Proposal: Josh Anderson to LA for Gabriel Vilardi + RHD

jfhabs

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Doubt the kings want this

Josh contract going to be awful real quick
He's only 28 years old and starting next year cap is going up. He's had trouble dealing with injuries in the past, but if he stays healthy his contract isn't an issue.
 

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Hab fans still thinkin Anderson has good value lol? Dude still has 5 more years on his deal. Gunna look like Lucic contract in no time.
Why is he a Lucic comparable to you? Anderson skates like the wind, Lucic looks like he has a Piano on his back...

Don't want to move Anderson, he likes Montreal and he's a good vet to keep.
I'd be more interested in a RHD for LHD swap or fringe NHLer RHD for Bottom6+pick or something like that.
 

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Would you trade Josh Anderson to LA for Gabriel Vilardi and one of their RHD.

Montreal does this because Anderson was rumored to be on the trade block last year and allows them to clear his large salary. They acquire a young up-and-coming center and a RHD which would push one their young D to Laval.

LA does this to get a big physical winger to replace Brown for 2 players who might have to be put on waivers anyway
I loved Vilardi in his draft year, but the guy as had so many injuries. On top of that, we already have Suzuki, Dach, Monahan, Dvorak and Evans at center.
Why should we be looking to trade Anderson, a good vet who defends his teamates and wants to play here?

Doubt anyone would trade a young up and coming D for him anyway.

I'd probably be interested in Roy or Walker if healthy. The return would probably be more reasonable for a rebuilding team.
 

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I'd do Peterson for Anderson straight up. Anderson is worth more, but those last 2 years are costly on Anderson's contract.
No thank you. Peterson ain't bad, but he isn't what we're looking for. We just re-sign Allen as a vet presence in net.
 

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He's only 28 years old and starting next year cap is going up. He's had trouble dealing with injuries in the past, but if he stays healthy his contract isn't an issue.
Thats a pretty big if, to take on 5.5 mil for what 5 years? And give up a big bodied center.

Vilardi might not fit in LA... but i imagine a lot of teams would take value in a big bodied center, who is a PPG in AHL, and has shown capabilities to score at nhl level. And a RHD.

I say this as someone who loves Josh Andersons game and wish we could add him in anaheim... that contract is pretty risky for teams to grab, specially given his decline/style and likely hood that he doesnt pan out for the duration.
 
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Thats a pretty big if, to take on 5.5 mil for what 5 years? And give up a big bodied center..
I mean that 'if' is probably and 'IF' in Vilardi's case.
As mentioned responding other poster in this tread, I don't want to trade Anderson. Vilardi, I liked him from day one, but we already have no space at Center as is.
I'd be more curious about guys like Roy or Walker (if healthy).
Seems like you guys already have Doughty, Durzi, 2 mentioned above + Spence/Clarke potentially making the big team.
 
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I mean that 'if' is probably and 'IF' in Vilardi's case.
As mentioned responding other poster in this tread, I don't want to trade Anderson. Vilardi, I liked him from day one, but we already have no space at Center as is.
I'd be more curious about guys like Roy or Walker (if healthy).
Seems like you guys already have Doughty, Durzi, 2 mentioned above + Spence/Clarke potentially making the big team.
Well im a ducks fan... not exactly sure how the Kings see their RHD depth. I feel like Durzi is prob the odd man out.

And its IF in both cases.

Josh anderson doesnt play a style of hockey that leads to long careers, i love his style and id love for max jones/comtois to become that style of player... but id never trade for a 5.5 long contract 28 year old version of that player . It would be very risky for the Kings to make that move... for Montreal its no risk at all... you get rid of money and you bring in 2 younger players.... with upside.
 

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Well im a ducks fan... not exactly sure how the Kings see their RHD depth. I feel like Durzi is prob the odd man out.

And its IF in both cases.

Josh anderson doesnt play a style of hockey that leads to long careers, i love his style and id love for max jones/comtois to become that style of player... but id never trade for a 5.5 long contract 28 year old version of that player . It would be very risky for the Kings to make that move... for Montreal its no risk at all... you get rid of money and you bring in 2 younger players.... with upside.
Again, maybe you're right, but for me he's not for sale.
People comparing him to Lucic and such are clueless. Anderson is a very good skater, he will age so much better.
 

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I mean that 'if' is probably and 'IF' in Vilardi's case.
As mentioned responding other poster in this tread, I don't want to trade Anderson. Vilardi, I liked him from day one, but we already have no space at Center as is.
I'd be more curious about guys like Roy or Walker (if healthy).
Seems like you guys already have Doughty, Durzi, 2 mentioned above + Spence/Clarke potentially making the big team.
For what its worth i feel like the kings should use their RHD + Vilardi... add more and go for Chychrun

Andersen Doughty
Chychrun Clarke

As a potential top 4 this year or next would be top notch, theyd have nice options as 3rd pairing too
 

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I have no interest in Anderson, but just for Habs fans’ knowledge, Vilardi is most effective as a winger at the NHL level. He doesn’t have the skating or neutral zone puck transporting ability to play center at a high level. I think he’s going to be a good to great middle six winger, but if you’re looking for a center you’re better off targeting Kupari, JAD, or waiting to see what Turcotte can do whenever he’s healthy.

Kings needs are big, mobile LHD and young goalies with pedigree.
 

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For what its worth i feel like the kings should use their RHD + Vilardi... add more and go for Chychrun

Andersen Doughty
Chychrun Clarke

As a potential top 4 this year or next would be top notch
Maybe I'm wrong, but I wouldn't trade Chychrun if the main piece coming back was Vilardi and like I've said before I like him...
 

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I have no interest in Anderson, but just for Habs fans’ knowledge, Vilardi is most effective as a winger at the NHL level. He doesn’t have the skating or neutral zone puck transporting ability to play center at a high level. I think he’s going to be a good to great middle six winger, but if you’re looking for a center you’re better off targeting Kupari, JAD, or waiting to see what Turcotte can do whenever he’s healthy.

Kings needs are big, mobile LHD and young goalies with pedigree.
Get chychrun COWARDS!

Maybe I'm wrong, but I wouldn't trade Chychrun if the main piece coming back was Vilardi and like I've said before I like him...
Ya you may be right but If its Vilardi + 1st + RHD... maybe another piece i imagine its prob close.

Im also not as high on chychrun and dont think hell bring back nearly as much as suggested in the past.
 

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I have no interest in Anderson, but just for Habs fans’ knowledge, Vilardi is most effective as a winger at the NHL level. He doesn’t have the skating or neutral zone puck transporting ability to play center at a high level. I think he’s going to be a good to great middle six winger, but if you’re looking for a center you’re better off targeting Kupari, JAD, or waiting to see what Turcotte can do whenever he’s healthy.

Kings needs are big, mobile LHD and young goalies with pedigree.
Thanks for the info.
I'd prefer keeping Anderson.
We have big, mobile LHD, but we're keeping them ;)
Perhaps Struble, still in NCAA, could be available and fits the bill.
 
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I have no interest in Anderson, but just for Habs fans’ knowledge, Vilardi is most effective as a winger at the NHL level. He doesn’t have the skating or neutral zone puck transporting ability to play center at a high level. I think he’s going to be a good to great middle six winger, but if you’re looking for a center you’re better off targeting Kupari, JAD, or waiting to see what Turcotte can do whenever he’s healthy.

Kings needs are big, mobile LHD and young goalies with pedigree.
What would you trade us for Clang :)
 

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I have no interest in Anderson, but just for Habs fans’ knowledge, Vilardi is most effective as a winger at the NHL level. He doesn’t have the skating or neutral zone puck transporting ability to play center at a high level. I think he’s going to be a good to great middle six winger, but if you’re looking for a center you’re better off targeting Kupari, JAD, or waiting to see what Turcotte can do whenever he’s healthy.

Kings needs are big, mobile LHD and young goalies with pedigree.
Montreal is not looking for a center either. Nor a winger for that matter.

The best fit for a LA/MTL trade is trading a RHD (position of strenght, depth) vs a LHD (also a position of strenght and depth)
 

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Montreal is not looking for a center either. Nor a winger for that matter.

The best fit for a LA/MTL trade is trading a RHD (position of strenght, depth) vs a LHD (also a position of strenght and depth)
Agreed on the potential benefit, but last I checked Anderson wasn’t a LHD. ;)
 

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Agreed on the potential benefit, but last I checked Anderson wasn’t a LHD. ;)
There clearly isn't a fit for a Anderson trade, and OP was proposing only to get a RHD from a position of strenght. LHD is more practical than letting go of Anderson, who we will gladly keep. LA fan said LHD is a need. And we have that depth to discuss...

Like I said before, Edmundson, Harris, Leskinen, Norlinder and Strubble would be available for such a trade.
50% retention probably available on Edmundson...
Forget about Ghule & Xhekaj ;)

Strubble might be the one you are looking for if looking for a young big body. He is all muscle... 6'0", 205 lbs.
21yo, former 2nd rounder. Playing his last year in NCAA. Drafted by Bergevin...
 
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Get chychrun COWARDS!


Ya you may be right but If its Vilardi + 1st + RHD... maybe another piece i imagine its prob close.

Im also not as high on chychrun and dont think hell bring back nearly as much as suggested in the past.
I can see why a Ducks fan wants the King's to dump Vilardi & other assets for a perpetually year injured Chychrun. :skeptic:

King's fans know this isn't the correct time to move Vilardi.
 

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There clearly isn't a fit for a Anderson trade, and OP was proposing only to get a RHD from a position of strenght. LHD is more practical than letting go of Anderson, who we will gladly keep. LA fan said LHD is a need. And we have that depth to discuss...

Like I said before, Edmundson, Harris, Leskinen, Norlinder and Strubble would be available for such a trade.
50% retention probably available on Edmundson...
Forget about Ghule & Xhekaj ;)

Strubble might be the one you are looking for if looking for a young big body. He is all muscle... 6'0", 205 lbs.
21yo, former 2nd rounder. Playing his last year in NCAA.
I think Struble or Harris are interesting, but I doubt either is more than a bottom pairing guy long-term. That’s fine, but it’s gonna change who’s available from LA. Our biggest hole is on the 2nd pair, and frankly Kirsanov is likely a similar prospect to Harris or Struble in terms of upside so I’m not sure there’d be interest.
 
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