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Pronger is getting his number retired in St. Louis next season.Probably going to be until 21-22 before we see anyone’s number retired anywhere.
Pronger is getting his number retired in St. Louis next season.Probably going to be until 21-22 before we see anyone’s number retired anywhere.
Call it a hunch, but they might hit snooze on that.Pronger is getting his number retired in St. Louis next season.
I'm sure it's been said ten times over, but Sergei Gonchar is not getting his number retired in Washington. I've never heard any rumblings of it, it's not on any radars.
Regarding former Caps, Alan May (former Capital player and current team in between the glass correspondent) has basically said that both Peter Bondra and Olaf Kolzig will probably see their numbers raised at some point. Leonsis famously didn't want to retire anymore numbers until he got his cup. Both Bondra and Kolzig work in the Caps organization so I think we'll see them both sooner than later. Why not Sergei if those two? Well, the role those two played is a bit different. Both were faces of the franchise during the extent of the 90's. Both were outward public figures during both high marks in the teams history (98 Cup run) and lone bright spots in low marks. Sergei never really connected as much with the local community, he's not thought of in the same regard in DC as he is in Pitt. Go to a Caps game and you'll see Kolzig and Bonzai sweaters, you'd be hard pressed to find any Gonchar's.
For modern players, Backstrom and Ovechkin are obvious choices, the team has pretty much confirmed that it'll happen and they'll be retired at the same time. Other options? Here is where time will tell. I think Holtby has a decent shot. He owns essentially every single goalie record in a 46 year old team franchise and he helped us capture our first Cup. I think that it will happen a few years after Ovechkin/Backstrom.
I think if Carlson puts together 3-4 more seasons like this past one he's got a chance.
I also think that the Capitals are also wild cards in number retirement. Yvonne Labre is one of the lowest bars you could have for a number retirement and yet he's one of only 4 retired. Even he basically said he was shocked when the team retired his number. Dale Hunter is obviously not a prolific player, but he was a huge part of the team and their image for years. So the team has definitely made it clear that between Labre and Hunter, they're not opposed to putting fan favorites who don't have the best resume in the rafters. With that all said, I think you could conceivably see a future where after Ovechkin retires Tom Wilson becomes the team captain, and well... you take it from there.
Labre was retired in the early 1980s, it was done out of fan service. He was the first captain of the team and the first guy they really marketed. The owner at the time, Abe Pollin, was kind of a softy for stuff like that. Statistically Labre kind of breaks the system as he was a pretty average hockey player, his number was retirement was even a surprise to him. He was working for the radio broadcast team at the time and he thought they were doing something to honor someone else and they were like "Surprise, we're retiring your number." I believe his quote was like "I never really thought I'd have my number retired."Labre was before my time, but Gartner was the one that kinda shocked me. Great player, but he moved around a lot & so many years had passed since he left the team.
Ovechkin’s obviously a lock. Backstrom probably is too, although I personally think Kolzig and Bondra are equally deserving as #19.
retiring #s is asinine. Honour the player.
Brad Marchand is a good player, but not an elite talent, and he hasn’t done enough for the Bruins to warrant a number retirement. Marchand will never make the Hockey Hall of Fame. Yes, Rick Middleton isn’t in the Hall either and still had his number retired, but he was a better player than Marchand. Terry O’Reilly also isn’t in the Hall, but he was a leader on the Bruins for years, and Marchand doesn’t even wear an alternate captain’s “A” on his sweater. He has for a game here or there, but not consistently. Certainly not enough to get 63 retired.
Montreal:
Carey Price
Two things. One, the Leafs now do retire numbers and retired a bunch on the 100th anniversary. Everyone who was "honoured" with a banner got their numbers officially retired. Secondly, the Leafs are the first team to retire a number in professional sports, when they retired Ace Bailey's after Eddie Shore ended his career. Bill Barilko's number was also retired prior to the 100th ceremony. They didn't retire numbers for years for on-ice accomplishments. Personally, I liked the old system of just having Barilko and Bailly. I like the system in Europe in soccer where certain numbers have a historic attachment to great players like #7 at Manchester United. I do find some of the standards to retire numbers for clubs a bit low. I liked the one the Blue Jays implemented but then broke, which was they would only retire numbers of players who got into Cooperstown wearing a Jays hat. They broke it for Halladay after his death, probably fully expecting him to be honored as a Jay instead of the no hat. I would also add retiring or not issuing numbers of people who died while an active team member like Barilko.I don't think it's asinine. I know the Leafs don't do it but isn't that mostly about Harold Ballard being a jackass and not wanting any Leaf to be more important than the team or Ballard himself?
Nashville:
Roman Josi (There's a good shot if he continues to have seasons like this one, could win the Norris this year and may get some Hart votes, lots of hockey left in his career though)
Pekka Rinne Guaranteed lock (350+ wins, first major trophy win for the franchise, several more years in the top 3-5 of Vezina voting and a couple top ten Hart finishes)
Filip Forsberg (Couple of 30+ goal seasons isn't going to cut it.)
Mattias Ekholm (A top 4 defenseman that might be a top pairing guy if he wasn't behind Josi; not getting his # retired without some serious hardware.
Ryan Ellis (Some good seasons as a top pairing guy, not deserving of number retirement though.)
Shea Weber (Will probably get his # retired)
Lecavalier and St. Louis Numbers are already retired by the Lightning.Anaheim:
Ryan Getzlaf
Corey Perry
Chris Pronger
Jean-Sebastien Giguere
Arizona:
Nobody, maybe Ekman-Larsson
Boston:
Patrice Bergeron
Zdeno Chara
Brad Marchand
Tuukka Rask
David Krejci
Buffalo:
Maybe Eichel if they contend again and decides to stay
Calgary:
Miikka Kiprusoff
Mark Giordano
Carolina:
Eric Staal
Cam Ward
Chicago:
Jonathan Toews
Patrick Kane
Duncan Keith
Marian Hossa
Brent Seabrook
Colorado:
Gabriel Landeskog
Nathan MacKinnon
Columbus:
Rick Nash
Cam Atkinson
Nick Foligno (I don't agree with it, but he's done a ton off the ice)
Seth Jones and Zach Werenski I think have potential, but time will tell
Dallas Stars:
Tyler Seguin
Jamie Benn
Detroit:
Pavel Datsyuk
Henrik Zetterberg
Sergei Fedorov
Edmonton:
Kevin Lowe
Ryan Nugent-Hopkins
Ryan Smyth
Maybe McDavid and Drasiaitl
Florida:
Nobody
Los Angeles:
Drew Doughty
Anze Kopitar
Jonathan Quick
Dustin Brown
Minnesota:
Mikko Koivu
Montreal:
Carey Price
Nashville:
Roman Josi
Pekka Rinne
Filip Forsberg
Mattias Ekholm
Ryan Ellis
Shea Weber
New Jersey:
Travis Zajac
New York Islanders:
Josh Bailey
Anders Lee
New York Rangers:
Henrik Lundqvist
Jaromir Jagr
Ottawa:
Jason Spezza
Erik Karlsson
Philadelphia:
Claude Giroux
Pittsburgh:
Sidney Crosby
Evgeni Malkin
Jaromir Jagr
San Jose:
Joe Thornton
Patrick Marleau
Joe Pavelski
Logan Couture
Brent Burns
Maybe Erik Karlsson if he does enough damage
St. Louis:
Alex Pietrangelo
David Perron
Alexander Steen
Ryan O'Reilly (if he spends the remainder of his career there, which I highly expect)
Brayden Schenn (I think he's set to retire with the Blues)
Vladimir Tarasenko
Jaden Schwartz
Binnington only if he finds his game again and plays more of his career there.
Tampa Bay:
Vincent Lecavalier
Martin St. Louis
Steven Stamkos
Victor Hedman
Nikita Kucherov
Maybe Ondrej Palat
Toronto:
Mitch Marner
Would say Matthews, but not to troll Toronto fans I could see him wanting out in a few seasons if the Leafs can't make it past the first round. But Marner I think spends his career with the Leafs win or lose.
Tavares only if the Leafs win the cup.
Vancouver:
Alex Edler
Bo Horvat
Elias Pettersson
Quinn Hughes
But only if they spend more of their career there, but I expect them to do long-term damage with the Canucks.
Vegas:
Mark Stone
William Karlsson
Jonathan Marchessault
Nate Schmidt
Alex Tuch
Max Pacioretty
Reilly Smith
Those are the few I could see getting consideration, but hard to tell in hindsight.
Washington:
Alex Ovechkin
Niklas Backstrom
John Carlson
Olaf Kolzig
Braden Holtby
Peter Bondra
Evgeny Kuznetsov
Tom Wilson
Winnipeg:
Mark Scheifele
Blake Wheeler
Josh Morrissey
Bryan Little
Connor Hellebuyck
Nuge is not going to get retired ever lolRyan Nugent-Hopkins
Nuge is not going to get retired ever lol
And then you say McDavid and Drai are MAYBES.
They have both achieved more than Nuge already lol
Anaheim:
Ryan Getzlaf
Corey Perry
Chris Pronger
Jean-Sebastien Giguere
Arizona:
Nobody, maybe Ekman-Larsson
Boston:
Patrice Bergeron
Zdeno Chara
Brad Marchand
Tuukka Rask
David Krejci
Buffalo:
Maybe Eichel if they contend again and decides to stay
Calgary:
Miikka Kiprusoff
Mark Giordano
Carolina:
Eric Staal
Cam Ward
Chicago:
Jonathan Toews
Patrick Kane
Duncan Keith
Marian Hossa
Brent Seabrook
Colorado:
Gabriel Landeskog
Nathan MacKinnon
Columbus:
Rick Nash
Cam Atkinson
Nick Foligno (I don't agree with it, but he's done a ton off the ice)
Seth Jones and Zach Werenski I think have potential, but time will tell
Dallas Stars:
Tyler Seguin
Jamie Benn
Detroit:
Pavel Datsyuk
Henrik Zetterberg
Sergei Fedorov
Edmonton:
Kevin Lowe
Ryan Nugent-Hopkins
Ryan Smyth
Maybe McDavid and Drasiaitl
Florida:
Nobody
Los Angeles:
Drew Doughty
Anze Kopitar
Jonathan Quick
Dustin Brown
Minnesota:
Mikko Koivu
Montreal:
Carey Price
Nashville:
Roman Josi
Pekka Rinne
Filip Forsberg
Mattias Ekholm
Ryan Ellis
Shea Weber
New Jersey:
Travis Zajac
New York Islanders:
Josh Bailey
Anders Lee
New York Rangers:
Henrik Lundqvist
Jaromir Jagr
Ottawa:
Jason Spezza
Erik Karlsson
Philadelphia:
Claude Giroux
Pittsburgh:
Sidney Crosby
Evgeni Malkin
Jaromir Jagr
San Jose:
Joe Thornton
Patrick Marleau
Joe Pavelski
Logan Couture
Brent Burns
Maybe Erik Karlsson if he does enough damage
St. Louis:
Alex Pietrangelo
David Perron
Alexander Steen
Ryan O'Reilly (if he spends the remainder of his career there, which I highly expect)
Brayden Schenn (I think he's set to retire with the Blues)
Vladimir Tarasenko
Jaden Schwartz
Binnington only if he finds his game again and plays more of his career there.
Tampa Bay:
Steven Stamkos
Victor Hedman
Nikita Kucherov
Maybe Ondrej Palat
Toronto:
Mitch Marner
Would say Matthews, but not to troll Toronto fans I could see him wanting out in a few seasons if the Leafs can't make it past the first round. But Marner I think spends his career with the Leafs win or lose.
Tavares only if the Leafs win the cup.
Vancouver:
Alex Edler
Bo Horvat
Elias Pettersson
Quinn Hughes
But only if they spend more of their career there, but I expect them to do long-term damage with the Canucks.
Vegas:
Mark Stone
William Karlsson
Jonathan Marchessault
Nate Schmidt
Alex Tuch
Max Pacioretty
Reilly Smith
Those are the few I could see getting consideration, but hard to tell in hindsight.
Washington:
Alex Ovechkin
Niklas Backstrom
John Carlson
Olaf Kolzig
Braden Holtby
Peter Bondra
Evgeny Kuznetsov
Tom Wilson
Winnipeg:
Mark Scheifele
Blake Wheeler
Josh Morrissey
Bryan Little
Connor Hellebuyck
I don't think Marchand goes to the HHOF either but he's absolutely been elite the last 4 years. 3rd in the league in points/game over that stretch. You can't tell me that's not elite in a league that has McDavid, Crosby, Kane, Malkin, MacKinnon, Kucherov, Draisaitl, and Stamkos in it. His peak as an elite player definitely eclipses Middleton's peak compared to their peers. Being a key part of a Cup winner and probably playing his entire career in Boston will likely put #63 up in the Garden rafters.
I like Brad Marchand as much as anyone. Yes, he was a key member of the 2011 team, and he’s really elevated his game over the last few years, but I just can’t wrap my head around his number being retired. He’s just not on the same level as 33 and 37.C'mon, I was watching hockey back when Middleton was still paying and sure he was real good but Marchand, especially in the last few seasons, is a comparable. Also Marchand was an integral member of a Cup winning team and went to the Finals as well whereas Middleton never did win it all.
I can't believe you got me to defend Brad Marchand. *shivers* I need to take a shower.
Even if he does spend his whole career there, he hasn't done anything to warrant retiring his number. So far he has broke 60 points exactly twice, and has only even made the playoffs once in the 9 years he has been there.Same reason I believe Smyth and Lowe should be retired by the Oilers. I can see RNH spending his career there and has been awesome for them the entire time.
Season LD and McDavid are maybes are the fact if the Oilers don't make progress I doubt they're going to be there in 1-3 seasons. RNH I think will.
Even if he does spend his whole career there, he hasn't done anything to warrant retiring his number. So far he has broke 60 points exactly twice, and has only even made the playoffs once in the 9 years he has been there.
What about that says that they should retire his number to you?
He was the most underrated Oiler of his era? Imo he’s a borderline hall of famer unfortunately Americans don’t get a lot of credit & it’s sad cuz you’d think Keith tkachuk would be in by now, Weight was one of the best playmakers of his era. In that span 1996 to 2003 he was prolly top ten, top 15 among playmakers. And he also has a cup ring against the team he played for that he was most known won it with carolina beat the oilers.I think everybody would agree that you should be giving me heck if I said Shawn Horcoff, which I would never say.
I also believe Doug Weight should have his number retired there, but that's a big debate.
And I do agree his number should be hung up in Edmonton, him and Ryan smyth. Kevin Lowe In the next few years now that he’s in the hall. Ik weight was a blue as well but the blues can honor his number not retire it.I think everybody would agree that you should be giving me heck if I said Shawn Horcoff, which I would never say.
I also believe Doug Weight should have his number retired there, but that's a big debate.
New Jersey:
Travis Zajac
I think Marchy deserves to have his number retired more than Middleton and O'Reilly.I like Brad Marchand as much as anyone. Yes, he was a key member of the 2011 team, and he’s really elevated his game over the last few years, but I just can’t wrap my head around his number being retired. He’s just not on the same level as 33 and 37.
For the record, I never agreed with Middleton’s 16 or O’Reilly’s 24 being retired, either. I think the Bruins foolishly lowered the bar on those.
Apologies to Bruins fans who don’t agree with me on this. That’s just what I think.
For Chicago, the iron-clad locks are Toews, Kane, Keith and Hossa.
The maybes are Seabrook - who would only likely get his raised in a joint ceremony with Chelios, and Crawford.
You probably already knew this, but just in case you didn’t... if the Bruins retire Tuukka Rask’s number 40, he will be the first Bruins goalie to have his number retired.I think Marchy deserves to have his number retired more than Middleton and O'Reilly.
Chara, Bergeron and Rask are automatic and Krejci has one hell of a case as well.