Who said they would have one with Alfie instead of toews or Crosby. And karlsson instead of letang or Keith?
I mean in practice they would be replacing one of the stars. Not simply added to the team
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I mean in practice they would be replacing one of the stars. Not simply added to the team
I dont think we are in a position to carry the burdensome cap space of overpaid players anymore, as if we were at the bottom of the development cycle and have cap space to use for purchasing assets. Pageau would be a great emotional story as a free wallet though.
IF Tarasenko, a proven playoff scorer on a reasonable expiring contract we could even retain on, cant get a 1st in this competitive deadline, surely he cant justify a $7mil salary next year?
IF Tarasenko, a proven playoff scorer on a reasonable expiring contract we could even retain on, cant get a 1st in this competitive deadline, surely he cant justify a $7mil salary next year?
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Why would you replace them. Alfredsson made like 4.8 mill. Prime Karlsson only made 6.5. Easily addable salaries. And there were pre-cap times as well when it didn't even matter.
Also you think Toews and Crosby would have won with Melnyk? Letang or Keith when they are asked to be the best players on the team?
If you replace Alfie in the early 2000s and mid 2000s with Sidney Crosby yes I think we win lol. But we will never know. But karlsson at least does not have the best track record. Another team may be trading him away here lol.
I just
A. Don’t idolize players. They’re a means to an end. They’re mostly degenerates. I don’t care about them at all.
B. Don’t love those two players as much as sens fans do. Great players tho
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So how many cups was Karlsson supposed to win with us to be a winner and have a good track record?
It seems like you only think players are winners and leaders if they have team accomplishments, but those same players with exact same leadership and talent would be losers if they by pure luck had different circumstances and didn't win.
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Aha! I notice you didn't address Ice Cream, Puppies or Christmas. Very interesting Captain.
For karlsson I would have needed to see more. Simple as that.
But yeah if you let karlsson play with Sid geno letang in their primes sure they could have brought him a cup.
I never saw Ice Cream win a Stanley cup
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I don't know. That's a lofty claim if it's Alfredsson he's stepping in for and removing. It also feels like an unfair argument since Crosby is a center, and the Senators were notoriously deficient at Center. That would have been a huge boon to the cause in itself more than any increase in quality of play from Crosby over Alfie. Even Crosby had a ton of circumstances helping him along the way and could have just as easily ended up with no cups had he been drafted elsewhere, like many other greats spread across sports. Crosby is also still considered to have been a generational talent basically standing on his own, so it is less about "winners" and "losers" as it is about swapping in the best hockey player over a 15 year period.
Just the butterfly effect alone of adding a small variable and replaying history would turn many "winners" in to "losers". Circumstances make winners more than winners make themselves winners.
Basically every "winning" player respected as a legend played with incredible teams, often chocked with HOF's. Doesn't matter the sport. If it's not that, it's a Cinderella team. Then you have the criticism of someone like Karlsson even though he only had a couple shots at proving because he played the majority of his career on bad teams. Team Sports just muddies the water too much.
And I can't imagine sports fandom without the tribalism, but maybe you feel that still applies even though you see the players sort of as cattle?
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IMO Stankoven +1st is worth it for an extended Hanifin. Not sure if Stars fans would agree tho.
Yo hamonic cannot play. Like at all right now.
Chychrun has one of the worst first passes for a top 4. Guy is the anti redden
What the f*** is forsberg doing
Chychrun has one of the worst first passes for a top 4. Guy is the anti redden
What the f*** is forsberg doing
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Your joking if you don't think that Edmonton demands someone like Kubalik or Brannstrom also goes the other way. Sadly this is the best asset they have in Edmonton, and they can't settle for anything less than a notable overpayment for it.
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Norris AND Kubalik for McDavid is a huge overpayment - I wouldn’t do it
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I sometimes think that we might overvalue our players...But then I understand how guys like Kubalik make it so hard to let go, so that's not directed at you...
It’s at least interesting.
He’d be a fit in that he’d probably instantly be first unit PK guy and an interesting option as a complimentary player, particularly when shifted to right wing.
It would be easy to imagine him in a shutdown role on a line with say Pinto and Greig or Joseph. He could also add some defensive help to a line with Stutzle.
Chychrun is Bryan McCabe who thinks he’s Wade Redden (or Tomas Kaberle).
The shot and size combo is actually pretty sick. Just embrace a different style buddy. Let someone else lug the puck and just blast it.
Moneyball a goalie.
If tarasenko wants to come back let him on a good deal. Don’t you cb the center depth.
Kubalik and brannstrom and hamonic gone.
Two RDs in. Jbd gone too for a pick.
Get rid of korpisalo any way possible.
Question for cap guys.
We’re right at the cap at the moment. Don’t we HAVE to get rid of money to simply fit Sanderson raise?
If tarasenko wants to come back let him on a good deal. Don’t you cb the center depth.
Kubalik and brannstrom and hamonic gone.
Two RDs in. Jbd gone too for a pick.
Get rid of korpisalo any way possible.
Question for cap guys.
We’re right at the cap at the moment. Don’t we HAVE to get rid of money to simply fit Sanderson raise?
