Confirmed with Link: Ivan Provorov traded to CBJ (via LA) - 1st, 2 2nds, Petersen, Walker, Grans to Philly

[Ghosts Beer]

That’s not a little bit true.

Apparently you don’t remember Matt Greene having shoulder surgery, & the Kings acquiring Schenn as a similar-sized physical RHD to help fill the void.

 

[GKJ]

Apparently you don’t remember Matt Greene having shoulder surgery, & the Kings acquiring Schenn as a similar-sized physical RHD to help fill the void.

No, I remember keenly, I am also a Kings fan you know. They did want Schenn, that was no small thing. I was blessed to watch a shot Lecavalier go out there and kill penalties. The idea that that Lombardi took him as a favor to complete the deal is completely false. Just because you do a deal with a franchise you have good connections to doesn’t mean you’re doing people favors, that was a huge risk to take.

He wanted Vinny, as long as he went through on his non-binding commitment to retire. Vinny did not want the indignity to be the first player to be bought out twice. Lombardi bought in on his experience, leadership, and that had a bit more to give than he was allowed to show here. Lombardi lamented that Hextall used his negotiating tactics against him.

To Lombardi’s credit, he was right, he did ok given he had more responsible people to play with and a more credible head coach.

 

[orangey]

This seems like a good start at a rebuilding to me. Not great but solid. Step in the right direction at least. Not bad at all for Danny's first move.

 

[Chicken N Raffls]

This seems like a good start at a rebuilding to me. Not great but solid. Step in the right direction at least. Not bad at all for Danny's first move.

Just keep them coming.

 

[eramosat]

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Just keep them coming.

the bar is low. but this is a very encouraging sign, it's a complex trade that the Flyers look very good on completion.

Trading for Provy is a lot smarter than trading for Ellis, in every respect. But I think the Flyers can be happy with this outcome.

 

[ViD]

It’s not the Flyers problem anymore (fortunately) but is Werenski enough of like an alpha dog defensemen perception wise to get Provorov to accept reality? Columbus got LA involved to get his salary/cap hit down to a second pair pay grade. So it should be interesting to see if conforms there or does he continue to mope around like he did here for years.

We got Babcock to sort it out

 

[Flyerfan4life]

He's said similar stuff before, but basically that Konecny is one of Torts guys, and someone they would like to have around for the rebuild.

imagine being TK. being left stuck on Torts rebuild team

#wastedcareer

 

[ponder719]

We got Babcock to sort it out

I hope for your sake it works, but we saw how well he responded to our prickly asshole coach...

 

[EdmFlyersfan]

The note I got was that he wasn’t able to get in rhythm in Ontario but he also didn’t have a clear path to the NHL since the Kings were overloaded with RHD in their system. Sounds like he needs to get some run in with the Phantoms.

Flyers Prospect Helge Grans Has Size, Talent To Succeed

Helge Grans is the prospect the Flyers received in the Ivan Provorov trade. He’s the player who will be under the most critical gaze. Grans has potential. The Flyers want to see when — and if — he can play in the NHL. He has skills. The 21-year-old Swedish defenseman was drafted 35th overall by […]

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[Ghosts Beer]

No, I remember keenly, I am also a Kings fan you know. They did want Schenn, that was no small thing. I was blessed to watch a shot Lecavalier go out there and kill penalties. The idea that that Lombardi took him as a favor to complete the deal is completely false. Just because you do a deal with a franchise you have good connections to doesn’t mean you’re doing people favors, that was a huge risk to take.

He wanted Vinny, as long as he went through on his non-binding commitment to retire. Vinny did not want the indignity to be the first player to be bought out twice. Lombardi bought in on his experience, leadership, and that had a bit more to give than he was allowed to show here. Lombardi lamented that Hextall used his negotiating tactics against him.

To Lombardi’s credit, he was right, he did ok given he had more responsible people to play with and a more credible head coach.

Well if you remember so keenly don’t tell me what I said “isn’t a little bit true.”

That trade was about Schenn giving them RH physical D depth due to Greene’s absence.

Lecavalier was a tacked on favor.

 

[Starat327]

No, I remember keenly, I am also a Kings fan you know. They did want Schenn, that was no small thing. I was blessed to watch a shot Lecavalier go out there and kill penalties. The idea that that Lombardi took him as a favor to complete the deal is completely false. Just because you do a deal with a franchise you have good connections to doesn’t mean you’re doing people favors, that was a huge risk to take.

He wanted Vinny, as long as he went through on his non-binding commitment to retire. Vinny did not want the indignity to be the first player to be bought out twice. Lombardi bought in on his experience, leadership, and that had a bit more to give than he was allowed to show here. Lombardi lamented that Hextall used his negotiating tactics against him.

To Lombardi’s credit, he was right, he did ok given he had more responsible people to play with and a more credible head coach.

Re; the bolded -- Chuck Fletcher would like a word.

 

[mr4tno]

imagine being TK. being left stuck on Torts rebuild team

#wastedcareer

TK is very tradable. Imagine being Couturier.......

 

[GKJ]

Well if you remember so keenly don’t tell me what I said “isn’t a little bit true.”

That trade was about Schenn giving them RH physical D depth due to Greene’s absence.

Lecavalier was a tacked on favor.

Because what you said wasn’t true.

 

[Ghosts Beer]

Because what you said wasn’t true.

You said “not a little bit true” & then admitted yourself the Kings wanted Schenn, so stop.

 

[GKJ]

You said “not a little bit true” & then admitted yourself the Kings wanted Schenn, so stop.

You acting like Lecavalier isn’t who we’re talking about

 

[Cootsfanclub]

This idiot is wrong about literally every single topic

I don’t know how he manages to be this consistent

I hate this kinda stuff. Almost exactly what they said about Dougie Hamilton when he left Boston.

 

[Beef Invictus]

Well if you remember so keenly don’t tell me what I said “isn’t a little bit true.”

That trade was about Schenn giving them RH physical D depth due to Greene’s absence.

Lecavalier was a tacked on favor.

They actually played that "tacked on favor." So he was more than that.

 

[Starat327]

Nothing good comes out of walking into a thread and seeing a bunch of mods arguing with themselves.

 

[Columbus Hockey Dad]

Nothing good comes out of walking into a thread and seeing a bunch of mods arguing with themselves.

I mean, who cares about the minute trade details from over 10 years ago???...lol

 

[Starat327]

I mean, who cares about the minute trade details from over 10 years ago???...lol

People who can't stand, and can't admit being wrong.

 

[Curufinwe]

Off the top of my head, Hextall trading Coburn for Gudas, 1st (Konecny), & 3rd in 2015 was better.

This trade is certainly better than any made by Fletcher though.

That trade was better because of the scorching hot takes about how Gudas was a #7 at best.

Radko then spent the next four years as a Flyer averaging 18:32 per game (16:09 at ES), chipping in 73 points in 290 games and leading the defense in plus minus at +11. His advanced stats were good, too.

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I don't think LA traded for MacEwen to play him on the 2nd line, either.

They didn't play him at all. Cause he's useless.

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One playoff game out of six. 6:44 total TOI.

 

[Rebels57]

I hate this kinda stuff. Almost exactly what they said about Dougie Hamilton when he left Boston.

This stuff about Provorov has been said for the past 2 years at least.

 

[Tripod]

That trade was better because of the scorching hot takes about how Gudas was a #7 at best.

Radko then spent the next four years as a Flyer averaging 18:32 per game (16:09 at ES), chipping in 73 points in 290 games and leading the defense in plus minus at +11. His advanced stats were good, too.

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They didn't play him at all. Cause he's useless.

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One playoff game out of six. 6:44 total TOI.

How sad is it that we have LOTS of Flyer's employees and TONS of fans, who would take him back in a heartbeat.

 

[Ghosts Beer]

You acting like Lecavalier isn’t who we’re talking about

You’re acting like my post that you first replied to and claimed “isn’t a little bit true” didn’t say the Lecavalier trade “was more about LA getting Luke Schenn.”

 

[BrindamoursNose]

Fletcher’s best trade was the one that worked out the worst. That’s just how it goes sometimes.

Fletcher's best trade was probably the Giroux trade - even though I hate his guts for so much pertaining to it, but that's the only trade I don't think we just lost...okay well Niskanen for Gudas was a push, but he retired right away so I'm calling it a meh.