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I don’t really actively hate any of the jerseys the team has worn during its existence (I have every home, away, and alternate jersey they’ve ever worn hanging on my wall). But I do have ones I like more than the others.

EDIT: For example, I think the Canucks should totally wear the Flying V once a year on Halloween. Lean into our interesting history and have some fun with it.

That I would sign-up for. I'm all for using old stuff on special occasions and celebrating the past.
 
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I don’t really actively hate any of the jerseys the team has worn during its existence (I have every home, away, and alternate jersey they’ve ever worn hanging on my wall). But I do have ones I like more than the others.

EDIT: For example, I think the Canucks should totally wear the Flying V once a year on Halloween. Lean into our interesting history and have some fun with it.

100%.

Also hopefully they will do a 50th anniversary thing with it in 2028, and that would also tie in with the 50th anniversary of Smyl/Gradin's debuts.

The only uniforms I really don't like are the 97-07 blue/red orca unis. It's just not my team's colours, not a logo that means anything, and I have zero emotional connection to it at all. When I watch old highlights it actually takes me a bit to process that I'm watching the Vancouver Canucks.
 
We're going to need another monster performance from Demko. This will also be a big test for Hughes and Hronek. If they're on their game they should blunt Vegas' possession game when they're on the ice. If they can't beat the forecheck we're done.
 
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I do not think this game is a matter of Energy Level. I think it is almost entirely a matter of confidence. When the Canucks were on that early streak, albeit more against weaker teams, they were skating, passing, and playmaking with absolute confidence and they slaughtered several opponents. A few games have certainly had problems with combined effort, but I am just saying I think confidence is a bigger factor. And, with a few players sick and injured you could really see how it affected the team overall performance.


Making money the old fashioned way, gambling. Ready for a poker game?
Yep, and we have a couple of new players. Only played with them once, (husband and wife) but we had a good game, and they made money. I lost money for the first time in a while. We mostly played Omaha hi-lo all night. As usual, it was only $200 - 300 for the winners and losers, and most were under $100.

Edit - speaking of jerseys, I always go to games wearing my dad's 80th birthday sweater he got in 2003, the year before he died.

Enough, time to go play geezer hockey.
 
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as a middle millennial child who was 11 years old during the peak of the WCE, my visual reference from that era of franchise history is the gradient jersey lol

ha, same. but that doesn't mean it should be brought back just to appeal to our demographic. similarly, not surprised that guys in their 40s love the (ugly!!!!) jersey of their childhood! :D

another jersey thought - a couple retro theme nights would be fun, especially if they were original throwbacks. but really hope they don't do the nba thing (one of the few things the nba has done horribly in comparison to the nhl) where they pump out a different version of a theme (city jerseys, etc.) every single year and water down the meaning of the team's look altogether.
 
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I mean, nostalgia is a big part of the 'feels' of a uniform. There's nothing special about any of the 06 logos but the history gives them a ton of extra cache. And the fact that Bure and Linden and Lumme and Gino wore those unis while they were kicking ass, and that those unis made them look badass as hell while doing it matters to me.

To me, 'trying to incorporate local flavour into the logo/colours' is how you get some some sort of marketing firm generic nothing meaningless logo which to me is what the Orca is. And the history of that logo is John McCaw and 'a phone call can move this team' and Mark Messier and Mike Keenan and it simply does not give me good feels at all. And, again, it's just a whale badly drawn over a Flames/Bears/Reds logo. At least the Skate is something original/different/easily recognizable.

I think in terms of 'clean look' and pleasing the most people the original uniforms are still easily the best. And I'd be so happy just to go back to the 70-71 uniforms and call it a day.

But I also think the last iteration of the skate looked really good and was a cool, mean-looking uniform and I love whenever the get brought out. And to me there's a blue-collar, 'proud of our team, proud of our uniforms even if people don't like them' thing that's tied up in them that I can't really articulate as well as I'd like to. They *meant something* to people at the time, more than that stupid whale will even if it's there for 100 years.

I also love the 77-84 Flying V no-logo uniforms but I know I'm on an island with that.
Nothing special is too extreme. I don't think they can't be touched by non-original 6 teams or anything, but at least two or three of them are legitimately immaculately designed and perfectly considered. I didn't grow up with any more nostalgia for those teams than I did the freaken Minnesota Wild, but it's hard to beat that Red Wings and Bruins logo/jersey combination, and the Canadiens one is really rock solid as well.

I do personally find the Rangers logo/colors really ugly and overrated, though.

Also, while I wouldn't go as far as to say that I like the no-logo V uniforms, I find them a lot less objectionable than the Skate or Orca, personally.
 
Nothing special is too extreme. I don't think they can't be touched by non-original 6 teams or anything, but at least two or three of them are legitimately immaculately designed and perfectly considered. I didn't grow up with any more nostalgia for those teams than I did the freaken Minnesota Wild, but it's hard to beat that Red Wings and Bruins logo/jersey combination, and the Canadiens one is really rock solid as well.

I do personally find the Rangers logo/colors really ugly and overrated, though.

Detroit and Boston's are terrific, yeah.

The rest? Nah. Montreal's is literally as boring as it gets but there is 100+ years of history attached to it that give it a much deeper meaning.
 
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Detroit and Boston's are terrific, yeah.

The rest? Nah. Montreal's is literally as boring as it gets but there is 100+ years of history attached to it that give it a much deeper meaning.
Happy to disagree on that, but Detroit and Boston's alone being terrific should be enough to prevent that statement from being fair, in my view.
 
with the skate jerseys, i actually have very very different relationships to it depending on the colours

the black one, yes i do associate it with the post-courtnall/ronning trade up to the ’94 run, but i also associate it with the earlier dan quinn, jim sandlak, early disastrous years of larionov/krutov, paul reinhart era. because i started watching in ’89 and that was our jersey then.

but our home jerseys at that time were the skate logo on yellow.

so here’s kirk mclean’s home and away during the season we pushed the ’89 flames to seven games:

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props for the ugly yellow helmet whose background he later painted white.

whereas the white home skate jerseys, that’s what i associate with the golden era of pat quinn.

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iirc, the home whites were new in the 1989-‘90 season. so that’s a year earlier than when we traded dan quinn and garth butcher at the deadline for courtnall, ronning, big mo, and robert dirk. the real beginning of the pat quinn golden age was 1990-’91, with the big trade, but also the first year of linden as full captain, the first full year of lumme (he was a 1990 deadline acquisition), gino’s rookie season, and the year we got diduck and murzyn to fill out our D. but because the black skate jersey preceded my fandom, it was really the home whites that felt to me like the dawn of a new era. (for those keeping score at home, bure came over in the fall of 1991 and then absolutely everything changed.)

all to say, if you want to hit my nostalgia bone, it’s gotta be those white skate jerseys. the black ones just look weird and out of time to me.

but to maybe put those admittedly ugly skate jesreys in context, i think you have to remember late 1980s cyberpunk. forgive my armchair cultural criticism here but after the popularity of blade runner, we had like tekwar and ridley scott and the first terminator all the way up to johnny mnemonic in the mid-90s. i don’t think it’s a coincidence that versace made that canucks sweater right around the time of the late 2010s blade runner revival.
 
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I don’t really actively hate any of the jerseys the team has worn during its existence (I have every home, away, and alternate jersey they’ve ever worn hanging on my wall). But I do have ones I like more than the others.

EDIT: For example, I think the Canucks should totally wear the Flying V once a year on Halloween. Lean into our interesting history and have some fun with it.
I think the flying V with blue and green would be hideously awesome. The wordmark years were the worst jerseys ever
 
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with the skate jerseys, i actually have very very different relationships to it depending on the colours

the black one, yes i do associate it with the post-courtnall/ronning trade up to the ’94 run, but i also associate it with the earlier dan quinn, troy gamble, early disastrous years of larionov/krutov, paul reinhart era. because i started watching in ’89 and that was our jersey then.

but our home jerseys at that time were the skate logo on yellow.

so here’s kirk mclean’s home and away during the season we pushed the ’89 flames to seven games:

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props for the ugly yellow helmet whose background he later painted white.

whereas the white home skate jerseys, that’s what i associate with the golden era of pat quinn.

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iirc, the home whites were new in the 1989-‘90 season. so that’s a year earlier than when we traded dan quinn and garth butcher at the deadline for courtnall, ronning, big mo, and robert dirk. the real beginning of the pat quinn golden age was 1990-’91, with the big trade, but also the first year of linden as full captain, the first full year of lumme (he was a 1990 deadline acquisition), gino’s rookie season, and the year we got diduck and murzyn to fill out our D. but because the black skate jersey preceded my fandom, it was really the home whites that felt to me like the dawn of a new era. (for those keeping score at home, bure came over in the fall of 1991 and then absolutely everything changed.)

all to say, if you want to hit my nostalgia bone, it’s gotta be those white skate jerseys. the black ones just look weird and out of time to me.

but to maybe put those admittedly ugly skate jesreys in context, i think you have to remember late 1980s cyberpunk. forgive my armchair cultural criticism here but after the popularity of blade runner, we had like tekwar and ridley scott and the first terminator all the way up to johnny mnemonic in the mid-90s. i don’t think it’s a coincidence that versace made that canucks sweater right around the time of the late 2010s blade runner revival.

To me the 85-89 uniforms were actually legitimately ugly, and the black road unis are tangibly different from the 1990s versions. The striping is different, the shades of yellow/orange are different, and it ... just doesn't work. And the yellow homes are just ick. They're taking the 78-85 uniforms and removing everything that was special and weird about them and just leaving the bad elements.

I love the '90s home whites as well. Great uniforms.
 
The only uniforms I really don't like are the 97-07 blue/red orca unis. It's just not my team's colours, not a logo that means anything, and I have zero emotional connection to it at all. When I watch old highlights it actually takes me a bit to process that I'm watching the Vancouver Canucks.

I hate that era, cause I am perpetually reminded of the following: Messier, Keenan, post-season failures, Dan Cloutier, Bertuzzi/Moore, Brad May, etc...

The WCE was great, but that era was totally pathetic in many respects and I just see misery in those jerseys. Thankfully this franchise began transitioning to the green/blue scheme by the 07 Playoffs.

I was at that game. So good.

Although the highlight was the uproariously drunk fellow next to us yelling “COME ON, TERBUZZI, SCORE A GOAL!”
There were a few notorious drunks from that era. It was downright intimidating being a young teen and situated in the upper bowl.
 
Two powerhouse teams going head to head. Neither playing at the top of their game. Could be a scrambly affair tonight.

Lol, I called the Canucks a powerhouse!
 
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I have a weird brain that just doesn't react to nostalgia the same way most people do. When something is trying to cater to the past, I look at it negatively. Nostalgia is a dirty word to me.
I 100% agree. It's always been a major pet peeve of mine.

Personally, I have nothing but pure disdain and disgust for the entire concept of nostalgia and the effect that it has on people, primarily because I find that it only unnecessarily muddies perception and gives present-day people ammunition to dismiss/disregard the specific old things that are ACTUALLY legitimately great and that withstand the test of time, without nostalgia having anything to do with it. I find that incredibly unfortunate and annoying.

Hell, even a lot of the things that I feel has true substance but a lot of nostalgia attached to them in general end up giving people the wrong impression of what actually makes them good (they end up only focusing on the superficial things about them that they liked as a kid), and that can result in future decisions that ruin them.

Beyond that, it's just a bad form of irrationality-- The LAST thing I would want is for the same crappy tastes and sensibilities that I happened to have as a child to dictate how I still feel about things today.

Don't get me wrong, I can be susceptible to it at times as well, but it's so incredibly overvalued and overstated. It's the easiest thing in the world to recognize your own nostalgia and snuff it out immediately, with all the reason in the world to do so as early as possible, IMO (I'd want to nip it at the bud in the same way I would other irrational and ultimately negatively influencing feelings like jealousy/rage, in my view).

This would actually be the perfect sentiment for the unpopular opinion thread, if it weren't mostly non-hockey-related.
 
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Biggest game of the year so far--with first place in the West on the line. When was the last time that was the storyline involving the Vancouver Canucks?

Really hope the Canucks have recovered their energy level--it's the only way they beat this big, fast Vegas team. But Demko always seems to play lights-out against them--and they're probably going to need that kind of goaltending again.

The key to tonight's game will be the PP. Vegas will take some over-aggressive penalties. Canucks need to make them pay.
Standing up at bueline and fast sticks on forecheck

Hold the blue line
 
The green TD logo on the black skate jersey is hideous and destroys the aesthetic completely. Moronic and completely killed the hype.
 
Anytime Demko plays Vegas I’m always reminded of how legendary he was against them for 3 games in the bubble
God, that run had so many good moments. Tanev series winner, Horvat dismantling the Blues, Lotto line torching teams, bubble Demko, Tyler Minors taking 30 minor penalties, JT Miller pre-game line up read…
 
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