaf. Hardly any different lol.

One guy has been in the minors for three years used in the first line and the other has less than 60 games in the NHL mostly on the bottom six.

You don’t see a difference there?

 

[Mrb1p]

One guy has been in the minors for three years used in the first line and the other has less than 60 games in the NHL mostly on the bottom six.

You don’t see a difference there?

Yes I see it, lmao. Thats the whole point.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

Yes I see it, lmao. Thats the whole point.

???

 

[417]

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I think he's saying that Roy, unlike Slaf, has played a top line role at lower levels and he's in the AHL, unlike Slaf who I guess has a smaller sample of being a top line player at lower levels, yet is in the NHL.

 

[Sorinth]

I just wanna point out that Hughes said those things almost a year ago.
So, almost a year passed and Slaf's progress moves at snail's pace in NHL.
If you point out Droiun and the fact that playing in juniors reinforced junior hockey habits then we can already send Mesar back to home in Slovakia since the kid is in juniors in his D+2 season.

Slaf progressing at a snails's pace is an opinion that I don't buy, I've seen lots of progress in his game. And it's probably safe to say that management sees good progression as well.

And your completely misrepresenting what I said about Drouin.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

I think he's saying that Roy, unlike Slaf, has played a top line role at lower levels and he's in the AHL, unlike Slaf who I guess has a smaller sample of being a top line player at lower levels, yet is in the NHL.

And somehow their production should be similar?

I have no idea what he’s trying to say.

 

[Mrb1p]

And somehow their production should be similar?

I have no idea what he’s trying to say.

I don't even know what youre saying. You barged in on a conversation and tried to white knight Slaf for some reason.

 

[nhlfan9191]

There was a group of posters in the GDT that tried to downplay his goal by saying it was type journeymen players score. It’s gotten to be absurd

That poster was me. And I meant what I said although I’ll give more context to what I was trying to say because it sounds awful when you write it like that. When I think of a top talent that’s good enough to make the NHL at 18, not even necessarily a first overall, top 5, whatever you want to label him, I think of a kid that does at least a few things exceptionally that allow him to play in this league at such a young age. I still to this day haven’t identified what specific traits St. Louis and company are seeing when I watch the games so personally I’m frustrated. When I mentioned the “journeyman goal”, I meant there was nothing that special about the play. When you’re playing close to 15 minutes a night, you’re going to be in the right place at the right time every now and then. The points are nice for a confidence boost for sure, but did he learn a lot beating a goalie on a broken play on Boston’s end that found him wide open in the slot? Ryan Poehling had 3 points tonight. I don’t think anyone will be talking about how he’s turning things around now with his 5 points in 15 games. And I’m aware Poehling’s older obviously, he just fits the journeyman narrative for argument sake. My reaction comes from fans I view as overacting on small positive things just like there’s a lot of fans who I know view posters like myself as haters when we criticize.

That said, I’m done talking about this kid. Let the cards fall where they fall with him. It doesn’t look like the AHL is going to be an option so we’ll find out if there’s a method to the madness with how they’ve approached this prospect.

 

[Frank Drebin]

I didn't like the player much but it seems to me he's playing better lately. He's not going to be jaromir jagr but maybe a useful second liner down the road?

 

[Heffyhoof]

I didn't like the player much but it seems to me he's playing better lately. He's not going to be jaromir jagr but maybe a useful second liner down the road?

I get it's mostly for trolling and shock value, but do you actually believe this backhanded insult?

 

[Kennerback]

I still to this day haven’t identified what specific traits St. Louis and company are seeing when I watch the games so personally I’m frustrated.

I think MSL sees a player that’s big, not awful defensively, that forechecks hard. Wins the odd board battle. Might keep a puck possession going. Enough for a coach, not much for a fan.

When I mentioned the “journeyman goal”, I meant there was nothing that special about the play. When you’re playing close to 15 minutes a night, you’re going to be in the right place at the right time every now and then.

It’s a goal a journeyman could score. It’ll only be special if it’s part of an ongoing pattern. Not just a one-off. Maybe there’s some latent offensive skill that’s been learned before pro hockey that hasn’t been unlocked yet. I don’t know that much can be learned offensively at 19.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

That poster was me. And I meant what I said although I’ll give more context to what I was trying to say because it sounds awful when you write it like that. When I think of a top talent that’s good enough to make the NHL at 18, not even necessarily a first overall, top 5, whatever you want to label him, I think of a kid that does at least a few things exceptionally that allow him to play in this league at such a young age. I still to this day haven’t identified what specific traits St. Louis and company are seeing when I watch the games so personally I’m frustrated. When I mentioned the “journeyman goal”, I meant there was nothing that special about the play. When you’re playing close to 15 minutes a night, you’re going to be in the right place at the right time every now and then. The points are nice for a confidence boost for sure, but did he learn a lot beating a goalie on a broken play on Boston’s end that found him wide open in the slot? Ryan Poehling had 3 points tonight. I don’t think anyone will be talking about how he’s turning things around now with his 5 points in 15 games. And I’m aware Poehling’s older obviously, he just fits the journeyman narrative for argument sake. My reaction comes from fans I view as overacting on small positive things just like there’s a lot of fans who I know view posters like myself as haters when we criticize.

That said, I’m done talking about this kid. Let the cards fall where they fall with him. It doesn’t look like the AHL is going to be an option so we’ll find out if there’s a method to the madness with how they’ve approached this prospect.

It’s pretty funny that he has multiple pretty setups and scoring chances in some good games and gets zilch. Then we get pulverized and he gets two points. Just the way the puck bounces.

I think MSL sees a player that’s big, not awful defensively, that forechecks hard. Wins the odd board battle. Might keep a puck possession going. Enough for a coach, not much for a fan.



It’s a goal a journeyman could score. It’ll only be special if it’s part of an ongoing pattern. Not just a one-off. Maybe there’s some latent offensive skill that’s been learned before pro hockey that hasn’t been unlocked yet. I don’t know that much can be learned offensively at 19.

It sure seems like they want him to learn a cerain way of playing. But I’m not a fan of them holding him back this long. I’m glad he finally got some minutes with better players. I really hope they don’t go back on that.

 

[calder candidate]

He improving but he still isn’t moving is feet enough, spend to much time gliding with one hand on is stick readjusting elbow pad or helmet to me those sign that he is trying to keep is head above the water and play safe instead of being aggressive.

 

[Lshap]

I get it's mostly for trolling and shock value, but do you actually believe this backhanded insult?

I didn't read "Useful second liner" as a backhanded insult. It translates to a 50-60 point player, which wouldn't be a bad outcome for Slaf.

 

[Heffyhoof]

I didn't read "Useful second liner" as a backhanded insult. It translates to a 50-60 point player, which wouldn't be a bad outcome for Slaf.

Seriously? Do we have to play the pretend game where we all make believe that we don't notice the obvious subtext? Saying the first overall pick of a team on their own forum "might be a useful second line player" after less than 60 games played since he was drafted is obviously done with the intent to have a bit of fun, doubly so after he finally posted some points.

 

[BaseballCoach]

It's hyperbole on all sides.

Yes, he could have back checked harder, and maybe the extra pressure could have prevented a goal. Also Barron should have started back earlier and really Allen should have had that one.

Slaf didn't look great on that play, granted.

But focusing on Slafs role on that play, when he's 19 years old, had a great overall game, and there are a dozen or more guys who are more worthy of criticism, is what's confusing to me.

Slaf is not an NHL defenceman. He got beat by a forward with speed on a crossover. Not hard to admit but hardly unforgiveable. Barron was not positioned the best and Allen should have stopped the puck. Both also true. All can be "blamed" - but honestly on almost every goal scored by any team, some player made a mistake, if not more than one. Nothing dramatic here, all part of learning, even for the 33 year old goalie.