Value of: Jeff Petry (with or without retention)

[Empoleon8771]

Petry @ ~3M to Dallas for Faksa and 1st rounder?

This looks like a pretty good deal on paper.

 

[Frank Drebin]

Petry would’ve been given a promise (by Montreal) that he’s not going anywhere, just to agree to this trade. So unless that deal happens today, and was always part of this, with his blessing, he’s playing in Montreal for the next 2 seasons.

The only way he agrees to another trade, for the 3rd time in 3 years, is if he’s having such a horrible time in Montreal, and at that point he won’t be worth anything anyway.

What gives you the impression that Petry has a no trade clause, especially after being traded twice in the past year?

 

[Junohockeyfan]

What gives you the impression that Petry has a no trade clause, especially after being traded twice in the past year?

Petry has a 15 team NTC. Strangely, the Habs were not one of the teams on his NTC.

 

[HockeyVirus]

Remember when Pens fans argued with me all season when I said Petry was a cap dump?

 

[Junohockeyfan]

Remember when Pens fans argued with me all season when I said Petry was a cap dump?

Klingberg at 4.2 will be a capdump in a few months time!

 

[Frank Drebin]

Petry has a 15 team NTC. Strangely, the Habs were not one of the teams on his NTC.

Is this a joke or something? I've read it posted twice now. Petry signed this contract when he was playing in Montreal, and had been there for 6 seasons.

 

[Junohockeyfan]

Is this a joke or something? I've read it posted twice now. Petry signed this contract when he was playing in Montreal, and had been there for 6 seasons.

Petry signed it in 2020 with Montreal. A 4 - year 25M contract. He played 1 year with Montreal and 1 with the Pens. Each year he submits a 15 team NTC.

 

[Frank Drebin]

Petry signed it in 2020 with Montreal. A 4 - year 25M contract. He played 1 year with Montreal and 1 with the Pens. Each year he submits a 15 team NTC.

ah. I thought the NTC list was fixed at the time of the original signing.

 

[HockeyVirus]

Klingberg at 4.2 will be a capdump in a few months time!

1 year contracts literally can't be cap dumps. They just expire

 

[HabsAddict]

Petry didn't want to leave the Habs, Petry wanted to leave the crazy covid rules of Quebec and Canada.

It was very clear to anyone that actually paid attention that he was split from his family...and hes very much a family man. He has 4 young sons.

(If you are not aware of the background reasons why he was traded then your opinion is not informed.)

Not going to be suprised if he remains a Hab, but that also depends on how he feels raising his children under Quebec school system. If he's comfortable with that, he might retire as a Hab. That may even have been a promise to him.

On the other hand, at half retained, he "could" fetch a really high pick or a first, give or take a prospect from us. Right now, 2x2nds also makes sense.

 

[Junohockeyfan]

1 year contracts literally can't be cap dumps. They just expire

You will wish it expired in November! lol

 

[elitepete]

Is Petry still a top 4 d?

 

[Junohockeyfan]

Habs won a Petry trade 3 times... and counting!

 

[Junohockeyfan]

Is Petry still a top 4 d?

Last season his CF% and TOI was on par with his career averages. He was 0.5PPG. He starts mostly in the defensive zone. His usage with the Pens was similar to the Habs.

He's not a top-pairing #2 dman anymore by any measure. He's second pairing. Can still skate. but he has declined from his peak (during the cup run). Injuries have played a role.

 

[Gabe Kupari]

He's not getting a 1st with retention otherwise Pitt would have likely done that trade instead of them paying for Montreal to take him. The 15 teams not on his ntc are all in the east.

He's a hab for now. Deadline? Might get a 3rd but again, eastern teams only

 

[Junohockeyfan]

He's not getting a 1st with retention otherwise Pitt would have likely done that trade instead of them paying for Montreal to take him. The 15 teams not on his ntc are all in the east.

He's a hab for now. Deadline? Might get a 3rd but again, eastern teams only

At the TDL, anything can happen. If Petry plays to his career averages and the Habs retain so he's 2.35M caphit, he will have very good value.

I can see Dallas a a potential. Petry's wife is Texan.

 

[HuGort]

Why tho?

Have have a very young d with Matheson as the only veteran worth anything...

I think that a D mix of

Guhle - Matheson
Harris - Petry
Xhekaj - Savard

Is a good mix of young and vets for the next 2-3 years.

Would like to fit in Barron in there so if Savard can play the left side with a good PMD like Barron so Xhekaj can go to Laval would he great

The 4.7m in caproom. It will bring much more in trade.

 

[Junohockeyfan]

It will bring much more in trade.

Please clarify.

 

[dirtydanglez]

i could see the avs being interested at deadline. with ej gone he could play a similar role. habs and avs have traded twice recently with lehkonen and newhook.

 

[Frank Drebin]

He's not getting a 1st with retention otherwise Pitt would have likely done that trade instead of them paying for Montreal to take him. The 15 teams not on his ntc are all in the east.

He's a hab for now. Deadline? Might get a 3rd but again, eastern teams only

Pens werent' in a position to retain 3 million for 2 years. Petry with retention was never considered from pittsburgh.

 

[Perfect_Drug]

Shame. Sorta feel like Edmonton could use him


His career trade tree would be in reverse.

 

[malcb33]

I think there would be a number of teams interested if Petry hits the market at 2.5-3M with some retention, as his value to the team will certainly exceed his cap hit. Petry’s trade clause will be the main thing limiting the trade, so I wouldn’t expect a tonne of value back.

Personally, I think it would be a great add for the Leafs, Avs or Dallas, but Petry wants to stay in the East apparently.

 

[Junohockeyfan]

Petry in the Habs lineup would allow more time for one of Barron / Xhekaj / Harris to develop in Laval. It wouldn't hurt to have Petry start the season in Montreal. A trade could be looked at during the season or at the TDL when there is more flexibility and need.

 

[ryan callahan]

What gives you the impression that Petry has a no trade clause, especially after being traded twice in the past year?

Trust me. Petry may not have put MTL on his NTC. But Hughes and Gorton definitely spoke to him about his intentions before the trade and have prepared in consequence (Either if he wants to be a vet for a bubble team or if he wants to be on another contender). KH and JG wouldn't do a player wrong like that. They will roughly follow Petry's intentions.

 

[HuGo Sham]

I think Petry at full salary would have mediocre value right now just due to the current cap situation with most teams. But if they retained 50% on his deal, they're definitely getting at least 2 2nds in value back for him. Petry at $2.3 million is a hell of a value.

this ^ montreal will absolutely retain another 25% on his salary to move him