HuGort
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PMB didn't live up to the hype he had coming out of junior. He was so small and never put up the big offensive numbers. He had Riberio type numbers in junior
F Martin Reway (2013, 116th, MTL)
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PMB didn't live up to the hype he had coming out of junior. He was so small and never put up the big offensive numbers. He had Riberio type numbers in junior
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Reway's 6 game point streak came to end today, he amassed 17 points over that span. If you were just to look at the boxscore, it would appear he had a good game as he fired 10 shots on goal; however, the majority of those shots were simple long shots that the goaltender had no problem with.
On top of that, he was an absolute turnover machine. I honestly lost count of how many times he turned the puck over. Most of them came in the third period and in overtime, crucial parts of the game. While he doesn't have a problem with backchecking, as soon as there's sustained pressure in his own zone Reway has no idea what to do. So he stops moving his feet and just glides. While he has made improvements in the that area, it's still quite poor. Reway's awareness in his own zone just simply isn't very good. He can be a pretty dangerous penalty killer though, forces lots of turnovers.
Reway's a very dynamic offensive talent due to his shiftiness, unbelievable hands, and creativity, but he isn't the fastest skater and gets pushed off the puck extremely easy. While he's an interesting project, he's certainly not on the same level that other diminutive Habs prospects are, like Charles Hudon, Sven Andrighetto, or Artturi Lehkonen.
On top of that, he was an absolute turnover machine. I honestly lost count of how many times he turned the puck over. Most of them came in the third period and in overtime, crucial parts of the game. While he doesn't have a problem with backchecking, as soon as there's sustained pressure in his own zone Reway has no idea what to do. So he stops moving his feet and just glides. While he has made improvements in the that area, it's still quite poor. Reway's awareness in his own zone just simply isn't very good. He can be a pretty dangerous penalty killer though, forces lots of turnovers.
Reway's a very dynamic offensive talent due to his shiftiness, unbelievable hands, and creativity, but he isn't the fastest skater and gets pushed off the puck extremely easy. While he's an interesting project, he's certainly not on the same level that other diminutive Habs prospects are, like Charles Hudon, Sven Andrighetto, or Artturi Lehkonen.
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Sounds bad but cannot be the case. I still think he is the best of the bunch - and quite easilly.
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I don't. While Reway has the fanciest highlight reel, he just isn't on the same as the other three. He might get there, but he's just not close at this point. He's a longshot prospect currently.
Andrighetto might not have the hands that Reway has, but he still possesses incredible hands. He's faster than Reway, has a way stockier build, and competes significantly harder than Reway. He's proven everything that Reway has and more in the QMJHL, with his 204 points in 133 career games. While it's a small sample size, he's also proven to be incredibly effective at the AHL level, where (up until his injury) he was arguably the Bulldogs' best forward.
Hudon is a different breed of player than Reway, but he's every bit as effective. One of Reway's flaws is his hockey sense, while that is Hudon's best asset. Hudon has struggled this year (some blame can be placed on the weaker team and abnormally low shooting percentage), but he brings more to the table than Reway, with his strong two-way game, leadership, and compete level.
Lehkonen is absolutely fearless. Goes into the corners hard and has a non-stop motor, plus he's proven he play against men. He's actually leading KalPa in scoring this season, despite shooting at ~4.0%. Lehkonen is also very skilled, great hands and shot, good nose for the net and plays with purpose in his own zone.
As the runner of a Youtube channel for strictly Habs prospects, I love Reway because he's a human highlight reel, but his overall play just isn't up to par. He's below average defensively in the QMJHL, very weak, tiny, and is selfish with the puck. It's a pretty bad combination if you ask me. As a Habs fan, all prospects are equal to me. I want to see Reway succeed just as much as any other prospect, but I go by what I see and I haven't seen anything that makes me think Reway is anything more than long term project. However, it's barely six months after the draft. There's still lots of hockey to be played, so lets hope Reway takes the significant step(s) forward that he needs to take.
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Okay. Fair enough. But how about the preseason? Reway was pretty much the talk of the camp if I understood correctly. It should be indicative of something, at least. . (Lehkonen wasn't there what about the other two?).
Based on this I still have high hopes on him. - And Hudon: I think I read some degrading scout comment on him on the Habs forum: "He is a good junior hockey player but not an NHL player" or something. Doesn't sound too promising either. And Andrighetto - isn't hes some kind of late bloomer passed by in the previous two drafts? And Lehkonen, well - he is a dark horse in this four horse race. Let's see what these kids (three of them?) can do at the WJC.
All in all, if one of them pans out - my bet is Martin"highlight reel" Reway - because of his camp performance.
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Can't speak for training camp specifically (apart from one scrimmage), but in preseason Andrighetto showed flashes of skill, but wasn't particularly noticeable; however, he's been great in the AHL thus far. Hudon only played in one game IIRC where he took a couple of penalties. Reway was pretty good. He got too fancy quite a bit, but he impressed with his skill. But here's a player who tremendously impressed at camp a couple of years ago - Olivier Archambault. Never signed because he never improved, despite playing lights out at camp (arguably better than Reway did), so I wouldn't put much stock into it.
As for scout's quotes, a scout who's a regular on the Habs board has mentioned that Reway's hockey sense is questionable. I would probably put more stock in a named scout basing his opinion off lots of viewings compared to an anonymous scout talking referring to one game (if I understand correctly).
Martin Reway has incredible offensive potential if he pans out. I agree the chances of his game translating in the NHL are probably less than 50% (even less than 40%) but for a 4th round pick, it is very good.
That is why he is the most intriguing Habs prospect in my eyes.
That is why he is the most intriguing Habs prospect in my eyes.
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I agree with this, Reway while being an incredible Jr I don't see his game transitioning to the NHL very well. A lot of Corey Locke in him, I had the pleasure of watching both of them in the Ottawa area.
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2 more goals and he added an assist as well.
9. in scoring race. And the 3th place its not so far away - only 6 points. Mantha and Drouin are other level.
Ya, that's the comparison I see as well. Both guys are great offensive talents, play with some edge, but the lack of size and skating is a serious limitation. They are very similar players.
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is his skating really that bad? when I watch some highlights, he doesnt seem to me like his skating should be a problem.
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The Canadiens have a number of prospects at 5'10" and under. I wonder what the NHL policy would be if they consulted an endocrinologist about prescribing HGH, and whether a physician would consider making that prescription. In my view, at 18 or 19, some assisted growth may still be possible.
Edit: After all, if he picks up 2-3 inches and maybe even reaches 6 feet, as well as puts a little meat on his frame and in particular his legs, whereby he also becomes more explosive, the case can be made not only that he will be a better player, but a more durable and healthy player. I wonder why this point is never argued on these terms on the board.
Edit: After all, if he picks up 2-3 inches and maybe even reaches 6 feet, as well as puts a little meat on his frame and in particular his legs, whereby he also becomes more explosive, the case can be made not only that he will be a better player, but a more durable and healthy player. I wonder why this point is never argued on these terms on the board.
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Now after looking for some youtube evidence on Reway's skating - it's nonsense saying he looks like Corey Locke on that department. The kid's skating is just fine - the comparison to Locke is just inept or intentionally downgrading... Since he is not a good old Canadian boy like Drouin whose skating looks just as much like Locke's...
Time to uplift hopes on Reway again. The kid is an offensive juggernaut with fine skating and speed.
You can see his skating on display here, especially from 0:08 onwards. As you can see it's not bad though there's still much room to improve once he gets more strength in his legs.
Time to uplift hopes on Reway again. The kid is an offensive juggernaut with fine skating and speed.
You can see his skating on display here, especially from 0:08 onwards. As you can see it's not bad though there's still much room to improve once he gets more strength in his legs.
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Yeah, while Reway could certainly be faster, he isn't as poor of a skater as Corey Locke was/is. Reway might only be marginally faster than Locke, but he's WAY shifter and significantly more agile.
The comparison isn't completely unfounded though, but I don't necessarily agree with it.
The comparison isn't completely unfounded though, but I don't necessarily agree with it.
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Now after looking for some youtube evidence on Reway's skating - it's nonsense saying he looks like Corey Locke on that department. The kid's skating is just fine - the comparison to Locke is just inept or intentionally downgrading... Since he is not a good old Canadian boy like Drouin whose skating looks just as much like Locke's...
Time to uplift hopes on Reway again. The kid is an offensive juggernaut with fine skating and speed.
You can see his skating on display here, especially from 0:08 onwards. As you can see it's not bad though there's still much room to improve once he gets more strength in his legs.
i can see why the flames were worried montreal was going to pick poirier, i would assume they had these 2 guys scouted very well. they seem to have really good chemistry.
Now after looking for some youtube evidence on Reway's skating - it's nonsense saying he looks like Corey Locke on that department. The kid's skating is just fine - the comparison to Locke is just inept or intentionally downgrading... Since he is not a good old Canadian boy like Drouin whose skating looks just as much like Locke's...
Time to uplift hopes on Reway again. The kid is an offensive juggernaut with fine skating and speed.
You can see his skating on display here, especially from 0:08 onwards. As you can see it's not bad though there's still much room to improve once he gets more strength in his legs.
I'm confused by your logic. What is the motivation for intentionally downgrading Reway with a comparison to Locke? Because Reway is not Canadian, I compare him to one of the best Canadian junior players of the past 15 years? And why would fans of the 67s and Olympiques be intentionally downgrading Reway anyways? Have you considered that maybe the Locke comparison is not necessarily that bad? On the surface, it appears pretty generous. At Reway's age, Locke put together a 63 goal, 151 point season, winning CHL Player of the Year. Reway produced at that level for a couple of weeks; Locke did it all year.
And you can't be serious in referencing Drouin - if Reway was at all comparable to Drouin, he wouldn't have gone in the fourth round, it's that simple. People said the same thing about Locke in 2003, that he was worthy of first round consideration, but the reality is that at 5'9", you have an uphill battle to make the NHL, even if your skating is good. I'd love to see Reway in the NHL, it would be a great story and Groulx knows how to develop overachievers, but be realistic when talking about prospects like this.
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Loffer
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It remains a mystery to me how Locke could have been that productive in the CHL. Last season he played in the FEL and couldn't do much (37 gp 5 g 12 a 17 p). And off he went.
If Reway really is much like Locke he has snowball's chance in hell to make it. So, saying Reway is like Locke amounts to throwing him under the bus. Not much generosity there.
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