deadhead
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And he'll love Babcock, a humble, player's coach.
Confirmed with Link: Ivan Provorov traded to CBJ (via LA) - 1st, 2 2nds, Petersen, Walker, Grans to Philly
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Beef Invictus
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have a degree in NHL coach psychiatry ?
DEFENSE wins Championships.....what Columbus is doing with their defense is interesting
Scoring wins championships. Every single team that has ever won has done so by outscoring their opposition. Endlessly focusing on defense and treating offense as an afterthought at best in all things like Tortorella does ensures you don't score enough to win. Probably why Tortorella hasn't won shit in 20 years. It's also why a vastly more organized system didn't produce any better results.
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I have to think they will try to move Gudbranson. They already have Peeke, Boqvist, Jiricek on the right and just added a lot of salary to their defense. Gudbranson and his 3 years, $4 million cap hit is ugly.
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deadhead
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Which is why Gudbranson as part of a Hayes deal was always an option, Gudbranson and Roslovic and a pick, then the Flyers flip Gubranson with money retained and Roslovic now or at the TDL. CBJ gets the center for JG and no net cap hit this year.
the "point" IS .....keep the other guys off the scoreboard as much as possible and then just out score them .....really not that complex
rather watch a 3 - 2 game with hitting, checking and good goaltending.....
then a 10 - 9 game(almost like a scrimmage).....I'd be bored to death
Beef Invictus
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the "point" IS .....keep the other guys off the scoreboard as much as possible and then just out score them .....really not that complex
rather watch a 3 - 2 game with hitting, checking and good goaltending.....
then a 10 - 9 game(almost like a scrimmage).....I'd be bored to death
It is that complex. If it wasn't that complex then Tortorella would have been more successful, since that's his whole strategy. It isn't 2003 anymore. 2003 isn't coming back.
Keeping the opponent off the board alone isn't enough. And on that front, the best way to do that is to have the puck and drive offense.
exactly.....I suggest the correct definition is TRANSITION .....
which starts with defense
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Capitalizing on it requires more than the ultra-safe mindsets of Tortorella. He has no plan beyond defending. And that plan isn't even good.
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The frustrating thing right now is this trade happened so early, it's easy to forget that things tend to heat up between the end of the SC and the draft.
Though the Stevenson deal suggests that teams are ready to jump if the opportunity is there.
Would like to pick up a couple more picks in this draft, to go with (2) 1sts and (2) 2nds next year, that would jump start the rebuild.
Though the Stevenson deal suggests that teams are ready to jump if the opportunity is there.
Would like to pick up a couple more picks in this draft, to go with (2) 1sts and (2) 2nds next year, that would jump start the rebuild.
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No there is nothing frustrating about being ahead of the market.
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There’s still three days before the deadline
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That's a bit disingenuous. There have been teams that have focused heavily on defense and won cups. Even fourth liners score with elevated ice time and you can pack a team soley with defensive forwards and still win.
You can't win with all out offense and terrible defenseman. See Edmonton.
Nizzle
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I’d say Edmonton does not have enough depth to be called a team with all out offense. Their defensemen suck too, of course.
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How is it disingenuous to state the simple reality that you must score to win?
The problem with Edmonton is a lack of depth. Not their style.
What teams gave focused on defense more than scoring (to the point of practically scoffing at offense) in the current era of hockey and won?
As the fan of a team that signed Couturier for almost $8MM until he is on Soc Sec, Sanhiem at almost $7MM for close to forever, Hayes $7+MM, JVR $7 MM, Nicky D for anything over a dollar (and for almost half a decade), and traded for Ellis with his bloated contract, I will never criticize another team's signings.....
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It says something if the most important trait in a defenseman nowadays is puck moving rather than actual defense.
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Well, exiting the D-zone is an important part of defense, since it breaks the cycle and forces the other team to re-enter even if it doesn't lead to flipping the ice.
Ghosts Beer
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In the 18 seasons since the lockout of 04/05, including this season:
The highest scoring regular season team has won the Cup twice:
TB in 19/20 & PIT in 16/17.
The team with the least goals allowed in the regular season has won once:
DET in 07/08.
The team with the largest regular season goal differential has won twice:
CHI in 12/13 & DET in 07/08.
There’s no magic formula here, but to claim so assertively that offense is how you win the Cup, you’d think the best offensive team in the league each season would show better than 2 Cups in the last 18 seasons.
The highest scoring regular season team has won the Cup twice:
TB in 19/20 & PIT in 16/17.
The team with the least goals allowed in the regular season has won once:
DET in 07/08.
The team with the largest regular season goal differential has won twice:
CHI in 12/13 & DET in 07/08.
There’s no magic formula here, but to claim so assertively that offense is how you win the Cup, you’d think the best offensive team in the league each season would show better than 2 Cups in the last 18 seasons.
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That's a weird list of players considering you left off the most obvious comparable, Risto.
Everyone but Deslauriers on that list has been good or very good at some point in their career. Gudbranson has never been better than a 3rd pairing dman. That's not worth $5m a year with term.
When was the last time a team won the cup with a 100% focus on defense? I can't think of any. Hitch coached Dallas? These still had prime Modano, Nieuwendyk on absolute fire, and Brett Hull. Even the devils teams that ruined the 90s had underrated offensive players.
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kudymen
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Hollywood Cannon
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This reminds me of the time an attempted dunk was made about how I love offensive hockey and that sorrow was expressed towards me because the offensive stalwarts in Toronto, New Jersey, and the Oilers didn’t make the Conference Final.
Now when that dunk was looked at we saw that Toronto and New Jersey were two of the final four teams in the East. They finished with the 4th and 5th best xG/60 in the NHL respectively. Now it got fun when we took a look at the two teams that made the ECF and where they finished… Carolina (3rd) and Florida (1st).
That was fun. It’s a real shame that only two teams make a conference final.
Now when that dunk was looked at we saw that Toronto and New Jersey were two of the final four teams in the East. They finished with the 4th and 5th best xG/60 in the NHL respectively. Now it got fun when we took a look at the two teams that made the ECF and where they finished… Carolina (3rd) and Florida (1st).
That was fun. It’s a real shame that only two teams make a conference final.
