Post-Game Talk: GAME 2 - BRUINS 3 Nashville 2 - We're on to California

[JCRO]

They will, but if the 63-13-74 line is going to get shutdown or be essentially a net zero when it comes to 5v5 offensive impact then it puts more pressure on lines 2 & 3 to pick up the slack. It's only two games, but Coyle is getting absolutely caved in on faceoffs at 43% and he leds are team in draws taken.

I mean it’s been discussed in previous seasons here. “The Coyle effect” if you will. 5 on 5 production for a lot of his line mates sort of dissipates. Seems to take certain players to see success with him. And matchups. This was my big concern with him playing in the top 6.

We’re only two games in but I still would like to see him and Potsy swap for some games during this 10 game trial period. Let Coyle play with Freddy and Geekie and shutdown top lines while occasionally contributing. Marchy-Potsy-JDB get some favorable matchups/offensive zone starts.

 

[Fair Warning]

Think the weakest link so far this season is Lauko. -3 on the season so far. Not ready to write him off completely but perhaps a look at Heinen as 12th F wouldn’t hurt.

 

[Alicat]

Did I watch the game what an insulting comment No I got up this morning and decided to say so far I am not sure how I feel about Shattenkirk's game. Like Really. I could be more specific on the aspects of Shattenkirk's game that have been weak, but apparently , I do not watch the games

Feel free to elaborate then. If you're going to say a player sucks you need to actually say why or you'll be responded to accordingly.

 

[Kate08]

JVR could score the game winner in Game 7 of the Cup Finals and I’d still complain about his mouthguard.

Minus that, so far so good.

 

[JCRO]

Think the weakest link so far this season is Lauko. -3 on the season so far. Not ready to write him off completely but perhaps a look at Heinen as 12th F wouldn’t hurt.

Im not sure how you point to Lauko specifically. I think that entire line, while effective at applying pressure, needs to keep the puck out of their own net.

Lauko, albeit a few penalty calls, is the first one I notice getting back and helping get the puck out. His speed is an Xfactor IMO.

 

[KillerMillerTime]

I don’t think he’s ever been renowned in his own end. One thing I have noticed is he doesn’t screw around pinning pucks to walls (kinda like Carlo does).

Once it is on his stick he’s looking to go north. Different mentality than most of their other dmen.

He’s probably their best passer back there on pure talent. That first game he all in one motioned a chest high saucer across the ozone blue line in the tape of whoever it was.

When he did that my first thought was he’s the only guy on the team that would even try that let alone succeed at it.

Different player for sure. It’ll be interesting to see how they use him.

That's fair enough, though I still take #73 passing ability.

 

[Alicat]

JVR could score the game winner in Game 7 of the Cup Finals and I’d still complain about his mouthguard.

Minus that, so far so good.

It is disgusting and the green makes it so much worse.

 

[Beesfan]

Watched Shattenkirk in person a lot with Rags. Only 2 games, but he's keeping it simple here and much better than the trainwreck at MSG.

Beecher . . .not so sure he's going to stick there or stay healthy, but Monty has him out there in last minute of the game so what do I know.

Potsy . . . i think mngt is still considering him going back. He's going to take a beating in the NHL, despite incredible vision on the ice.

Team truly needs a 1C so other Centers can slot into their rightful places.

If Poitras continues playing like this they can't send him down. He is an integral part of these two wins. Hard to imagine the third line without him and I shudder to think if a top 6 c goes down and he isn't here.

This team is winning but by razor thin margins. We need all our impact players.

 

[KillerMillerTime]

Watched Shattenkirk in person a lot with Rags. Only 2 games, but he's keeping it simple here and much better than the trainwreck at MSG.

Beecher . . .not so sure he's going to stick there or stay healthy, but Monty has him out there in last minute of the game so what do I know.

Potsy . . . i think mngt is still considering him going back. He's going to take a beating in the NHL, despite incredible vision on the ice.

Team truly needs a 1C so other Centers can slot into their rightful places.

I don't think Poitras issue is size related. I think Mtg will watch his compete level between now and G9. If it remains at this level they will keep him. There are several players significantly smaller than #51, like DeBrincat and Caufield.

 

[bme44]

Feel free to elaborate then. If you're going to say a player sucks you need to actually say why or you'll be responded to accordingly.

If simply say he seemed weak in his puck battles and I was not impressed with his play is his own zone. If you read my post I did not say he sucked . I said I am not sure how I feel about his game after two will have a far better idea after 20. Having any D-man that is sheltered and really not used on the PK . puts a lot of work on those that are expected to carry that load. Last night was a perfect example of that. Look at the time Carlo spent killing penalties , these are the toughest minuites for any player

 

[sarge88]

I went to NTDP v BU game

Haven’t watched game yet

How was Poitras

Poised beyond his years.

Aside from the generational guys and a select few others, I think he’s as patient as any teenager I’ve seen play in the NHL.

At least to me, thus far, I don’t think I’ve seen him make a bad decision with the puck. A couple of passes weren’t executed well, but the idea was the right one.

 

[Bruinator]

That was hall of fame bad refereeing. No call when Poitras was tripped and they missed another one late.

On Debrusk with 3 minutes. Pretty clear they knew that would pretty much end the game but it was as clear a trip as you will ever see.

Also thought Forbort was good tonight. He saved a goal when he fished the puck out when it almost went into the net.

Was that the one where Poitras fished one off the line or was there another one?

 

[Alicat]

If simply say he seemed weak in his puck battles and I was not impressed with his play is his own zone. If you read my post I did not say he sucked . I said I am not sure how I feel about his game after two will have a far better idea after 20. Having any D-man that is sheltered and really not used on the PK . puts a lot of work on those that are expected to carry that load. Last night was a perfect example of that. Look at the time Carlo spent killing penalties , these are the toughest minuites for any player

You're nitpicking after 2 games where one of them was nothing but a parade to the box. He and Forbert are going to need some time to gel and it is well know that our 3rd D pair was going to be shaky off the hop. It comes across as your expectations of him maybe were a little too high based on how he's played throughout his career. We agree that we need to wait for 20 games to see how his role shakes out.

Last night is not a good comparison TOI wise especially with Carlo b/c he doesn't kill penalties. He played 2:13 on the PP last night and the Bruins only roll 3 D total. Bruins rolled their top 4 D hard last night. He had 17:33 TOI opening night with 2:45 on the PP which is what I am expecting him to be at most nights.

Shattenkirk is what he is and he makes the team better on and off the ice.

I am looking forward to the CA swing to see how he does against his old team and teams he played regularly.

 

[Healthy Wrap]

The 4th line scares me and not in a good way. They’ve allowed far too many odd-man rushes. Looch has been a pleasant surprise thus far (he still has great hands/vision) but his skating can be a liability. I’d like to see better awareness from Beecher and Lauko. Can’t be caught up ice and expect Looch to be able to backcheck. It’s a recipe for disaster.

 

[Blowfish]

Think the weakest link so far this season is Lauko. -3 on the season so far. Not ready to write him off completely but perhaps a look at Heinen as 12th F wouldn’t hurt.

LAuko has come so close to potting a few beauties...Not sure the -3 is all on him.

 

[Alicat]

LAuko has come so close to potting a few beauties...Not sure the -3 is all on him.

It certainly isn't. I tend to ignore stats for the first 5-6 games which is why you won't see them in the GDT.

On the 2nd Sissons goal that line looked rough. That said, they never seem to have bad back to back bad shifts. 2 games in and I like what I see and they have a few days to watch video and work on details and chemistry.

The penalty parade hurt them. They need to stay in a rhythm and when they aren't, it looks ugly.

It can only improve from here.

 

[Blowfish]

It is disgusting and the green makes it so much worse.

Ladyfan & GRR...anything you can do about this (from the stands)?

 

[Blowfish]

BTW Nashville is a good team. It was a good win against a talented team/excellent goaltender.

What's up with 29 year old Sissons? Has 3 goals on the season and looked dangerous out there.

 

[DKH]

The 4th line scares me and not in a good way. They’ve allowed far too many odd-man rushes. Looch has been a pleasant surprise thus far (he still has great hands/vision) but his skating can be a liability. I’d like to see better awareness from Beecher and Lauko. Can’t be caught up ice and expect Looch to be able to backcheck. It’s a recipe for disaster.

I just watched first period - Lucic was good

Poitras and third line very good - I read where Poitras was meh and out muscled so probably in second or third

Pastrnak was excellent - the entire line was - JVR legit player in his day and only 34

Zacha strong period

Jack invented a few new words

 

[PlayMakers]

I’d rather bury Frederic and Geekie with defensive zone matchups than DeBrusk and Marchand. It seems inevitable that Coyle and Poitras will end up switching up at some point.

The problem is Marchand is your best defensive winger and Coyle your best defensive center. Monty is going to put them out for critical DZ face offs during the game, and the last minute of a period, and the last 5 of a game. It would be hard to run the bench if they’re on different lines but you have to keep putting them back together at key times all night.

 

[22Brad Park]

I am under no illusion this team is Cup material but they could sneak into playoffs and upset somebody is my thinking.Love for them to prove me wrong though.Anyhow, I see the Oilers are in need of a goalie bigtime so my main wish is they keep struggling in nets & Sweenious can rob them of some talent like Bourgault or MacLeod + .And for those about to pounce relax, I been wrong a million times and cheer Bruins to win every game.

 

[PlayMakers]

Poised beyond his years.

Aside from the generational guys and a select few others, I think he’s as patient as any teenager I’ve seen play in the NHL.

At least to me, thus far, I don’t think I’ve seen him make a bad decision with the puck. A couple of passes weren’t executed well, but the idea was the right one.

Patient and fearless. He’s first on pucks with 220lb defensemen on his back, and then makes a great pass like it’s nothing. Impressive.

 

[PlayMakers]

Kudos to Monty again, this time for trusting Beecher in the last minute of a 1 goal game.

 

[bme44]

You're nitpicking after 2 games where one of them was nothing but a parade to the box. He and Forbert are going to need some time to gel and it is well know that our 3rd D pair was going to be shaky off the hop. It comes across as your expectations of him maybe were a little too high based on how he's played throughout his career. We agree that we need to wait for 20 games to see how his role shakes out.

Last night is not a good comparison TOI wise especially with Carlo b/c he doesn't kill penalties. He played 2:13 on the PP last night and the Bruins only roll 3 D total. Bruins rolled their top 4 D hard last night. He had 17:33 TOI opening night with 2:45 on the PP which is what I am expecting him to be at most nights.

Shattenkirk is what he is and he makes the team better on and off the ice.

I am looking forward to the CA swing to see how he does against his old team and teams he played regularly.

You are correct he is what he is , I was not nitpicking I was simply stating after two games ,I am not overly impressed with his game and if you read my Post I said we will see after 20. I am not sure who you are calling their top 4D??? . But the four that carried the work load were 25,27,28 and 73 . In particular on the PK 25and 28

 

[DKH]

I am under no illusion this team is Cup material but they could sneak into playoffs and upset somebody is my thinking.Love for them to prove me wrong though.Anyhow, I see the Oilers are in need of a goalie bigtime so my main wish is they keep struggling in nets & Sweenious can rob them of some talent like Bourgault or MacLeod + .And for those about to pounce relax, I been wrong a million times and cheer Bruins to win every game.

It’s also mid October last week of February with Bruins sitting 44-8-5 they added Orlov Bert & Hathaway

They are interesting and solid right now