Proposal: Josh Anderson to LA for Gabriel Vilardi + RHD

[funky]

Vilardi would be stuck behind Suzuki, Dach, Dvorak and most likely another top end C we will draft this year. He’s simply not a need as we have better options at C already

Vilardi has been converted to wing which is a better position for him.

Like Anderson. Think he would do well on the Kings but the contract would be a killer with us so close to the cap. His size is very appealing but L.A has drafted some high skill big guys in Byfield, Kaliyev and Vilardi and has some grinders with size like Helenius percolating.

Very curious to see how Vilardi is used and how he responds this year. With his back issues he lost two years of development so I think we are just starting to see what he has to offer. The boy has a wicked release and might be our most skilled prospect.

Now please trade us Edmundson. He is exactly what the Dr ordered back on our blue line.

 

[Mats26]

Vilardi has been converted to wing which is a better position for him.

Like Anderson. Think he would do well on the Kings but the contract would be a killer with us so close to the cap. His size is very appealing but L.A has drafted some high skill big guys in Byfield, Kaliyev and Vilardi and has some grinders with size like Helenius percolating.

Very curious to see how Vilardi is used and how he responds this year. With his back issues he lost two years of development so I think we are just starting to see what he has to offer. The boy has a wicked release and might be our most skilled prospect.

Now please trade us Edmundson. He is exactly what the Dr ordered back on our blue line.

Edmundson for Walker + add some retention and picks on either side to balance it out is the best deal. Nothing else we need from them, Romanov is gone so.... time to shop elsewhere. We need some grizzle on our D.

 

[Voight]

Montreal is stuck with Anderson and his contract for at least this year. Anyone who can use him has zero space to take him without serious retention, cap swaps and/or cap maneuvers to make it work.
Apart from the cap issues, LA doesn’t need forwards but LHD
LA declines

More than that. He'll still have 4 years remaining.

 

[Kingspiracy]

YOu missed the easy Anderson - Andersson - Anderson-Dolan with Anderson on D

Bob Miller would have loved that.

 

[go4hockey]

Vilardi would be stuck behind Suzuki, Dach, Dvorak and most likely another top end C we will draft this year. He’s simply not a need as we have better options at C already

He is a winger. He played wing all year last season as a position change with him getting his chance in LA this year

 

[TOGuy14]

Would you trade Josh Anderson to LA for Gabriel Vilardi and one of their RHD.

Montreal does this because Anderson was rumored to be on the trade block last year and allows them to clear his large salary. They acquire a young up-and-coming center and a RHD which would push one their young D to Laval.

LA does this to get a big physical winger to replace Brown for 2 players who might have to be put on waivers anyway

Awful for the Kings

 

[Ezpz]

I don't know why this thread is pretending Anderson is worthless and Vilardi is still a top prospect. Anderson has value equivalent to a first round pick in a trade and Vilardi currently does not; he could easily change that and restore his value this year. It doesn't make sense for the King to sell low. Habs would also rather get an asset not on an expiring RFA contract if they're dealing Anderson, and Vilardi doesn't fit anywhere in the future lineup at his natural position, nor is he a great option as a top 6 winger. Trading Anderson would be part of creating future cap flexibility and getting an asset that fits our timeline better--acquiring a guy who needs to be signed in the summer doesn't do that, especially if he has a good year. I also doubt Vilardi goes on waivers, no need for hyperbole.

 

[The Devilish Buffoon]

Anderson has scored at a 37pt pace over since coming to MTL.

He has been the approx 20th most physical forward, but in raw # that puts him closer to the 100th guy than the top 5. So, he is a very physical player, but not an unrelenting force like Tkachuk, Clutterbuck, Reaves, Lowry, prime Lucic, Deslaurier, etc.

At $5.5m, his salary is that of a high end 2nd line forward - in fact, the # of players making over $5.75m is just below the # of 1st line roles there are, and the # of guys earning over $5m just below 32 * 4.5 (i.e - the "average" #4 forward makes around $5m).

In terms of real production, Anderson has profiled as a high-end #7 forward - comparable to guys like Donskoi, Goodrow, Fast, Eller, Roy, Palmieri, Dube, Spezza, Rodrigues, Okposo, Jarnkrok, Vatrano, Greenway, D. Brown, C. Coyle, Hornqvist, Gurianov, Perry, Puljuarvi Jenner, Kapanen, Beauvillier, Domi, Suter, Dadonov, Henrique, etc.

I look at that list and there isn't a single guy I would pay $5.5m to. This doesn't show the full picture, though. Anderson is, indeed, a physical presence, and I certainly believe he can provide more offence.

If he can provide ~50pts, he is worth that contract. But he needs to show that he can do so before he has real value (or the Habs need to wait for the cap to go up).

I like the player, and I think there will be years where he is worth $5.5m, but right now, with the cap crunch, a few down seasons, and very little track record of being a true 2nd line player... they would be selling extremely low on him.

 

[beowulf]

You over estimate Anderson's value.

 

[beowulf]

I don't know why this thread is pretending Anderson is worthless and Vilardi is still a top prospect. Anderson has value equivalent to a first round pick in a trade and Vilardi currently does not; he could easily change that and restore his value this year. It doesn't make sense for the King to sell low. Habs would also rather get an asset not on an expiring RFA contract if they're dealing Anderson, and Vilardi doesn't fit anywhere in the future lineup at his natural position, nor is he a great option as a top 6 winger. Trading Anderson would be part of creating future cap flexibility and getting an asset that fits our timeline better--acquiring a guy who needs to be signed in the summer doesn't do that, especially if he has a good year. I also doubt Vilardi goes on waivers, no need for hyperbole.

I do not see how Anderson is worth a 1st rounder given his lack of production and time on injured list. There is no way he brings back Valardi and a useful dman in a trade at this point.

 

[cwede]

I don't know why this thread is pretending Anderson is worthless and Vilardi is still a top prospect. Anderson has value equivalent to a first round pick in a trade and Vilardi currently does not; he could easily change that and restore his value this year....

"Vilardi ... could easily change that and restore his value this year.... last night

 

[bert]

I don't know why this thread is pretending Anderson is worthless and Vilardi is still a top prospect. Anderson has value equivalent to a first round pick in a trade and Vilardi currently does not; he could easily change that and restore his value this year. It doesn't make sense for the King to sell low. Habs would also rather get an asset not on an expiring RFA contract if they're dealing Anderson, and Vilardi doesn't fit anywhere in the future lineup at his natural position, nor is he a great option as a top 6 winger. Trading Anderson would be part of creating future cap flexibility and getting an asset that fits our timeline better--acquiring a guy who needs to be signed in the summer doesn't do that, especially if he has a good year. I also doubt Vilardi goes on waivers, no need for hyperbole.

Just because they say it on the radio in Montreal doesnt mean its true.

I do not see how Anderson is worth a 1st rounder given his lack of production and time on injured list. There is no way he brings back Valardi and a useful dman in a trade at this point.

The only people that think this are Montreal fans. Pure delusion from that fanbase this offseason from the insanity about the draft with Shane Wright. Complete 180's on him and Slafkovsky now all this other stuff about how teams want to pay a premium for their players on bad contracts.

 

[beowulf]

Just because they say it on the radio in Montreal doesnt mean its true.


The only people that think this are Montreal fans. Pure delusion from that fanbase this offseason from the insanity about the draft with Shane Wright. Complete 180's on him and Slafkovsky now all this other stuff about how teams want to pay a premium for their players on bad contracts.

I am a Habs fan, born and raised in Montreal and lived there for 30 years but I just don't see the value and the love some people have for this guy.

 

[Eegs]

I don't know why this thread is pretending Anderson is worthless and Vilardi is still a top prospect. Anderson has value equivalent to a first round pick in a trade and Vilardi currently does not; he could easily change that and restore his value this year. It doesn't make sense for the King to sell low. Habs would also rather get an asset not on an expiring RFA contract if they're dealing Anderson, and Vilardi doesn't fit anywhere in the future lineup at his natural position, nor is he a great option as a top 6 winger. Trading Anderson would be part of creating future cap flexibility and getting an asset that fits our timeline better--acquiring a guy who needs to be signed in the summer doesn't do that, especially if he has a good year. I also doubt Vilardi goes on waivers, no need for hyperbole.

Watching a fair bit of last nights' game as well as all the buzz Gabe received in the pre-season...you might be eating these words very shortly. Vilardi looks like he is ready to explode. He's like the poster-child for the "Development is not linear" gang.

I'd probably deal Anderson straight up for him currently though I doubt i'd have many LA or Hab fans that want to make that trade.

 

[Kurrilino]

Watching a fair bit of last nights' game as well as all the buzz Gabe received in the pre-season...you might be eating these words very shortly. Vilardi looks like he is ready to explode. He's like the poster-child for the "Development is not linear" gang.

I'd probably deal Anderson straight up for him currently though I doubt i'd have many LA or Hab fans that want to make that trade.

Yep

Like is said Vilardi is breaking out and after all the effort the Kings put into him,
i highly doubt that he is getting traded at all

 

[blankall]

At this stage, Montreal is going to have to take back a similarly large contract to move Anderson. He's not worth 1st rounders or prospects like Vilardi (who still has a high ceiling).

 

[PensandCaps]

I wouldn't give anything of value for Josh Anderson lmao, let alone Vilardi +

 

[Boss Man Hughes]

"Vilardi ... could easily change that and restore his value this year.... last night

One game against a mediocre team means nothing.

I wouldn't give anything of value for Josh Anderson lmao, let alone Vilardi +

Who cares what you would give. GM's are interested in Anderson because they will always be interested in power forwards. There will be teams willing to make a good offer at the trade deadliine. Fletcher would probably do it now if he could make the cap work.

 

[PensandCaps]

One game against a mediocre team means nothing.


Who cares what you would give. GM's are interested in Anderson because they will always be interested in power forwards. There will be teams willing to make a good offer at the trade deadliine. Fletcher would probably do it now if he could make the cap work.

Hey good luck moving that contract for anything good lol

 

[Kurrilino]

Who cares what you would give. GM's are interested in Anderson because they will always be interested in power forwards. There will be teams willing to make a good offer at the trade deadliine. Fletcher would probably do it now if he could make the cap work.

And who are those GM's you are quoting here?

I understand that you are butt hurt because you can't have Vilardi but c'mon, just making stuff up isn't the right way to do it.
Even peeps from other fan bases come in here, point a finger on you and laugh.

 

[CAUFIELD]

Lmao we will keep Anderson no problem.

His contract ain’t a problem for us.

Huge player with speed, scoring touch, physicality and fighting abilities. He’s a unique player .

I’m sure lots of gm would like to put their hand on a player like him. My opinion .

 

[Maitz]

I think everyone is looking at the stats and I will agree with you he is not worth his contract as an offensive player. BUT I value way more everything he does for the team, big body, skate fast, finish his check, got a good shot and surprisingly good hands for his size, he his also a really good and positive leader on the team. Suzuki and Caufield really enjoy playing with him. Every team needs a good veteran presence like him

Lmao we will keep Anderson no problem.

His contract ain’t a problem for us.

Huge player with speed, scoring touch, physicality and fighting abilities. He’s a unique player .

I’m sure lots of gm would like to put their hand on a player like him. My opinion .

Every GM wants an Anderson type of player. IF Hughes shop him, he will have A LOT of phone calls

 

[HuGort]

Montreal won't trade Josh Anderson. Big heavy players are hard to play against in playoffs. I doubt they trade Monahan either. Many say we trade Monahan at deadline for a first but I doubt it. He was real good player for us tonight. I think they may Re-sign him. They may trade Dvorak for a first though. He had a good game but future down the middle in Montreal is likely Suzuki, Dach, Monahan and Evans. That is solid group down the middle.

 

[Cianide]

Not for Vilardi+. How about Arvidsson for Anderson? Both of their last names start with A.

 

[Natey]

Anderson worth a 1st rounder?

Trust me, I wish he was. If he was, he'd be traded already. 100%.

He's worth a smaller cap dump (think 50% of his contract) and a 2nd/3rd.... maybe.

Montreal won't trade Josh Anderson. Big heavy players are hard to play against in playoffs. I doubt they trade Monahan either. Many say we trade Monahan at deadline for a first but I doubt it. He was real good player for us tonight. I think they may Re-sign him. They may trade Dvorak for a first though. He had a good game but future down the middle in Montreal is likely Suzuki, Dach, Monahan and Evans. That is solid group down the middle.

Yeah, his 9 points in 32 playoff games for Montreal in the playoffs really scares teams.