Value of: Jeff Petry (with or without retention)

[HabsWhiteKnightLOL]

Nobody’s paying two seconds for a guy turning 36 in December and didn’t have a great tenure in Pittsburgh. They’ll be lucky to get one second.

I would agree with you but history has shown that some GMs are completely stupid when it comes to trade or make a panic move.

 

[madhi19]

A lot of people are saying that, but for me this absolutely makes sense.

Jeff Petry loved his time in Montreal. He had great success, loved the city/fans, and had great time with teammates, etc.

It's true he asked for a trade out of Montreal. But a lot of that had to do with him no longer fitting the team and the direction it was going and needing a change. If he had a NTC where he only had 5 teams, I'm sure Montreal wouldn't make his list, but 15 team list? I dunno - I can definitely see him not blocking Montreal. There are way worst options out there for him.

As a Habs fan I'm happy to see him back. If we keep him to start season - I can definitely see him bouncing back and putting forth a stronger year. But I could also see us flipping him too. I'm fine either way.

You're giving him too much credit, he probably did not pick the Habs because he considered it the free bingo space on his no-trade list. "What are the odds that they trade for me back right?" I do agree Montreal could just eat half and get a decent return. Petry at 6 was a overpriced problem Petry at 2.34 is a steal.

 

[Mersss]

Worst part about retaining is it spills over into '24-25. When Habs should be contending. I'd try give Petry away instead. The 4.7m caphit would return us a first now. in this era of teams starving for caproom. Plus frees us up another 2.3m in caproom for '24-25.

Petry now at no retention has zero trade value. Dumba just signed for 3.9m. At 3.2m Petry we would get a 2nd tops, more likely a 3rd. If Montreal moves him now. But defensemen trade value usually increases near March trade deadline.

In what Universe will Habs be contending in 24-25?

We don't have a real #1G nor a top G prospect
We don't have a super star #1 F that can notch 100pts
Our D is good, but no all star Dman talent that can be a #1 D for the next 15years.

Habs won't be contenders until we are able to get all of the above.

 

[Egresch]

In what Universe will Habs be contending in 24-25?

We don't have a real #1G nor a top G prospect
We don't have a super star #1 F that can notch 100pts
Our D is good, but no all star Dman talent that can be a #1 D for the next 15years.

Habs won't be contenders until we are able to get all of the above.

Vegas has no of those and still managed to win the cup.

 

[Unspecified]

Weren't we led to believe by Montreal fans that Petry was worth a 1st+

 

[sansabri]

Weren't we led to believe by Montreal fans that Petry was worth a 1st+

are you confused? Petry was traded to the Habs

 

[Nico Cauzuki]

Weren't we led to believe by Montreal fans that Petry was worth a 1st+

Do you mean Pittsburgh? because we got Matheson for Petry which was a great trade for us

and after we retain 50% on Petry will get more picks/prospects

 

[Unspecified]

are you confused? Petry was traded to the Habs

When Dallas was brought up on HF boards as being a good spot for Petry prior to last season he was said to be worth a 1st+

 

[sansabri]

When Dallas was brought up on HF boards as being a good spot for Petry prior to last season he was said to be worth a 1st+

you're still thinking about our cup run huh

 

[Michoulicious]

In what Universe will Habs be contending in 24-25?

We don't have a real #1G nor a top G prospect
We don't have a super star #1 F that can notch 100pts
Our D is good, but no all star Dman talent that can be a #1 D for the next 15years.

Habs won't be contenders until we are able to get all of the above.

Petry is 35 and still a valuable piece for a contender looking for solid depth on the right side, especially around 3 millions per, but he doesn't fit Montreal's window at all. Montreal won't be contending for 2-3 years, at least, if everything goes well.


Montreal already has some vet leadership with Savard, no reason to bring another 30+ D on that roster at this stage.

He will be flipped, my guess is sooner than later.

 

[Cenzo_]

Pens werent' in a position to retain 3 million for 2 years. Petry with retention was never considered from pittsburgh.

Except they did retain 25%!!

 

[Bouboumaster]

If we were aiming for the cup in 2024 sure, but we're not.

That I agree with

I was responding to a comment that was saying that Xhekaj and Harris were both better than Chiarot, which they aren't

 

[FerrisRox]

Pittsburgh just spent 6 weeks trying to move him and had to pay for someone to take him. He’s there for two years unless something crazy happens.

You are leaving out that Pittsburgh also just ate 25% of his contract, which makes him a lot more interesting.

 

[Beendair Donedat]

Petry retained at 50% (down to 2.3) holds a ton of value to a contender that’s looking for some cheap and reliable right hand shot depth. He can still skate quite well, and would be solid on a second pairing and great on a third pair with a more physical partner.

Habs didn’t bother holding a presser after the deal so you’d have to think they’re already well into negotiations to move him along. We shall see how it all plays out shortly.

 

[FerrisRox]

The idea is Montreal needs to shed ideally about 5 millions before the start of this season.

Saying to wait for the deadline doesn't work.

Maybe to Arizona for a late pick? They certainly could unlock more value at the deadline. Only problem is the NTC.

Except the "idea" means nothing cause the Canadiens don't have to shed anything at all and the notion that dealing with off-season LTIR is some kind of dreaded problem for the team is totally fictional. I'm sure they couldn't care less about having Price on off-season or in-season LTIR.

This is an imaginary problem with an imaginary deadline.

 

[FerrisRox]

Worst part about retaining is it spills over into '24-25. When Habs should be contending.

Contending for what?

 

[TGWL]

At full? Nothing. Not before deadline, even that is difficult. At 50%, quite of bit of interest, especially at deadline, just depends if Montreal is looking for something valuable or looking to remove the player's cap.

 

[Snipeshow]

Our media ran him out of town on a rail, but Darnell Nurse always looked at his very best next to Petry. His contract also runs perfectly alongside McDavid and Draisaitl's current deals. Last but not least, his cap hit would fit at 50% retention.

The only question is would he (and his wife) be willing to play/live in Edmonton again. Given this might be his best chance at a Cup, I'd give it a small but non-zero chance.

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

Our media ran him out of town on a rail, but Darnell Nurse always looked at his very best next to Petry. His contract also runs perfectly alongside McDavid and Draisaitl's current deals. Last but not least, his cap hit would fit at 50% retention.

The only question is would he (and his wife) be willing to play/live in Edmonton again. Given this might be his best chance at a Cup, I'd give it a small but non-zero chance.

Probably not.

They wanted out of Canada because of the covid restrictions and seem to live in Michigan. Bit more of a travel to Michigan from Alberta than Quebec.

 

[Rob Sense]

In what Universe will Habs be contending in 24-25?

We don't have a real #1G nor a top G prospect
We don't have a super star #1 F that can notch 100pts
Our D is good, but no all star Dman talent that can be a #1 D for the next 15years.

Habs won't be contenders until we are able to get all of the above.

Some teams won Stanley Cups without all of the above.

 

[samsagat]

Florida could be a destination for him.

Their two bests RHD are LTIRed, they're in win now mode but with their defense it's gonna be difficult.

I don't know what Flo would be ready to pay, but Habs would probably want to receive a forward for Petry, maybe a guy like Ylonen could be added (to unclog Habs forwards depth). They have plenty of picks and prospects thay could be added too.

I don't know if it makes sense, but I could see HuGo wanting a guy like Reinhart.

Not 1 for 1, nor just with Ylonen added. But a combination of assets that would make sense.

 

[danyhabsfan]

Our media ran him out of town on a rail, but Darnell Nurse always looked at his very best next to Petry. His contract also runs perfectly alongside McDavid and Draisaitl's current deals. Last but not least, his cap hit would fit at 50% retention.

The only question is would he (and his wife) be willing to play/live in Edmonton again. Given this might be his best chance at a Cup, I'd give it a small but non-zero chance.

They played so well together...

Petry in Mtl and Nurse in Edmonton

 

[TGWL]

Our media ran him out of town on a rail, but Darnell Nurse always looked at his very best next to Petry. His contract also runs perfectly alongside McDavid and Draisaitl's current deals. Last but not least, his cap hit would fit at 50% retention.

The only question is would he (and his wife) be willing to play/live in Edmonton again. Given this might be his best chance at a Cup, I'd give it a small but non-zero chance.

Nurse played 2 NHL games during the only season they were both on an NHL roster.

 

[Frank Drebin]

Except they did retain 25%!!

Yes, in order to acquire Karlsson. They weren't shopping Petry the same way the Habs can, which is to eat dead cap for a couple years.

Nurse played 2 NHL games during the only season they were both on an NHL roster.

But he looked great in those 2 games.

 

[BoneHutson]

Florida could be a destination for him.

Their two bests RHD are LTIRed, they're in win now mode but with their defense it's gonna be difficult.

I don't know what Flo would be ready to pay, but Habs would probably want to receive a forward for Petry, maybe a guy like Ylonen could be added (to unclog Habs forwards depth). They have plenty of picks and prospects thay could be added too.

I don't know if it makes sense, but I could see HuGo wanting a guy like Reinhart.

Not 1 for 1, nor just with Ylonen added. But a combination of assets that would make sense.

Knight? His cap hit is at 4,5 and with Bobrovsky back to his former self, who knows how they see Knight now