Proposal: Josh Anderson to LA for Gabriel Vilardi + RHD

[Chose]

I think Struble or Harris are interesting, but I doubt either is more than a bottom pairing guy long-term. That’s fine, but it’s gonna change who’s available from LA. Our biggest hole is on the 2nd pair, and frankly Kirsanov is likely a similar prospect to Harris or Struble in terms of upside so I’m not sure there’d be interest.

Harris has 2nd pair potential. He is actually playing top4 on right side right now. He is very mobile and brilliant.
Mature over his years.

But isn't Kirsanov a LHD too ?

We might be ready to accept an older RHD, with 3rd pairing & PK profile, to help wait for Barron & Mailloux to be ready. And move Wideman to 7th.

 

[BringTheReign]

Harris has 2nd pair potential. He is actually playing top4 on right side right now. He is very mobile and brilliant.
Mature over his years.

But isn't Kirsanov a LHD too ?

We might be ready to accept an older RHD, with 3rd pairing & PK profile, to help wait for Barron & Mailloux to be ready. And move Wideman to 7th.

Kirsanov is a LHD, yes. And yeah, I could see Harris getting there but I guess I was just saying I could also see Kirsanov similarly being a top 4 option. I know it’ll take significant assets, but all I’m saying is the Kings probably aren’t interested in anything but sure fire NHL top 4 LHD as we have prospect lotto tickets like Kirsanov and Bjornfot (just not as many on the left).

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

I can see why a Ducks fan wants the King's to dump Vilardi & other assets for a perpetually year injured Chychrun.

King's fans know this isn't the correct time to move Vilardi.

Some kings fans…. Personally I’d wait and see on vilardi tho…. I was high on him draft year.


As for chychrun…. I think he can play lesser mins in LA which would help with his durability…. When healthy he’s probably a perfect fit for kings…. But health is def a concern

 

[Groo]

There is no way Ghule leaves. And we are not looking for a RHD his caliber. Also not looking for a Vilardi...

Take that up with the OP.

 

[Trash Panda]

Kings probably don’t have interest in Anderson on waivers, much less at the cost of Gabe.

Something around the glut of RHD and center prospects from LA, in exchange for a LHD or goaltender is much more in line with what the Kings could use.

 

[Chose]

Take that up with the OP.

Isn't he reading his own thread ?
I think he was trying to be creative, that's all.
But from all the reactions, I guess we all understand there is no fit nor love for Anderson in LA.
I don't know why he was targeting Vilardi, as we are stacked up front...

 

[Mats26]

Poor proposal because it's missing the King's needs. The Team is done rebuilding and is a playoff contender. More parts are needed to become a cup contender down the road. Top 4 established but young LD with size\mobility. Goaltender(post Quick). A few kids breaking out while on their ELC contracts and some more grit\size would also be nice.

We need to stay away from trades that include often injured long term contracts and kids that still need hand holding. Look at the Fiala for Faber trade as what the management is looking at adding. Quality prospect for quality established player that fills a need.

 

[Chose]

Poor proposal because it's missing the King's needs. The Team is done rebuilding and is a playoff contender. More parts are needed to become a cup contender down the road. Top 4 established but young LD with size\mobility. Goaltender(post Quick). A few kids breaking out while on their ELC contracts and some more grit\size would also be nice.

We need to stay away from trades that include often injured long term contracts and kids that still need hand holding. Look at the Fiala for Faber trade as what the management is looking at adding. Quality prospect for quality established player that fills a need.

I don't see another Fiala being on the block. And I don't see how LA fits one of those into the cap.
Edmundson (50% retained) vs ? Who would you offer ?
(He is day to day, I am almost sure this is to protect him and that he will start the season)
6'5" 221 lbs, plays a mean game, a solid leader... Stanley cup winner in STL. 2 years left on his contract.

 

[Mats26]

I don't see another Fiala being on the block. And I don't see how LA fits one of those into the cap.
Edmundson (50% retained) vs ? Who would you offer ?
(He is day to day, I am almost sure this is to protect him and that he will start the season)
6'5", plays a mean game, a solid leader... Stanley cup winner in STL.

Edmundson (50% retained) is a deadline deal if we are in the playoffs for picks.

 

[Neutrinos]

Had they not just given Allen that headscratcher of an extension, I think the framework to a mutually beneficial trade may have been rather obvious if Anderson was a player the Kings were interested in

Kings <-- Anderson, Allen

Habs <-- Vilardi, Walker, Petersen, (Lemieux)

 

[Chose]

Edmundson (50% retained) is a deadline deal if we are in the playoffs for picks.

We will probably keep his leadership then until 2024's deadline then.
We are looking for a RHD now for a stopgap until Barron & Mailloux are ready.

What would you want for your RHD depth ? Roy/Durzi or even Walker ?

 

[YP44]

Thats a pretty big if, to take on 5.5 mil for what 5 years? And give up a big bodied center.

Vilardi might not fit in LA... but i imagine a lot of teams would take value in a big bodied center, who is a PPG in AHL, and has shown capabilities to score at nhl level. And a RHD.

I say this as someone who loves Josh Andersons game and wish we could add him in anaheim... that contract is pretty risky for teams to grab, specially given his decline/style and likely hood that he doesnt pan out for the duration.

You mean big bodied winger. Vilardi will start as LA's RW2 till Arvidson is back.

Had they not just given Allen that headscratcher of an extension, I think the framework to a mutually beneficial trade may have been rather obvious if Anderson was a player the Kings were interested in

Kings <-- Anderson, Allen

Habs <-- Vilardi, Walker, Petersen, (Lemieux)

how does this make any sense for LA

 

[Mats26]

We will probably keep his leadership then until 2024's deadline then.
We are looking for a RHD now for a stopgap until Barron & Mailloux are ready.

What would you want for your RHD depth ? Roy/Durzi or even Walker ?

Walker is the odd man out playing LD when he should be RD. He is not holding any kid back because we just don't have an LD that can fill his roll. Bjornfot needs more time. Ideally Walker for Edmundson with some retention and adds on both sides to even it out would make sense. Both provide short term solutions.

 

[stevo61]

I feel like fans of other teams think Anderson is worse than he is but many Montreal fans think he is better than he actually is. Hes a good player but like many are pointing out, that contract is scary. Hes had health worries for awhile now and the team that drafted him and loved him as a player couldnt even commit to the contract Montreal gave him

 

[Mersss]

I think Struble or Harris are interesting, but I doubt either is more than a bottom pairing guy long-term. That’s fine, but it’s gonna change who’s available from LA. Our biggest hole is on the 2nd pair, and frankly Kirsanov is likely a similar prospect to Harris or Struble in terms of upside so I’m not sure there’d be interest.

Lol @ Kirsanov being a similar prospect...

Harris as already played in the NHL and looking quite good doing so on a dumpster team...

Only reason why Habs trade Struble ia due to depth and contract talks if he plans not to sign

 

[Chose]

Walker is the odd man out playing LD when he should be RD. He is not holding any kid back because we just don't have an LD that can fill his roll. Bjornfot needs more time. Ideally Walker for Edmundson with some retention and adds on both sides to even it out would make sense. Both provide short term solutions.

I don't know LA that much, but Walker for a 50% Edmundson seems like too much to pay on our side. The added return would have to be interesting... a 2023 2nd might do it...

 

[funky]

I don't know LA that much, but Walker for a 50% Edmundson seems like too much to pay on our side. The added return would have to be interesting... a 2023 2nd might do it...

I would do a Walker and a 2nd for Edmundson @50% in a heart beat.

He is the exact kind of Defenceman on the left side that we need

 

[ole ole]

Would you trade Josh Anderson to LA for Gabriel Vilardi and one of their RHD.

Montreal does this because Anderson was rumored to be on the trade block last year and allows them to clear his large salary. They acquire a young up-and-coming center and a RHD which would push one their young D to Laval.

LA does this to get a big physical winger to replace Brown for 2 players who might have to be put on waivers anyway

Hell no. Vilardi is basically a bust and we can find a #6/7 RHD quite easily.

Substitute Anderson For Ghule and put the plus going to the Kings

You better be prepared to pony up if you want Ghule and not the garbage mentioned in this thread.

 

[YP44]

Hell no. Vilardi is basically a bust and we can find a #6/7 RHD quite easily.


You better be prepared to pony up if you want Ghule and not the garbage mentioned in this thread.

I would not call Vilardi a bust yet. He looked really good last year in the AHL once he got used to the wing, year before was playing over his head when used as #2C. So far this pre-season has been one of LA's better and most consistent players. Small sample i know but I am still excited about him.

 

[NewEraGM]

Groan, you're coming after Vilardi simply because Kings fans say it's not a fit?

Don't worry, I think we'll be able to find another 28-year-old 35-point forward making less than 6 million somewhere in the next two years. Anderson is all yours.

We will gladly keep him. His contract isn’t even that bad.

Guess you're not up on current events.

Tell me about these current events

 

[McSuper]

The rumours around Anderson were explicitly that he wasn't on the trade block despite teams inquiring. Its pretty clear that they're not looking to move him.

You forgot the important part
"Its pretty clear that they're not looking to move him" with the retention it takes to move him.

 

[Captain Mountain]

You forgot the important part
"Its pretty clear that they're not looking to move him" with the retention it takes to move him.

The groupthink on here that completely and utterly ignores reporting from the top insiders never ceases to amaze me.

 

[Mats26]

Lol @ Kirsanov being a similar prospect...

Harris as already played in the NHL and looking quite good doing so on a dumpster team...

Only reason why Habs trade Struble ia due to depth and contract talks if he plans not to sign

lol Durzi would of been the next Guy Lapointe for you

 

[Mats26]

I would do a Walker and a 2nd for Edmundson @50% in a heart beat.

He is the exact kind of Defenceman on the left side that we need

yup... it's about the only deal on this thread that will actually help both teams. Walker on their RD is a decent stop gap for the loss of Petry until someone steps up.

 

[samsagat]

LA doesn’t need forwards but LHD

That's good because we have plenty of young LHD and you have plenty of young RHD.

Jordan Harris for one of Helge Grans/Jordan Spence?