John Tavares injury

[Arto Kilponen]

Any news about Tavares condition?

 

[Kublakhan]

Perry saw the whole thing develop. From Tavares getting hit, to falling, to turning his head. I think options besides lifting his knee into Tavares face area were available. He didn’t take those options and he took the one that could get a licking in on an opponent. Yes it’s all opinion, but it’s opinion based on seeing these plays from Perry with regularity for a decade plus of hockey. And don’t think the 6 clips I posted emcompasses all of what Perry has offered this game. I was only on page 2 of Videos. There’s plenty more to suggest this is a regular occurrence with Perry.

in a fraction of a second Perry figured out he could take the player out with a knee and make it look like a accident?? You are making Perry much better at slowing the game down than he really is..

But get Well Soon JT ...

 

[Ovie's Neighbor]

When your captain goes down like that there will be a fight. Accident or not that is the code. Perry knew it, he took the fight and then the game went on.

 

[BenningHurtsMySoul]

When your captain goes down like that there will be a fight. Accident or not that is the code. Perry knew it, he took the fight and then the game went on.

Yeah pretty much, accident or not you took their #1 centre out of the game and likely the series. You're going to have to face some heat

 

[TheNumber4]

You really need to watch the video again. By the time Tavares "turned around" as you so put it, Perry is pretty much on top of him.

I see Perry take two strides as Tavares is hit and falling to the right. Perry glides after striding right to where Tavares head will be falling to.

 

[DramaticGloveSave]

They should have, but chose not too. In the end, if that little tuzzle was what needed to not get things out of hand, it's better than nothing and late/dirty payback mindset after.

Honestly I agree. Hope that scrap puts an end to it.

 

[Barnum]

Maybe. But Perry saw the Tavares hit, fall down, turn around, all develop from a good 15-20 strides out. Dude has a history of embellishment and pretending he didn’t do what he meant to do. So Im not buying this based on this supposed unavoidable contact. I would ask Perry why he knee lifted instead of rotating his knee and body away from Tavares face. That option was available to him.

Holy shit man, did you lose your glasses or find a career in revisionism?

 

[JianYang]

There was another guy in this game tonight who got hurt in a very similar fashion.



The whiplash on tavares' injury was sickening though. I was happy to see the thumbs up afterwards at least.

 

[Bruinaura]

in a fraction of a second Perry figured out he could take the player out with a knee and make it look like a accident?? You are making Perry much better at slowing the game down than he really is..

But get Well Soon JT ...

 

[Edmonton East]

Good on Perry (ugh) for taking the fight, but c'mon. I'm a "the code" kinda guy, but this was obviously a freak accident, bang bang play with a very unfortunate outcome. Fight was kinda silly.

 

[TheNumber4]

in a fraction of a second Perry figured out he could take the player out with a knee and make it look like a accident?? You are making Perry much better at slowing the game down than he really is..

But get Well Soon JT ...

the hit the the head took a fraction of a second. Tavares falling to the left, and Perry striding up and then gliding towards Tavares head had more than enough time to make a different decision than Perry made.

 

[DramaticGloveSave]

The fight was more "let's have the fight to not escalate it further with late hits and dirty plays following it".

Ya I think the fight allowed both teams to return to the hockey game.

 

[Del Preston]

the hit the the head took a fraction of a second. Tavares falling to the left, and Perry striding up and then gliding towards Tavares head had more than enough time to make a different decision than Perry made.

Tavares was still rolling towards Perry when contact was made. There's not a chance in hell that was intentional. I posted the gif at real speed a couple pages ago.

 

[TheNumber4]

There was another guy in this game tonight who got hurt in a very similar fashion.



The whiplash on tavares' injury was sickening though. I was happy to see the thumbs up afterwards at least.

See now here’s an unavoidable play. Someone falling into someone’s knees.

Tavares fell way before Perry’s knee was even close. Perry had time to take strides and direct his glide. He chose to glide towards some sort of impact with Tavares. It did not have to be this way.

 

[c3z4r]

Maybe. But Perry saw the Tavares hit, fall down, turn around, all develop from a good 15-20 strides out. Dude has a history of embellishment and pretending he didn’t do what he meant to do. So Im not buying this based on this supposed unavoidable contact. I would ask Perry why he knee lifted instead of rotating his knee and body away from Tavares face. That option was available to him.

Nobody denies that Perry has been/is a dirty player and a pest, but that doesn't mean he's some evil genius constantly plotting ways to injure his opponents.

Perry is a foot away when Tavares is falling down

 

[TheTechNoir]

I’m a Sharks fan so I’m well aware of Perry’s antics, but there’s cheap shots and then attempted murder. No player would purposely try to do that. Not even Wilson.

I hate saying this, because it detracts from appropriate conversation. You can't knowingly state or know 'no player' would purposely try to do that, especially with a motive behind it, or potentially other factors, including substance abuse issues, mental health, what have you. BUT this does NOT matter for this event. I'm just going to keep my mouth shut. Any discussion about this event that is about Perry, or Perry's past, or intent, are missing what matters here. This was clearly no intentional. But most importantly we have what is a scary incident. For anyone who cares about player safety or Tavares, his family, or athlete's health or anything like that. Focus on that, show support for those potential issues. There is CLEARLY no objectively plain and simple, indisputable intent here (nor is there a strong reason to consensus suspect so), so focus on what we know and what matters. Tavares. Player health, player's life.

 

[TheNumber4]

Tavares was still rolling towards Perry when contact was made. There's not a chance in hell that was intentional. I posted the gif at real speed a couple pages ago.

Saw the clip. Would like to see one where Perry isn’t off screen when the play develops. I don’t think it exists though.

 

[PanniniClaus]

I don't have the time or energy to put together Perry's accidentally on purpose compilation but someone will and it will be an eye opener.

The Neymar barrel roll after he makes contact is a question i'd love to put to him. He doesn't try to jump...he makes it LOOK like he tries to jump once he runs over JT's head like a monster truck wheel running over a pylon.

Corey Perry can go f*** himself... A purebread piece of shit and always will be..

 

[HomelessPepper]

Wouldn't surprise me if Tavares returned early if the Leafs are on the brinks of elimination.

Leafs fan here, they better ****ING not! His health >>>>>>>>≥> hockey at any capacity. I really hope he's not rushed back. And further, I hope the org refuses to let him rush back *if* he tries.

 

[sh724]

Maybe. But Perry saw the Tavares hit, fall down, turn around, all develop from a good 15-20 strides out. Dude has a history of embellishment and pretending he didn’t do what he meant to do. So Im not buying this based on this supposed unavoidable contact. I would ask Perry why he knee lifted instead of rotating his knee and body away from Tavares face. That option was available to him.

15-20 strides? how long are your legs?

Im only 5 8 and 20 strides i can go from the end boards to the blue line without issue. When Taveres first starts to go down Perry is at most 15 feet away.

In order for that to have been intentional Perry would have had to know 1) that Tavares was going to get hit 2) that he was going to go down and 3) that he was going to go down at that precise angle. If you watch the angle from the other end of the ice, Perry isnt even looking at Tavares but passed him

Could Perry have chosen to spin? He saw someone go down right in front of him and his immediate natural response was to jump, he didnt even have time to think just react. Also you are assuming the outcome would have been different if Perry would have spun. As little time Perry had to react it likely plays out the same way.

I say all this as someone who has hated Perry since he first came into the league.

 

[TheNumber4]

Nobody denies that Perry has been/is a dirty player and a pest, but that doesn't mean he's some evil genius constantly plotting ways to injure his opponents.

Perry is a foot away when Tavares is falling down

maybe evil genius and intent to injure is a stretch. But taking a chunk out of an opponent at an opurtune time, is definately in Perry’s wheelhouse. The results might not have been what Perry was looking for, but Perry’s never really thought about results when he does the stupid, dangerous, and emotionally charged actions he’s made his whole career.

 

[sfvega]

If there's one guy in the game who DOESN'T have the reaction time to even pull something like that off, it's Corey Perry. If he had that type of reaction time and coordination, he wouldn't be the dinosaur he is out there....

 

[kingpest19]

I see Perry take two strides as Tavares is hit and falling to the right. Perry glides after striding right to where Tavares head will be falling to.

Lol. Perry is about 10-15 feet from the blue line when contact is initiated. By the time Tavares hits the ice and rolls over he's at the blue line and Perry is on top of him with no way to avoid contact. And then there's the little fact that Perry was already starting to move that way when the hit was initiated. Perry has a history of being a dirt bag but this wasn't one of those instances

 

[Coaches Coroner]

just hoping he is ok. couldn't have cared much less about the game after, just gutted

 

[TheNumber4]

15-20 strides? how long are your legs?

Im only 5 8 and 20 strides i can go from the end boards to the blue line without issue. When Taveres first starts to go down Perry is at most 15 feet away.

In order for that to have been intentional Perry would have had to know 1) that Tavares was going to get hit 2) that he was going to go down and 3) that he was going to go down at that precise angle. If you watch the angle from the other end of the ice, Perry isnt even looking at Tavares but passed him

Could Perry have chosen to spin? He saw someone go down right in front of him and his immediate natural response was to jump, he didnt even have time to think just react. Also you are assuming the outcome would have been different if Perry would have spun. As little time Perry had to react it likely plays out the same way.

I say all this as someone who has hated Perry since he first came into the league.

Players can make intentional split second decisions within a split second. The brain works fast. And when you see a play develop like Perry did (he had a great view), it’s possible to predict on instinct where Tavares will be falling towards and adjust accordingly.