Juraj Slafkovsky - Year Two

[Mrb1p]

So far, producing on the power play doesn't seems to have helped Cooley at 5v5 and the Habs have always preferred competent 2-way players over PP specialists.

Caufields a bust, is what I hear?

 

[SlafySZN]

Caufields a bust, is what I hear?

Caufield has most of his career goals/points at 5 on 5 and even strength.

 

[le_sean]

Two points but he took a dumb penalty that resulted in a goal and another time gave up on the play which led to a 2 on 1 and a goal. I still think he isn't close to ready.

He didn’t give up on the play. That was all Barron’s fault for staying inside when there were three Habs plays there already. Bieksa said the exact same thing. It was also an awful goal by Allen.

 

[Mrb1p]

Caufield has most of his career goals/points at 5 on 5 and even strength.

Yes. And Ill assume its gonna be like that for Cooley too. Its still stupid to say either are struggling this year. Because theyve produced at a great clip at 5 on 4 and not so much at 5 on 5.

 

[tazsub3]

Naw, dom was a terrible coach, but Therrien was franchise altering bad imo. He was so bad that life long fans of the team didn’t even want to watch anymore. Myself being one, there were many in my circle alone that felt similarly. Between him and MB they set this franchise back a decade imo.

I’m just finally able to watch the games again. We are still a very bad team and I think that we will pick in the 5-10 range again. The foxhole buddies left this franchise in the worst state it’s been in since the salary cap implementation for sure. So much of the cap spent on injured and deadweight contracts. You’d be hard pressed to find a GM coming into a worse situation than Hughes imo. He made the best of all the valueless assets we had imo. I still think we are an off-season away before we start trying to add meaningful pieces.

When you look at the effect on the franchise , I can’t argue with you . Therrien had way more damage then dumb dom.
In a purely simple coaching talent , I insist , no one as bad and as dumb as Ducharme

What I like the most about his goal vs the bruins , was the fact he was practicing scoring from that spot . And I always like seeing such practice translate , as if the kid learns to use the slot, with his size and shot , he can become unstoppable

 

[Tyson]

Funny that Johnny Gaudreau has 2 more points than Slaf after 18 games.

 

[BaseballCoach]

Are there still fans who insist Slafkolvsky should be rewarded for the hard work on his progression by being sent to Laval with a 92% pay cut so that - who, Riley Mackay could be brought up maybe? It will surely be good for the tank, right?

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

Two points but he took a dumb penalty that resulted in a goal and another time gave up on the play which led to a 2 on 1 and a goal. I still think he isn't close to ready.

But he had several strong games with no points. I kept telling you that points would come. They came in a game where we were dominated and sometimes that’s how it goes. He’s still a teen and point production will continue to be spotty but he should have more than he does.

And btw, EVERY player on our team could be pointed at with a bad play. Why single out a teenager who’s supposed to make mistakes? Didn’t you used to hate how Therrien used to bench young guys when they f***ed up? Of course he’s going to make mistakes…

Point production isn’t everything and I don’t think people understand that. Somebody above pointed out the analytics and he gets a reply on point production… They don’t know what they’re talking about.

Again, maybe the Habs are taking the wrong path. That’s a point that could certainly be debated. But the whole “this or that prospect has more points” is disingenuous and stupid.

 

[morhilane]

Caufields a bust, is what I hear?

Caufield's analytics are excellent this year actually as a two way forward and he's 2nd among forwards for quality of opposition this year so far (slightly tougher than last year). His issues are purely finishing at 5v5.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

Yes. And Ill assume its gonna be like that for Cooley too. Its still stupid to say either are struggling this year. Because theyve produced at a great clip at 5 on 4 and not so much at 5 on 5.

It even dumber to compare two players being used very differently and then wonder why the point production isn’t the same.

 

[Jeune Poulet]

He didn’t give up on the play. That was all Barron’s fault for staying inside when there were three Habs plays there already. Bieksa said the exact same thing. It was also an awful goal by Allen.

Nah. Slafkovsky completely gave up on this play.

But as usual, whenever the new hot commodity around here doesn't meet unrealistic expectations, the blame has to be quickly shifted to something, or someone else.

Therrien, Desharnais, Anderson... it's always someone, isn' it? We've even had people unironically blame Caufield for Slafkovsky's shitty production.

Now it's Barron's fault if Slafkovsky slacked off and completely stopped moving his feet, instead of applying pressure.

 

[Kennerback]

Are there still fans who insist Slafkolvsky should be rewarded for the hard work on his progression by being sent to Laval with a 92% pay cut so that - who, Riley Mackay could be brought up maybe? It will surely be good for the tank, right?

It would be like sending Chad Kilger down. Can’t produce if his life depended on it, but still does enough as a legit NHL placeholder to not be given an AHL ticket.

 

[Canadienna]

Nah. Slafkovsky completely gave up on this play.

But as usual, whenever the new hot commodity around here doesn't meet unrealistic expectations, the blame has to be quickly shifted to something, or someone else.

Therrien, Desharnais, Anderson... it's always someone, isn' it? We've even had people unironically blame Caufield for Slafkovsky's shitty production.

Now it's Barron's fault if Slafkovsky slacked off and completely stopped moving his feet, instead of applying pressure.

It's hyperbole on all sides.

Yes, he could have back checked harder, and maybe the extra pressure could have prevented a goal. Also Barron should have started back earlier and really Allen should have had that one.

Slaf didn't look great on that play, granted.

But focusing on Slafs role on that play, when he's 19 years old, had a great overall game, and there are a dozen or more guys who are more worthy of criticism, is what's confusing to me.

 

[DAChampion]

Bottom6 forwards don’t produce at a 57pt pace. What is this

"Advanced" stats.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

Nah. Slafkovsky completely gave up on this play.

But as usual, whenever the new hot commodity around here doesn't meet unrealistic expectations, the blame has to be quickly shifted to something, or someone else.

Therrien, Desharnais, Anderson... it's always someone, isn' it? We've even had people unironically blame Caufield for Slafkovsky's shitty production.

Now it's Barron's fault if Slafkovsky slacked off and completely stopped moving his feet, instead of applying pressure.

What the hell are you talking about?

It's hyperbole on all sides.

Please don’t try to “both sides” this.

Nobody is calling him a superstar. Many who are calling for patience have said he’s being mismanaged

 

[ReHabs]

It even dumber to compare two players being used very differently and then wonder why the point production isn’t the same.

Nobody is wondering. It's plainly obvious.

Why single out a teenager who’s supposed to make mistakes?

Because the teenager can be sent down for his own good. What a trite point this is. Poor Slafkovsky, he has to play in the NHL just so he doesn't feel bullied!

No. It's about his best development. Period.

 

[BehindTheTimes]

Are there still fans who insist Slafkolvsky should be rewarded for the hard work on his progression by being sent to Laval with a 92% pay cut so that - who, Riley Mackay could be brought up maybe? It will surely be good for the tank, right?

Yes

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

Caufield's analytics are excellent this year actually as a two way forward and he's 2nd among forwards for quality of opposition this year so far (slightly tougher than last year). His issues are purely finishing at 5v5.

It’s a slump pure and simple. Cole’s had numerous chances and just hasn’t buried them. Nobody is a bigger fan of him than me but the puck just hasn’t gone in.

Slaf set him up numerous times for one timers and he missed the net, hit a post or got robbed. Such is life.

When this is pointed out though it becomes “you’re blaming CC for Slaf’s lack of points…” more disengenous bullshit.

Nobody is “blaming” anyone. But it’s a fact that he set him up and CC didn’t score. That’s the way it goes sometimes. Just like yesterday Slaf managed two points in a game where we got smoked….

And honestly, I don’t care at this stage. What matters is that he’s playing a lot better. We aren’t winning anything this year anyway. As long as Slaf keeps playing like that the points will come. I’d hope they keep him with CC because it’s only a matter of time before pucks start going in for him as well. Anaheim and SJ coming up, this might be the slump buster he’s needed. I hope so anyway.

 

[BehindTheTimes]

Bottom6 forwards don’t produce at a 57pt pace. What is this

Its junk

 

[le_sean]

Slaf now tied with Caufield for 5v5 goals. But Cole doesn’t have a thread full of posters with an agenda.

 

[GrandBison]

Slaf now tied with Caufield for 5v5 goals. But Cole doesn’t have a thread full of posters with an agenda.

Slaf with more points than KK in their last 5 games...

More seriously, 95% of young players are streaky.

 

[ReHabs]

Slaf now tied with Caufield for 5v5 goals. But Cole doesn’t have a thread full of posters with an agenda.

We want Slafkosvky to develop to be the best possible player he can be. In his sophomore season he has 5 points in 18gp, he's on pace for 23 points for heaven's sake. He makes insanely bad decisions with the puck even in the games where he does score. What's with the conspiracy theories? You can't possibly think the entire fanbase can be tricked into thinking this young player looks good and tidy and there's nothing to criticise about how they're handling him, can you?

 

[417]

It would be like sending Chad Kilger down. Can’t produce if his life depended on it, but still does enough as a legit NHL placeholder to not be given an AHL ticket.

You're really running with this Chad Kilger and huh?

 

[habdynasty]

Slaf and the rest of the young guys are getting their reps in the NHL, There is going to be good and bad nights.

 

[Adam Michaels]

Because the teenager can be sent down for his own good. What a trite point this is. Poor Slafkovsky, he has to play in the NHL just so he doesn't feel bullied!

No. It's about his best development. Period.

He's improving at the NHL level.