Player Discussion Thomas Chabot (D) Part 2

[JD1]

1. Definitely, having an actual partnet rather than a grocery stick was all he ever needed
2. He's playing more minutes this season compared to last, and that's with a 1 minute less of PP and 2.5 minutes of SH time extra
3. He's getting harder icetime this season compared to last

The only thing different this season compared to last is coach and partner. He's played well with every single capable partner he's had, we just decided to saddle him with the Zaitsev/Hamonic/Hainsey's of the league

I disagree with that.

I'm obviously not an nhl hockey player buy I've played D for over 50 years, some of it at a pretty decent level. Sometimes you need to anchor a pair but a lot of his issues had nothing to do with carrying a partner.

Thomas Chabot is playing better this year. He's playing more seconds this year than last. 8 seconds more per game. That's not really measurable more. But he is playing harder minutes with pk up and pp down.

But putting the blame on the last couple of years on other players is simply not accurate. I've sat in that building and watched him do shit that was just plain f***ing bone head stupid. Things that had nothing to do with a partner.

I actually think he was read the riot act over the offseason. As in "you either up the level of your defensive game or we are simply going to get rid of you for a bag of pucks"

Chabot himself has talked about the need to play better defensively as a team and him as a leader having to step in. He's better because he's committed to being better.

I also think that him losing his pp qb1 role was an eye opener. An awakening that he's not the top dog. If you're making his money and not on pp1, you better have a lot of game elsewhere and I suspect he realized that and it's translated in his play.

I'm happy he's raised his play. I think Chabot needs to own his poor play of the past few years and he has stepped up and done so imo.

 

[Xspyrit]

For people who played the game, it is also known that a D-man will struggle in a non-working system where forwards don't give you good breakout options. If you don't see the play right away, you might just "cough it up"

It works like this at lower competitive levels, now imagine at NHL's pace

Another thing that I have noticed is that people might not know that Chabot was having an elite season in 2021-22 before being shut down with injury. He struggled for 2 seasons after that (while still producing) but look at Norris the last 2 years, look at Bobby Ryan or Milan Michalek before (and so many others). Hockey is a very athletic sport and injuries are going to affect your performance level big time.

I wonder to what extent Chabot's improved ES play is due to:
1. playing with Jensen rather than ????.
2. playing fewer minutes per game.
3. playing lower quality of competition (e.g., second line fowards instead of first line players) due to Sanderson and Zub playing higher QoC.
4. ?????.

1. Being healthy (well, relatively to 2022-23 and 2023-24)
2. Playing for NHL coaching
3. Stabilizing partner instead of a revolving door of mediocrity

Rest

For what his cap hit is, definitely worth trading in the offseason

Trade Chabot to do what? Sign more Perrons and Amadios?

I'd keep the impact player.

 

[HSF]

For what his cap hit is, definitely worth trading in the offseason

yuck no thanks

cups are one by having great players. Not wasting cap on perron

 

[Volt]

yuck no thanks

cups are one by having great players. Not wasting cap on perron

Perron ain't worth it either