Confirmed with Link: Jeff Carter signs two-year extension with Penguins

[Scandale du Jour]

8m x 4 years for G & Letang
5 x 4 for Rust
4.2 x 5 for KK

Rust will get at least 6.5 on the open market. He is not signing for 5.

 

[dogthateats]

Do they still do that thing where they pass around a hat to all the season ticket holders to get their advice on what moves the team should do?

 

[Harvey Birdman]

Even if he falls utterly off the age cliff it’s 3.125m. It’s not at all a cap restrictive contract. I like it. When you do veteran deals this is what you like them to look like.

 

[Honour Over Glory]

I'm actually ok with this. But also, wtf does this mean for Blueger and his role on this team?

 

[wgknestrick]

The link you literally posted says he's an above average player

That will be worse next year and the year after

 

[Turin]

The Pens very much need to let someone else overpay for ERod's 45-day (or whatever it was) anomalous hot streak. By the time the important players are signed, there's not going to be much left over for him or Dime-A-Dozen Danton Heinen anyway.

I would probably rather slightly overpay for Erod than give Rust star caliber money

 

[Turin]

That will be worse next year and the year after

No guarantee that’s the case

 

[Empoleon8771]

That will be worse next year and the year after

So he's worth $5 million now, will be worth $4 million next year and will be worth $3 million the year after.

Seems pretty fine to me.

 

[Ugene Magic]

I'm actually ok with this. But also, wtf does this mean for Blueger and his role on this team?

Nothing. Nothing has changed.

 

[Peat]

The fact he is getting significantly outscored on the ice this year?

Where's the link there though? Getting scored on more heavily than his defensive totals say he should could just as easily be bad luck as not caring. I can't remember anyone accusing him of being able to coast until this point either.

The deal could go south, but it feels like you're reaching here.

 

[vodeni]

I wonder how quickly everyone turns on this contract next year when Carter goes LA coast mode.

already on it

 

[Gurglesons]

Where's the link there though? Getting scored on more heavily than his defensive totals say he should could just as easily be bad luck as not caring. I can't remember anyone accusing him of being able to coast until this point either.

The deal could go south, but it feels like you're reaching here.

I just don’t get the deal or the immediacy for it. The term or the NMC.

Whatever. Three million dollar deals for over 30 year olds never burn teams.

 

[pistolpete11]

I'm actually ok with this. But also, wtf does this mean for Blueger and his role on this team?

I imagine with 3 mid-to-late 30 year olds in front of him, they could reduce their minutes some and give them to Teddy.

 

[Peat]

Also on the valuation thing.

There's currently 11 centres making between 3.25m and 2.75m. Most signed as RFAs or UFAs handing out hometown discounts. The three median point producers there are Pius Suter, Scott Laughton, and Dylan Strome. They're pacing between .45 ppg and .41 ppg. They are, for what it's worth, all minus players. I'm not saying that's all Carter has to do to be worth his cap hit, but it's a useful guide to what 3m gets you in a C.

 

[Pens1566]

I'm not sure what there is to complain about with that kind of deal for your 3C that performs like he has ...

 

[Peat]

I just don’t get the deal or the immediacy for it. The term or the NMC.

Whatever. Three million dollar deals for over 30 year olds never burn teams.

I mean, I'm not thrilled about it. You're not wrong about deals like this often being mistakes. I'd have rather waited to the end of the season and done one year. I'm not sure I wouldn't have preferred ERod as 3C either.

But the deal is cheap to fair for what he currently is and he's shown no sign of being inclined to coast here. I daresay he showed none in LA before he did as well, but it hasn't happened. The risk is real enough that it doesn't need gilded. And, tbf, the potential reward is there as well.

 

[OtherThingsILike]

Very good. Now do Malkin and Letang.

 

[Crosbyfan]

Couldn't you just root for someone else? Like the Khmer Rouge?

Ouch!

 

[Le Magnifique 66]

Good signing, Carter has been amazing since being acquired. Good guy and veteran to have around

 

[Tender Rip]

OK

Unexpected timing perhaps, but hard not to approve. You dont like the NMC much, but it’s understandable.

Wonder how it plays with Geno and Letang. “See, JC took a 40% pay cut to stay with the gang.”

 

[bathroomSTAAL]

I think it says good things about the organization that such a well-respected, well-liked guy as Carter left a great comfy situation in LA and immediately decided he wanted to play a couple more years and presumably retire here.

 

[DesertedPenguin]

The fact he is getting significantly outscored on the ice this year?

Brock McGinn and Teddy Blueger have worse Corsi For % and worse Scoring Changes For %. Does that mean their games are going to crater, too?

 

[Nakawick]

Rust and especially Rodrigues are going to take the best deal they can get Imo and will be overpaid and over termed. Carter on a cheap deal can play as a rs center or a winger.

 

[PensandCaps]

Not sure i like this, when Rust, Erod, Letang and Malkin are unsigned.

 

[Dipsy Doodle]

Also on the valuation thing.

There's currently 11 centres making between 3.25m and 2.75m. Most signed as RFAs or UFAs handing out hometown discounts. The three median point producers there are Pius Suter, Scott Laughton, and Dylan Strome. They're pacing between .45 ppg and .41 ppg. They are, for what it's worth, all minus players. I'm not saying that's all Carter has to do to be worth his cap hit, but it's a useful guide to what 3m gets you in a C.

Thanks for the breakdown. Confirms my first thought on this - we're not getting a better 3C than Carter in FA for that kind of money.

He brings a lot that we've lacked in a 3C since Bonino left, and a couple things we've lacked since Staal. Because of his size and smarts, I think he'll age gracefully. At the end of this deal, Carter will be the same age Cullen was when he first came to Pittsburgh.

And it's only 2 years. Pretty much ideal term and cap hit, realistically.