Player Discussion JT Miller Thread

[maroon 6]

JT Miller had his first kid in the summer. This version of him isn’t the standard version (may be more similar to his 34+ version).

He’s a father of 3

 

[me2]

Let's hope he's trying to play himself off the team by putting in a big effort.

 

[RealGudbranson]

He’s a father of 3

Welp. He had his third kid this past summer then. They now out number the parents (I’m assuming).

 

[me2]

Welp. He had his third kid this past summer then. They now out number the parents (I’m assuming).

Never have more kids than you have arms.

 

[Buresflyingelbow]

Parents would know how shit life is in the 1st year.

He has two daughters and they are like 5 or 6

 

[arttk]

He has two daughters and they are like 5 or 6

I take it back lol
Most parents don’t care as much for the 3rd one I hear

 

[Horvat1C]

He played well again yesterday from what I saw. Another nice pass on Podkolzin's goal.

 

[MS]

He played well again yesterday from what I saw. Another nice pass on Podkolzin's goal.

He's been much improved under Tocchet, and was also much better November-January under Boudreau than he was in October.

This 'he's unplayable at C' stuff was hysteria. He's been plenty playable at C for long periods in the NHL. He was unplayable at C in October and I have no idea what the f*** happened there to create a level of play that poor, but that was an exception and not the rule.

 

[Oliewud]

I'll take miller at $8 mill over horvat all day. He's a much more dynamic player when hes on his game.

 

[Horvat1C]

Another good game and another nice assist today.

 

[canuckking1]

Wonder if JT can crawl back to PPG. 5 points under with a light schedule coming in March/April and likely more minutes with Horvat gone.

 

[I Hart Conor Garland]

Wonder if JT can crawl back to PPG. 5 points under with a light schedule coming in March/April and likely more minutes with Horvat gone.

I expect it.

 

[Vector]

JT Miller had his first kid in the summer. This version of him isn’t the standard version (may be more similar to his 34+ version).

What? Miller already had two daughters. This was his third kid. First boy.

 

[PuckMunchkin]

He's been much improved under Tocchet, and was also much better November-January under Boudreau than he was in October.

This 'he's unplayable at C' stuff was hysteria. He's been plenty playable at C for long periods in the NHL. He was unplayable at C in October and I have no idea what the f*** happened there to create a level of play that poor, but that was an exception and not the rule.

He is now playable at C.

His line doesnt generate anything 5on5 still but now that he plays 8mins less per game he isnt gassed.

Call it hysteria all you like. Miller is not a top6 center.

 

[canuckking1]

He is now playable at C.

His line doesnt generate anything 5on5 still but now that he plays 8mins less per game he isnt gassed.

Call it hysteria all you like. Miller is not a top6 center.

Where the hell did you get that 8 minutes less number?

 

[PuckMunchkin]

Where the hell did you get that 8 minutes less number?

There was the Seattle game where he played just 16mins and after that I must have compared 5on5 numbers with Tocchet vs total ice time under Bruce.

Thanks for pointing that out.

 

[Tables of Stats]

There was the Seattle game where he played just 16mins and after that I must have compared 5on5 numbers now vs total ice time before.

Thanks for pointing that out.

He also played a few 17-minute games under Bruce, so really no change at all.

 

[PuckMunchkin]

He also played a few 17-minute games under Bruce, so really no change at all.

His 5on5 minutes have been slashed.

Im sure you knew this. With your nickname and all.




edit. Not Directed at you Tables of Stats;


JT Miller is such a crucial point for the retool apologists on these boards and I dont expect them to admit to what he is any time soon.

 

[Tables of Stats]

His 5on5 minutes have been slashed.

Im sure you knew this. With your nickname and all.

They haven't though. He had similar ice time under Bruce in terms of both TOI and special team ice. His January 14th game sheet doesn't look much different than his sheet for tonight's game.

 

[PuckMunchkin]

They haven't though. He had similar ice time under Bruce in terms of both TOI and special team ice. His January 14th game sheet doesn't look much different than his sheet for tonight's game.

He had 2 10min 5on5 games under Tocchet already.

He barely had any under Bruce all season.

Had no idea this was something I would actually have an argument over.

 

[strattonius]

He is now playable at C.

His line doesnt generate anything 5on5 still but now that he plays 8mins less per game he isnt gassed.

Call it hysteria all you like. Miller is not a top6 center.

Huh?

He's probably better served as a winger. It's an easier position. But saying he's not even a top 6 Center is just absurd.

 

[PuckMunchkin]

Huh?

He's probably better served as a winger. It's an easier position. But saying he's not even a top 6 Center is just absurd.

Ok lets rephrase that.

Miller is not a top6 center on a team that is trying to contend.

 

[strattonius]

Ok lets rephrase that.

Miller is not a top6 center on a team that is trying to contend.

You're still over exaggerating based on a bad first half of the season.

Hes a point per game player.

The hate on Miller around here is so overboard.

 

[Tables of Stats]

He had 2 10min 5on5 games under Tocchet already.

He barely had any under Bruce all season.

Had no idea this was something I would actually have an argument over.

He had two outlier games, Tocchet's first two games behind the bench, and then four games where his ice-time looks completely unchanged from how Bruce was using him. If Tocchet wanted to play Miller less at 5-on-5 you'd think that trend would have continued instead of lasting for two games and then ending.

The attached document has all of his TOI numbers in seconds listed as TOI, even strength, PP, PK. The x indicates a game that went beyond 60 minutes, the t indicates games under Tocchet. There isn't any trend to be found.

 

[PuckMunchkin]

He had two outlier games, Tocchet's first two games behind the bench, and then four games where his ice-time looks completely unchanged from how Bruce was using him. If Tocchet wanted to play Miller less at 5-on-5 you'd think that trend would have continued instead of lasting for two games and then ending.

The attached document has all of his TOI numbers in seconds listed as TOI, even strength, PP, PK. The x indicates a game that went beyond 60 minutes, the t indicates games under Tocchet. There isn't any trend to be found.

There is no trend to be found either way then. As in you cannot read anything at all in to the 5 games under Tocchet. If you are willing to remove 40% of the sample as "outlier games." In a 5 game sample size... Why even bother replying?

You're still over exaggerating based on a bad first half of the season.

Hes a point per game player.

The hate on Miller around here is so overboard.

You are just overemphasizing his last years complete outlier of a season.

He has NEVER been a good center outside of last year. And now we have another 40 games after said season where he is not a good center.

He is on pace for 74 points. That is 4 points above what I expected before the season started.