Confirmed with Link: [EDM/DET] Yamamoto and Kostin for Future Considerations

[Zerotonine]

LOL he is an RFA have to have his rights to sign him...

Didn't think players who been on waivers still had RFA status. That doenst make sense to me but whatever

 

[russ99]

Agreed, we're counting on guys like Wheeler, Toews, and Brown being willing to come here and pretty much the only reason they would is to chase a cup. Can't really count on that.

Holloway and Lavoie need to show something next season.

Coach needs to trust young players and play all 4 lines and all 3 pairings, stop this load up at the top and play our top players crazy minutes, led to much of the injury situation we saw in the postseason.

However I think this is good business, throwing in Kostin to get Detroit to eat the whole cap hit and not having to give up a pick, is best case here.

 

[Drivesaitl]

Oh your poor melancholy here. Happy that Yamo is gone because short, but upset that Kostin is gone because don't over pay 4th line wingers.

Not sure what your point is. Yams is a dud, always was. Unfortunately yet another wasted pick and took unfortunately years for the team to realize.

Klim could be topnine player and could get looks in topsix for the right teams. The guy has skill and can shoot the puck and skate well. Sorry you were asleep the whole time and saw none of that.

 

[Arpeggio]

Please. Whens the last time we acquired a player like Kostin for essentially nothing? He is not easily replaceable, not all the facets he brings. Guy was also properly used a good glue guy in the room to crack people up and reduce some of the nerves of players around him in pressure situations. Guys like Drai appeared to love Klim and his antics. The fans for sure loved Klim and everybody I know did. He was among fan favorites here.

The Oilers seem to have a pretty solid room without him too. I was a big fan of Kostin too, but I think you're overstating his impact here. It's a gaping hole in the lineup for sure, but not in a very important spot.

 

[joestevens29]

Didn't think players who been on waivers still had RFA status. That doenst make sense to me but whatever

You can also be bought out, sign as a UFA and then still have RFA status.

 

[Gunnersaurus Rex]

Kostin was a new version of Kassian. Great for one game, okay for a few more then invisible for stretches. Took undisciplined penalties at bad times too.
In the end, he wanted more money than the Oilers could afford.

 

[Drivesaitl]

The Oilers seem to have a pretty solid room without him too. I was a big fan of Kostin too, but I think you're overstating his impact here. It's a gaping hole in the lineup for sure, but not in a very important spot.

I don't get this because my every look at the player was a gamer that was wanting to grow his game and contribution and how he would be utilized. Albeit it was harder to do that while being parked on the bench.

The intangibles that Kostin brings are in short supply and he's a hard player to play against. The kind I want on my team anytime. Very rarely would I see Kostin take shifts or games or weeks off like multiple other players here have.

 

[North Cole]

Thank God Yamo is gone. Kostin sucks but better than paying the guy 2m, have to wait and see what he signs for in DET, if at all.

Is that the last of the shitty Chia draft picks?

 

[Captain Fantastic]

"Future Considerations"..wish they'd stop using that term. Means you're gettin' sh*** back.

 

[Trafalgar Sadge Law]

Ugly, had to lose Kostin to dump Yamamoto meanwhile New Jersey gets Toffoli for a comparable player in Sharangovich. Sigh... at least we have some more cap space now...

 

[DaGap]

Kostin Playoff Stats

7th in Goals
11th in Assists
9th in points
4th in +/- with 2
9th in Pims

20th in ATOI

 

[Arpeggio]

I don't get this because my every look at the player was a gamer that was wanting to grow his game and contribution and how he would be utilized. Albeit it was harder to do that while being parked on the bench.

The intangibles that Kostin brings are in short supply and he's a hard player to play against. The kind I want on my team anytime. Very rarely would I see Kostin take shifts or games or weeks off like multiple other players here have.

Yeah I agree, I wish they could've signed him too. But it sounds like they were willing to go up to 1.5 and he wanted 1.75-2. To me, 1.5 is borderline high for the numbers he put up, so I don't know if they really had much of a choice. He's not a better player than Foegele today, as much as I like the guy.

 

[Wookie]

Say what?

Klim just wanted to get paid and to play for a team that actually wants to use him. I would take that player anytime. Is it Kostins fault the headcoach is incapable of spotting a gamer that will do anything, in his lineup?

So the poster that was comparing Kostin to Glencross situation months ago has been proven to be right. Forget who it was but this is part 2 of losing a player for nothing that showed he was an absolute stud on ice willing to do anything to get shifts and outwork almost anybody. Why was Kostin so devalued by the coaching staff?

kostin’s nhl career was revived with the oilers picking him up and giving him an opportunity to play. consider the extremely small sample size of his nhl career, expecting to be paid as you’ve put it is abit premature and has tones of entitlement. playing the khl card also probably didn’t win over holland either

bottom line - kostin was given a chance to succeed here and hopefully be part of a championship team and all he had to do is take a “bet on yourself” deal and get $$ on the next contract

 

[Drivesaitl]

At the end of the day how this shakes down is Yams contract was so bad, and the player so little an asset that we had to spend a Kostin value player just to eat the last year of the contract. The contract that should never have been signed. The time to lose Yams was last year and some clubs might have been fooled by the outlier 20goal year. Holland f***ed up royally on this situation.
Kostin will be a decent player wherever he lands. He was a gift to the Oilers and one of few trades we won hands down. Which we now just give away.

sucks

 

[Drivesaitl]

kostin’s nhl career was revived with the oilers picking him up and giving him an opportunity to play. consider the extremely small sample size of his nhl career, expecting to be paid as you’ve put it is abit premature and has tones of entitlement. playing the khl card also probably didn’t win over holland either

bottom line - kostin was given a chance to succeed here and hopefully be part of a championship team and all he had to do is take a “bet on yourself” deal and get $$ on the next contract

All fair. We don't know all the details. I don't agree with others that he's less value than Foegele. sub 2M should get a deal done but even if it took 2 I would pay the player and increase his utilization. He can play more minutes and roles in my estimation. In my world Kostin gets paid due to the abrasive nature of the player who can also score. A headache to play against and got some big goals, even in these playoffs where he was sparsely used. His under usage was one of the strangest things I've seen. This was our our Eddie Shack. We gave him away.

End of the day this is pro sports entertainment and Kostin was among fan favorites. he was that player who very quickly rose up to be one of the more adored players on the team. Sucks to lose him, just the entertainment value, but sucks to not have seen the utmost of what he can do on ice. Kostin was also big in the LA series. Could we not have swung some kind of deal there? Seems like Kings have been just interested in paring down roster.

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

Woodcroft the same coach that thought it was a good idea to play his star players at the end of a game and ended up almost losing one of them

If your game plan is worrying about the stars getting hurt then get out of the league. A shitty attack can happen at any time during a game.

 

[Arpeggio]

kostin’s nhl career was revived with the oilers picking him up and giving him an opportunity to play. consider the extremely small sample size of his nhl career, expecting to be paid as you’ve put it is abit premature and has tones of entitlement. playing the khl card also probably didn’t win over holland either

bottom line - kostin was given a chance to succeed here and hopefully be part of a championship team and all he had to do is take a “bet on yourself” deal and get $$ on the next contract

I'm not sure I can fault him for wanting to bet on himself on a different team. You know that Holloway is going to get minutes next season, and PP time is out of the question. In Detroit, maybe he can play in the top six, and get a reasonable amount of PP time on a team that actually uses two units. I wouldn't be surprised if this is what him and his agent are thinking.

 

[McDoused]

This was an absolutely necessary move.

I wonder if Kostin is qualified by Detroit with his arb rights? Otherwise he would be UFA and could still sign here.

 

[Jumptheshark]

we had no other option. With Bouchard and Mcleod needing new contracts--oilers were screwed.

Question--in this case--are FCs nothing? Sometimes there are conditions based pts and or games played

 

[Arpeggio]

If your game plan is worrying about the stars getting hurt then get out of the league. A shitty attack can happen at any time during a game.

Especially considering the opposing team had emptied their net. I don't know what kind of amnesia everyone suffers from here, but a 3 goal game with over 2 minutes left is definitely not over.

 

[NedPlimpton]

Kostin was fun and did his role well, so it is kind of a shame to see him go. I thought he'd take a pretty reasonable contract to play here again given how he kind of "woke up" on this team and seemed to enjoy it here, but I guess not. As others have said the negotiations must not have went so well. That and theirs hardly any damn money anyway.

So i guess that's business and got luck to him.

And I agree giving away Yam instead of buying him out is fine, so here we are.

 

[BardownMagic]

AA trade and now this - the detroit donations from the oilers continue

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

Especially considering the opposing team had emptied their net. I don't know what kind of amnesia everyone suffers from here, but a 3 goal game with over 2 minutes left is definitely not over.

Yup, you always put your best options out there when the net is empty.

Didn't Vegas end up scoring on us 3 times in a 2 minute span anyway?

 

[McOilers97]

I don't get this because my every look at the player was a gamer that was wanting to grow his game and contribution and how he would be utilized. Albeit it was harder to do that while being parked on the bench.

The intangibles that Kostin brings are in short supply and he's a hard player to play against. The kind I want on my team anytime. Very rarely would I see Kostin take shifts or games or weeks off like multiple other players here have.

If he wanted too much money, what can really be done about that? This team can't pay Kostin the apparent asking price of nearly $2m.

This pro-scouting group did a good job of assembling a bottom 6 last year and I feel decently that they can do so again this summer. If Kostin was the price to get rid of Yamamoto, so be it.

 

[DaGap]

Especially considering the opposing team had emptied their net. I don't know what kind of amnesia everyone suffers from here, but a 3 goal game with over 2 minutes left is definitely not over.

Its called reading the game.

Vegas routinely in the series gooned it up in the final few minutes when down.