Proposal: Josh Anderson to LA for Gabriel Vilardi + RHD

[blankall]

I'm curious what other fans think Anderson should have been paid - personally as a Habs fan I don't think the contract is an albatross, I also don't think that trading him should be the priority unless the return is right. We have a lot coming off the cap next season and other priorities to trade.

I also don't think evaluating a player like Anderson based purely on points is looking at the whole picture.

A lot of UFA contracts essentially drop a player's value to zero:

1. If you're willing to spend that kind of cash, you can get a similar player for free as a UFA.
2. UFA contracts, by their nature, are dictated by the market but also tend to be way too large.

You can't just sign a bunch of UFAs for UFA contracts, which tend to be overpaid to begin with, and then flip them for assets. You really think you can just sign a player like J. Andersson and then expect LA to give up a great young player on an ELC? Why would the do that. Why wouldn't they just sign Andersson, or a similar player, on the market for a massive contract.

Just as fun as thinking Villardi is worth a 1st rd pick.
Guy can't skate and can't produce offensivelly...

Vilardi has 5 points in 4 games. He was drafted #11 overall and seems to be progressing very well for a power forward drafted at that position. He's easily worth a first round pick.

 

[smirob]

A lot of UFA contracts essentially drop a player's value to zero:

1. If you're willing to spend that kind of cash, you can get a similar player for free as a UFA.
2. UFA contracts, by their nature, are dictated by the market but also tend to be way too large.

You can't just sign a bunch of UFAs for UFA contracts, which tend to be overpaid to begin with, and then flip them for assets. You really think you can just sign a player like J. Andersson and then expect LA to give up a great young player on an ELC? Why would the do that. Why wouldn't they just sign Andersson, or a similar player, on the market for a massive contract.

Anderson was an RFA I believe when he came from Columbus -I'm not sure what his status at signing has to do with value anyways.... We can argue on whether he has value, but personally I wouldn't move him as a 'cap dump' because I don't believe he is one. I don't think LA takes the deal (I didn't suggest it), I just think there are a lot of teams that would value Anderson based on more than just points.

 

[GermanSpitfire]

Just as fun as thinking Villardi is worth a 1st rd pick.
Guy can't skate and can't produce offensivelly...

It’s early, but that second statement has been proven false.

 

[Colezuki]

Anderson was an RFA I believe when he came from Columbus -I'm not sure what his status at signing has to do with value. We can argue on whether he has value, but personally I wouldn't move him as a 'cap dump' because I don't believe he is one. I don't think LA takes the deal (I didn't suggest it), I just think there are a lot of teams that would value Anderson based on more than just points.

RFA with 1 year and arbitration rights , Canadiens we’re given 2 options long term deal or 1 year deal. They took long term

 

[dman34]

I wouldn't trade Vilardi for Anderson let alone add a young RHD.

 

[blankall]

Anderson was an RFA I believe when he came from Columbus -I'm not sure what his status at signing has to do with value anyways.... We can argue on whether he has value, but personally I wouldn't move him as a 'cap dump' because I don't believe he is one. I don't think LA takes the deal (I didn't suggest it), I just think there are a lot of teams that would value Anderson based on more than just points.

Either way, Anderson signed the UFA contract and got paid well into his UFA years. He's already 28 and signed until 32-33. Anderson isn't a prospect on a RFA, and a player like him can easily be picked up for free as a UFA if your throwing those kinds of funds at players.

 

[Frolov 6'3]

It’s early, but that second statement has been proven false.

Yup. Its intriguing anyway. He only played a few games each season and one covid one.

All seasons were in the 15-20 goals range over a full season. Than you read statements like he cant produce offensively, something you read quite frequently. Yes it should/could be better but it was a myth.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

Vilardi is already making this thread look silly.

Most impactful LA forward night after night now.

 

[unicornpig]

Just as fun as thinking Villardi is worth a 1st rd pick.
Guy can't skate and can't produce offensivelly...

this post wont age well.

 

[Mats26]

Anderson and Gallagher are in the trash bin category. You hope some team will take them off your hands. Every team has at least 1 bad contract. Pumping them to say they bring character, grit, size, whatever won't justify the price tag (cap space) they take up. Way to long of a contract to move either of them unless a sweeter is added + retention. Asking for one of the Kings top forward prospect and a RHD is laughable.

 

[Kurrilino]

I read it more as the OP wants to add the 1st rounder and defender to get rid of Anderson

 

[RC51]

Anderson and Gallagher are in the trash bin category. You hope some team will take them off your hands. Every team has at least 1 bad contract. Pumping them to say they bring character, grit, size, whatever won't justify the price tag (cap space) they take up. Way to long of a contract to move either of them unless a sweeter is added + retention. Asking for one of the Kings top forward prospect and a RHD is laughable.

ok lets make a deal., you get Anderson and Gally at 50% off the extra come with an ask. you get Ghule but you have to take my wife ( cant cook, wont clean and has knees that have never been used)

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

Anderson and Gallagher are in the trash bin category. You hope some team will take them off your hands. Every team has at least 1 bad contract. Pumping them to say they bring character, grit, size, whatever won't justify the price tag (cap space) they take up. Way to long of a contract to move either of them unless a sweeter is added + retention. Asking for one of the Kings top forward prospect and a RHD is laughable.

I think with retention either of those guys would make a contender happy at the deadline, frankly.

But trying to trade Anderson for Vilardi then proceeding to call Vilardi a waiver-fodder bust while he's one of the top scorers in the league is a typical MTL-to-LA thread unfortunately.

 

[Mats26]

ok lets make a deal., you get Anderson and Gally at 50% off the extra come with an ask. you get Ghule but you have to take my wife ( cant cook, wont clean and has knees that have never been used)

So that's who my ex ended up with.

 

[Sol]

Vilardi has taken such a step forward this year. I’ve never seen a player take such a massive step. You guys should watch him. His game is extremely good.

 

[jgimp]

ok lets make a deal., you get Anderson and Gally at 50% off the extra come with an ask. you get Ghule but you have to take my wife ( cant cook, wont clean and has knees that have never been used)

Isn’t that most wives these days?

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

This thread is getting funnier by the game

Almost as good as the Danault to LA "1 million per goal" thread

 

[FSL KINGS]

As soon as Vilardi stops his point streak, he's getting waived.

 

[PullHard]

I am curious what would need to be added to Anderson to get to Vilardi, it would be mountainous though

 

[HookKing]

I am curious what would need to be added to Anderson to get to Vilardi, it would be mountainous though

Gabe is going nowhere. Shut this baby down.

 

[unicornpig]

I am curious what would need to be added to Anderson to get to Vilardi, it would be mountainous though

at this point nothing. wouldn't do vilardi 1 for 1 for any of montreals young studs either. he's been the kings best player by a country mile.

 

[bert]

at this point nothing. wouldn't do vilardi 1 for 1 for any of montreals young studs either. he's been the kings best player by a country mile.

Oh ok. Love what I'm seeing but no need for this.

 

[Natey]

Just as fun as thinking Villardi is worth a 1st rd pick.
Guy can't skate and can't produce offensivelly...

Did I say he was?

 

[Habs Halifax]

so if he cant make it on a shitty team .. why would he be good on a good team?

Who says he can't make it on a shitty team?

 

[tstracuzza]

Habs fans never fail to make themselves look silly. What a pathetic proposal.