NotProkofievian
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I just wanna point out that Hughes said those things almost a year ago.The counterproductive aspect isn't that he wouldn't score, it's that he would focus on scoring instead of focusing on the things that they actually want him to get better at. Earlier in the article he even talks specifically about how "you’ll be naturally inclined to rely more on what you’ve always done rather than what you’ve learned through correction". That's the concern they had with Slaf in the AHL being the go to guy, he'd be more likely to be doing things that work at lower levels but won't translate in the NHL.
As an example Drouin going back to the Q after being drafted caused him to just double down on putting up points doing stuff that works in juniors but doesn't work in the NHL. So rather then learning the pro-habits he needed to learn to be successful in the NHL he reinforced the junior habits that would prevent him from reaching his potential.
Please… Slaf only played like 30 games last year. He’s played less than 60 games in his career.I just wanna point out that Hughes said those things almost a year ago.
So, almost a year passed and Slaf's progress moves at snail's pace in NHL.
I don’t think because Michel Therrien (worst coach in Habs history and a bully) called out Subban means we should be repeating those mistakes with Slaf.I understand your perspective. My thinking is that he is not a top6 player right now, therefore I don't see the point of having him struggle in the NHL. Putting up points is vital, it is the most important thing, so tonight is a net-good for his growth. With that said, I don't see how (if not for our own awful roster) he can justify remaining on an NHL team's top6. His performances are erratic and immature... in other words raw. Which is totally fine at this stage (I wouldn't have drafted a no-toolbox player with the 1OA, but we all know this is water under the bridge) but I think being put in a slower-paced-than-the-best-in-the-sport league with a ton more minutes would allow him to play his game and work on his game... which is a skill game in a large-framed player's body. It's hard to play such a game when you're constantly and consistently struggling to keep up with the play. Adapting to the speed of the NHL is one thing but when the time comes to impose yourself in the game, it might be too little too late. Plenty of otherwise skill players find ways to adapt and keep their heads above water in the NHL but simplify their game into oblivion -- out of pure survival instinct.
If Norris-winning PK Subban can be brutally called out for a turnover which wasn't even his fault (fault was with Max Pacioretty) then Slafkovsky's brutal turnovers should be called out as well -- that is, IF you're willing to argue he's currently an NHL top6 player. If he is, then the standards should be consistent. You have to expect a certain level of reliability from an NHL player... this is why Drouin and Hoffman and Dadanov were so infuriating to watch.
Anyway, no point yammering on about the AHL, we know Kent Hughes super genius GM is smarter than anyone in any room and knows better. We have to let go of the dream of normal prospect development, the genius is running the show now.
I pledge to stop arguing for the transfer to the AHL. It's not happening.
While I beleive Therrien is the biggest bully in habs history and a very bad coach . Worst coach in habs history goes to dumb dom Ducharme . And by farI don’t think because Michel Therrien (worst coach in Habs history and a bully) called out Subban means we should be repeating those mistakes with Slaf.
A good rule to follow is: take whatever Michel Therrien did and then do the opposite
Yes. 15 more games and he'll surpass Patrik Stefan.Please… Slaf only played like 30 games last year. He’s played less than 60 games in his career.
Naw, dom was a terrible coach, but Therrien was franchise altering bad imo. He was so bad that life long fans of the team didn’t even want to watch anymore. Myself being one, there were many in my circle alone that felt similarly. Between him and MB they set this franchise back a decade imo.While I beleive Therrien is the biggest bully in habs history and a very bad coach . Worst coach in habs history goes to dumb dom Ducharme . And by far
While everyone keeps bickering,
Slafkovsky has quietly just tied Cooley for goals scored this year.
I find he’s been playing extremely well. Im surprised he hasnt started to dispel some concerns
I never said that; how in the world did you come to this conclusion?I don’t think because Michel Therrien (worst coach in Habs history and a bully) called out Subban means we should be repeating those mistakes with Slaf.
A good rule to follow is: take whatever Michel Therrien did and then do the opposite
I'm pretty sure Thrashers fans were excited like this while watching their 19yr old 1OA showing skill and racking some points here and there.Imagine being concerned instead of excited by a player with his skills and profile who is an NHL regular at 19yo.
A big number of HFHabs poster are even higher on Roy than Slafkovsky
He definitely has. Unfortunately he wasn’t rewarded for it. Last night he didn’t do much (nobody did) but he got two points. Funny how that happens.I find he’s been playing extremely well. Im surprised he hasnt started to dispel some concerns
He hasn’t been a regular because of merit though, and that is why there is concern.Imagine being concerned instead of excited by a player with his skills and profile who is an NHL regular at 19yo.
He hasn’t been a regular because of merit though, and that is why there is concern.
That can cause trouble in his development and in the team.
But if he plays well long enough, these concerns will leave. If he doesn’t, they will stay. Pretty simple.
Who on this team has merited it more?He hasn’t been a regular because of merit though, and that is why there is concern.
That can cause trouble in his development and in the team.
But if he plays well long enough, these concerns will leave. If he doesn’t, they will stay. Pretty simple.
Cooley is good but the guys talking about him like he was amazing and we missed out on a 1C are super cringe I've watched the kid , great talent but very weak.While everyone keeps bickering,
Slafkovsky has quietly just tied Cooley for goals scored this year.
Remove the last 5 ish games and I would guess the people who thought he was playing well were pretty marginal.Agree for the two last paragraph. But the 2nd is related with the 1st.
Not sure about the 1st. Its debatable i would say.
Nobody is immune from criticism, but Slafkovsky's performance comes with the caveat that he hasn't even played a full 82 games in the league. Subban, Pacioretty, Drouin, etc. – all had been around much longer than Slaf by the time we started obsessing over their mistakes.I understand your perspective. My thinking is that he is not a top6 player right now, therefore I don't see the point of having him struggle in the NHL. Putting up points is vital, it is the most important thing, so tonight is a net-good for his growth. With that said, I don't see how (if not for our own awful roster) he can justify remaining on an NHL team's top6. His performances are erratic and immature... in other words raw. Which is totally fine at this stage (I wouldn't have drafted a no-toolbox player with the 1OA, but we all know this is water under the bridge) but I think being put in a slower-paced-than-the-best-in-the-sport league with a ton more minutes would allow him to play his game and work on his game... which is a skill game in a large-framed player's body. It's hard to play such a game when you're constantly and consistently struggling to keep up with the play. Adapting to the speed of the NHL is one thing but when the time comes to impose yourself in the game, it might be too little too late. Plenty of otherwise skill players find ways to adapt and keep their heads above water in the NHL but simplify their game into oblivion -- out of pure survival instinct.
If Norris-winning PK Subban can be brutally called out for a turnover which wasn't even his fault (fault was with Max Pacioretty) then Slafkovsky's brutal turnovers should be called out as well -- that is, IF you're willing to argue he's currently an NHL top6 player. If he is, then the standards should be consistent. You have to expect a certain level of reliability from an NHL player... this is why Drouin and Hoffman and Dadanov were so infuriating to watch.
Anyway, no point yammering on about the AHL, we know Kent Hughes super genius GM is smarter than anyone in any room and knows better. We have to let go of the dream of normal prospect development, the genius is running the show now.
I pledge to stop arguing for the transfer to the AHL. It's not happening.
That's because a whole bunch of people on this site have nothing better to do but post all day and whine.Imagine being concerned instead of excited by a player with his skills and profile who is an NHL regular at 19yo.
A big number of HFHabs poster are even higher on Roy than Slafkovsky
Remove the last 5 ish games and I would guess the people who thought he was playing well were pretty marginal.
Cooley is good but the guys talking about him like he was amazing and we missed out on a 1C are super cringe I've watched the kid , great talent but very weak.