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Did not suggest Slaf should go play in the US.
(Mod) yes you did.
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Did not suggest Slaf should go play in the US.
Youre missing the point, You're all talking about Slaf going to te AHL not Europe or ECHL or some ligue de garage. I just gave you names of players who are doing well despite not going to the ahl.I never accused you of giving incorrect information about the players you mentioned. I was only pointing out that they spent their D-1 and D-2 in different leagues and graduated into the NHL in their D-3. There was no graduation process with Slafkovsky. I also pointed out the AHL wasn’t an option for anyone you mentioned in their first two seasons, which is a luxury most teams would love to have with every prospect that’s good enough.
Here is where I mentionned College in my previous post : L, or 2nd - 3rd division league somewhere in Europe that would be more or less the same calibre as the US College or JR ?(Mod) yes you did
The AHL gets brought up because it’s the league with the second most talent in hockey. I’m not sure why you wouldn’t think that’s ideal in comparison to other leagues. Sending him back to junior which isn’t an option anymore or Europe would be saying he isn’t good enough to play down there yet and despite him being underwhelming in the NHL, I don’t think that’s the case. As far as the “dominating in the AHL” argument. I’ll believe it when I see it if he’s ever sent down. If we’re to go off what we’ve seen the last year and a half, it may take him awhile before he starts having a serious impact in the AHL as well.Youre missing the point, You're all talking about Slaf going to te AHL not Europe or ECHL or some ligue de garage. I just gave you names of players who are doing well despite not going to the ahl.
So yeah, say what you want about D +1+2+3+4 but Habs yougsters are proof you can become fine NHLers without the AHL. AHL lots of you claim is the ideal league to develop players.
You think Slaf should develop outside the NHL ? fine, just stop repeating stupid things like ahl is ideal or needs to go to the ahl to dominate, or any other idiocies in the ahl or bust type.
A few things at play here.Most don’t agree that starting him in the AHL was ideal, hence the entire debate. Most are arguing everything is going according to plan, which is demonstrably false.
Can you name the last Habs youngster that had 70pts in a Habs shirt?So yeah, say what you want about D +1+2+3+4 but Habs yougsters are proof you can become fine NHLers without the AHL. AHL lots of you claim is the ideal league to develop players.
Plekanec once 14 years ago which is horse****.Can you name the last Habs youngster that had 70pts in a Habs shirt?
Max Domi, more recently.Plekanec once 14 years ago which is horse****.
This is what he said:Hughes literally said there was concern that if he still didn’t produce in the AHL THEN WHAT. Then sir we made a bad pick.
I think that’s very weird.This is what he said:
Why did Canadiens' Slafkovsky stay in NHL? Kent Hughes gave some insight.
But the flipside of it, and concern, was it’s not about offensive production. If we put him in the American Hockey League and then all of the sudden the coaching staff and everyone is expecting him to score and he’s expecting it of himself, then it could be counterproductive.”
Even our GM was not convinced Slafkofsky could deliver in AHL.
If he's still in the same funk, maybe a little change of scenery and having fun with other slovaks would be just what the doctor ordered.If he’s 19 he can go.
The Habs won’t have him there, is my guess.If he's still in the same funk, maybe a little change of scenery and having fun with other slovaks would be just what the doctor ordered.
Seem like out management think that the kid is not capable of dealing with the pressure to produce something even on AHL level.I think that’s very weird.
I have no idea how it’s counterproductive at all… I think it’s a-ok for him to hypothetically not produce ( I think he would do great btw). What he would experience would just be a step by step approach to become a pro NA player. There’s no world in which it’s wrong for an 18 year old to modestly produce in the AHL.
So weird, I have more confidence in Slaf it seems. I’d be behind even considering a so so D+1 AHL season. Contrary is silly to write off an 18 year old…
I don’t read it that way at all. I read it as he wants him to focus on other aspects of the game. At this point in time, points are secondary. They don’t want him going down there and just focusing on racking up points.This is what he said:
Why did Canadiens' Slafkovsky stay in NHL? Kent Hughes gave some insight.
But the flipside of it, and concern, was it’s not about offensive production. If we put him in the American Hockey League and then all of the sudden the coaching staff and everyone is expecting him to score and he’s expecting it of himself, then it could be counterproductive.”
Even our GM was not convinced Slafkofsky could deliver in AHL.
Nonsense.Seem like out management think that the kid is not capable of dealing with the pressure to produce something even on AHL level.
This is how scared they are of the possibility they drafted a bust.
In that interview Hughes was talking about muscle memory erasing and comparing it with juggling balls.I don’t read it that way at all. I read it as he wants him to focus on other aspects of the game. At this point in time, points are secondary. They don’t want him going down there and just focusing I racking up points.
Yup, that's why I like to try something called optimism when it comes to our prospects.People care more about the person itself than the fact it's a sport game where the person earns millions to entertain us. We are here to watch hockey and be entertained. I find it hard people who are entertained right now watching him play as 1st OA in the biggest hockey league.
Feel like sometimes we are in a big therapy session where we gotta cuddle eachother to cope better.
There’s nothing in that quote that suggests a lack of confidence in the prospect or in a worry of him not succeeding in the minors. Stop making stuff up.In that interview Hughes was talking about muscle memory erasing and comparing it with juggling balls.
He talks about 1OA like he's some undrafted big kid who came out of nowhere and needs to relearn basic hockey.
This is what he said:
Why did Canadiens' Slafkovsky stay in NHL? Kent Hughes gave some insight.
But the flipside of it, and concern, was it’s not about offensive production. If we put him in the American Hockey League and then all of the sudden the coaching staff and everyone is expecting him to score and he’s expecting it of himself, then it could be counterproductive.”
Even our GM was not convinced Slafkofsky could deliver in AHL.
What do you think? He has it or not?Is the AHL really the place where you learn to score and produce? I don’t think Pacioretty, Wright or others were sent back down to learn to score. You have an innate sense to shoot and score or you don’t. You miss 100% of shots you don’t take is something learned in Pee-Wee.